St. Mary's Pigskin Football

SouthCountyMom

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GhostWriter said:
The president of Pigskin gets 98% praise and 2% complaints, the president of the US gets about 50 - 50 and he still is president. The pigskin president gives a lot of time to this football league and has done that for 30 years. One of the main reasons I'm not for the county is because independent organizations have been proven throughout little league sports (baseball, soccer, lacrosse, etc.) that they can provide a higher level experience then a government administered program. Everyone has the right to believe what they want.......
Where in the world do you come up with that %??? Give me a break!!! The President of the United States is voted upon the citizens. How is the president of Pigskin voted??? Let me guess the board.....Can you at least answer one thing??? Did Mr. Kemp step down??? after all I believe he did say that on the radio....
 

SouthCountyMom

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GhostWriter said:
There are also several kids that play with the pigskin league who come over from Calvert to play...... Pigskin will also be posting a full 2006 schedule before the season begins and I will get the fundraising information posted on the website. As far as the board, as soon as it's finialized it will be posted.
Why does it take the county and a new league to get involved, that your finally TRYING to get organized??? After all the league has been up and running for 30 years. If theres a board what do you need to make it finalized. Do you get sworn in or something??? What are you waiting for???
 

slotted

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slotted said:
Since someone mentioned the raffle. I was under the assumption that the raffle was supposed to be help on opening day. I have not seen this for the past 3 years that I have attended and still have no clue who has won any of them.

What gives?
ahem...
 

GhostWriter

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SouthCountyMom said:
Where in the world do you come up with that %??? Give me a break!!! The President of the United States is voted upon the citizens. How is the president of Pigskin voted??? Let me guess the board.....Can you at least answer one thing??? Did Mr. Kemp step down??? after all I believe he did say that on the radio....
That % is the facts, besides the few that complain about Don's ways, there are 10 times that that praise the man for all his hardwork and dedication, you are part of the few that have a problem with him.

Yes the president is voted on by the executive board, how else would the organization vote on a president?????? No Mr. Kemp has not stepped down, he stated that if the county thought he was the cause of every little problem that exists within the pigskin organization, he would step down. The county does not feel that way........
 

GhostWriter

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SouthCountyMom said:
Why does it take the county and a new league to get involved, that your finally TRYING to get organized??? After all the league has been up and running for 30 years. If theres a board what do you need to make it finalized. Do you get sworn in or something??? What are you waiting for???

That's not the reason way we are trying to get more organized, there are new members on the board that are pushing to get somethings changed and the affiliation with pop warner, that require certain things ie a full schedule. Just to clear the schedule thing up, there are two reasons why Don did not have a full schedule; One, each week he tried to match up teams to create a competitive game between two teams, so that the younger teams where not getting beat up and down the field every week. Two, is that there are a lot of parents that would rather set on the sideline and complain about the schedule instead of volunteering themselves as an official, so most of our officials were coaches from other teams.

Yes, you must get nominated and voted into the executive board. There are several board members in place, but there are also several vacant positions that have nominations but those individuals have not been voted on yet.
 

SouthCountyMom

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GhostWriter said:
That % is the facts, besides the few that complain about Don's ways, there are 10 times that that praise the man for all his hardwork and dedication, you are part of the few that have a problem with him.

Yes the president is voted on by the executive board, how else would the organization vote on a president?????? No Mr. Kemp has not stepped down, he stated that if the county thought he was the cause of every little problem that exists within the pigskin organization, he would step down. The county does not feel that way........
I never said he dosen't put in alot of dedication or hardwork...Have you ever seen in the South county papers or radio or forums anyone complaining about the other 2 tri counties (their presidents put in alot of dedication)????? My understanding is that the county does want him to be part ther thing....Why not??? I heard the moey thing and on your site I see parks & recs clarified it.The weight and age thing and on your site the Parks & recs clarified that too.. So why not???? Is it control??? Is it his business???? Since he was voted in again this season, the big question.... by who??? Who's on the board???
 

smilin

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slotted said:
Since someone mentioned the raffle. I was under the assumption that the raffle was supposed to be help on opening day. I have not seen this for the past 3 years that I have attended and still have no clue who has won any of them.

What gives?

Who knows? It's been asked before, but still unanswered.
 

smilin

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Message from Mr. Rollins Parks & Rec

Just found this explanation on the Pigskin football site. This will clear up a lot of misconceptions being thrown around:

"As the County's Director of Recreation and Parks I wanted to clarify a few points in the "County Government wants to take over football program" article. First, the County Commissiners have not made a decison on this. The Board has taken R&P's proposal under advisement and plans to make a decision about this in the near future.

Second, the proposal for R&P to run the County football program will not cost taxpayers $300,000 as indicated in the article. R&P's proposal to the Commissioners suggested that it may be necessary to provide financial assistance (i.e loans) to three or more community youth football organizations or clubs that would be established.

These volunteer run clubs would be the backbone of the new program as they would do the necessary work to establish and enter teams into the League which would be run by R&P. The clubs would pay a franchise fee for each team entered into the League to pay for referees and other League expenses. This organizational model is used successfully in Charles and Calvert Counties for youth football.

In a worse case scenario, $200,000 in start up money may have to be available for loans to these clubs to enable them to purchase equipment and get established. This money would be expected to be repaid to the County over a couple of years after the clubs held registration and did fundraising.

A separate recommendation was made to the Comissioners about a youth sports iniative which would require youth league administrator's and coaches to have background checks and be trained through a national program. This initiative would be administered by R&P and involve all youth sports leagues who want to use County facilities. A new R&P staff person would be needed to work with sports leagues to implement and manage this program. Only about 25% of this new person's time would go towards running the youth football program. The new staff position would cost about $55,000 per year.

Finally, R&P proposed that the County provide $25,000 in tax funds for scholarships for all youth sports leagues. This would enable Leagues to accomodate low and moderate income families who have financial hardships. The $25,000 would provide financial support to all leagues for individuals unable to pay the registration fee.

The article also said "the plan has weight and age limits which are very unsafe for our kids and the registration costs will double from what you paid last year..." The R&P proposal did not address weight and age divisions; that is something that would be worked out with input from all of the youth football clubs if the new league is established. Nor did the proposal suggest what the registration fees would be. In reality, each community football club would determine what its participant registration fee would be, not R&P.

R&P and the County Commissioners are interested in hearing from League participants about this and we encourage you to do so.

Phil Rollins, Director
St. Mary's County Recreation, Parks
and Community Services
301-475-4200 x1811
phil.rollins@co.saint-marys.md.us "
 

GhostWriter

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SouthCountyMom said:
I never said he dosen't put in alot of dedication or hardwork...Have you ever seen in the South county papers or radio or forums anyone complaining about the other 2 tri counties (their presidents put in alot of dedication)????? My understanding is that the county does want him to be part ther thing....Why not??? I heard the moey thing and on your site I see parks & recs clarified it.The weight and age thing and on your site the Parks & recs clarified that too.. So why not???? Is it control??? Is it his business???? Since he was voted in again this season, the big question.... by who??? Who's on the board???

I'm sure there are complaints about the other county organizations, I don't care about those organization, I care about the st mary's county organization. First off the media sells papers that has bad publicity, I was part of the board that sat in on the incident with the broncos coach at the Leonard town drill hall and the paper stated that the parents of this team were not allowed in the meeting, that is completely false, just like most of the articles I've read in the paper. The truth was that no parents from that team were suppose to be in that meeting, just the coach and a representitive on his behalf and a few officials from that game. We let around 7 parents into the room after they requested it, this was not an open forum nor was there a lot of room in the meeting room we had. So the papers, radio, etc. they are based on negative things and will always create this negative imagine to sell papers. Yes the county would like for pigskin to join their organization, so that they don't have to spend the money to buy equipment for the proposed three organization setup. The county paints this wonderful picture to everyone, but I grow up in a county run organization and my father was commissioner of that organzation for several years, I know this for a fact if the county gets involved the football program in this county will decline, if you don't like it now just wait and see what you get if this gets approved. Once things are running the county will care less about these organizations.

Parks and Rec did not clarify anything I said $300,000 they said 200,000 + 55,000 + 25,000 = 280,000, how is that clarified. The so called loans are supposed to be paid back, that's only if that organization succeeds, if the organization fails or does not raise enough money via fundraisers, higher registration costs, etc. then the money never gets paid back. The Ospreys left thousands of dollars of debt for equipment loans. If you read the post how can you say it was clarified, Chris and South County have more clarification with his organization then the county has with this proposal, he never clarified the weight and age limits, matter of fact for the 330,000 he proposes there are no plans what so ever, maybe this maybe that......

There are several reasons why not???? I'm not going to re-type them, you've read them in other posts I've put on these boards. No it's not control, when encourage south county to start a new league. It's far from his business, he puts in a lot of his own money to support this league. I stated he did not step down, he has also not been voted as the president for the 2006 football season.

You state you support the county and south county football, I hope that you asked as many questions to these organizations you support as the one you are asking that you don't support. I'm not sure if you are trying to interogate me or if you are trying to decide what organization is best for you and your family for the future of football???????
 
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GhostWriter

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smilin said:
Who knows? It's been asked before, but still unanswered.

I just answered that and also explained the unclear clarification you and SouthCountyMom are calling clarification, when you commit to something; like signing a contract with someone, you want details about what the plan is, right?????? The county does not have a detailed plan, like I said Chris has more detail about his plan than the county has about what they are doing........ I much more involved in this and have a great knowledge of what's going on behind this everything will be great scenario the county gives.
 

GhostWriter

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smilin said:
Just found this explanation on the Pigskin football site. This will clear up a lot of misconceptions being thrown around:

"As the County's Director of Recreation and Parks I wanted to clarify a few points in the "County Government wants to take over football program" article. First, the County Commissiners have not made a decison on this. The Board has taken R&P's proposal under advisement and plans to make a decision about this in the near future.

Second, the proposal for R&P to run the County football program will not cost taxpayers $300,000 as indicated in the article. R&P's proposal to the Commissioners suggested that it may be necessary to provide financial assistance (i.e loans) to three or more community youth football organizations or clubs that would be established.

These volunteer run clubs would be the backbone of the new program as they would do the necessary work to establish and enter teams into the League which would be run by R&P. The clubs would pay a franchise fee for each team entered into the League to pay for referees and other League expenses. This organizational model is used successfully in Charles and Calvert Counties for youth football.

In a worse case scenario, $200,000 in start up money may have to be available for loans to these clubs to enable them to purchase equipment and get established. This money would be expected to be repaid to the County over a couple of years after the clubs held registration and did fundraising.

A separate recommendation was made to the Comissioners about a youth sports iniative which would require youth league administrator's and coaches to have background checks and be trained through a national program. This initiative would be administered by R&P and involve all youth sports leagues who want to use County facilities. A new R&P staff person would be needed to work with sports leagues to implement and manage this program. Only about 25% of this new person's time would go towards running the youth football program. The new staff position would cost about $55,000 per year.

Finally, R&P proposed that the County provide $25,000 in tax funds for scholarships for all youth sports leagues. This would enable Leagues to accomodate low and moderate income families who have financial hardships. The $25,000 would provide financial support to all leagues for individuals unable to pay the registration fee.

The article also said "the plan has weight and age limits which are very unsafe for our kids and the registration costs will double from what you paid last year..." The R&P proposal did not address weight and age divisions; that is something that would be worked out with input from all of the youth football clubs if the new league is established. Nor did the proposal suggest what the registration fees would be. In reality, each community football club would determine what its participant registration fee would be, not R&P.

R&P and the County Commissioners are interested in hearing from League participants about this and we encourage you to do so.

Phil Rollins, Director
St. Mary's County Recreation, Parks
and Community Services
301-475-4200 x1811
phil.rollins@co.saint-marys.md.us "


This is what is takes to run a football program; "Only about 25% of this new person's time would go towards running the youth football program. The new staff position would cost about $55,000 per year." You mean you agree with this type of proposal only 25% of this position will be dedicated to running this 3 league football program that is crazy, Let everyone hear me say this again, the quality of the football program in this county will decline quickly with a government paid employee at $55,000 a yr using only 25% of their time towards the football program. Independent organizations have several unpaid volunteers dedicating more than 25% of their time to make an successful program work.

Please people think about this before you jump on the counties bandwagon. If you support the new league support them, they county taking over is not the answer to these problems you have.
 

smilin

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St. Marys North vs. South All County Football title!

GhostWriter said:
This is what is takes to run a football program; "Only about 25% of this new person's time would go towards running the youth football program. The new staff position would cost about $55,000 per year." You mean you agree with this type of proposal only 25% of this position will be dedicated to running this 3 league football program that is crazy, Let everyone hear me say this again, the quality of the football program in this county will decline quickly with a government paid employee at $55,000 a yr using only 25% of their time towards the football program. Independent organizations have several unpaid volunteers dedicating more than 25% of their time to make an successful program work.

Please people think about this before you jump on the counties bandwagon. If you support the new league support them, they county taking over is not the answer to these problems you have.

The football season runs from August through November, I'm sure during that time period the administrator will be spending more than 25% of his time on football. After the season is over the cleaning, organising and preparation for the next year will be carried on by the league volunteers. This isn't new, it's been done succesfuly for years in other counties.
What Mr. Rollins is proposing to do is: take over the job of managing and organising the leagues - not run them. Volunteers will still run each league. This is a great opportunity for everyone to go out and enjoy football without all the unanswered whining and complaining that is happening now. At least they will have somebody to go to.

Just think of the possibilities: A North Vs South County title! :elaine:

This position is not only for the football leagues but also for basketball, lacrosse, the swimming program and all the other sports programs Parks & Rec works on.
$55K sounds like a bargain when you think of what they will have to put up with.
 

vindog

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smilin said:
The football season runs from August through November, I'm sure during that time period the administrator will be spending more than 25% of his time on football. After the season is over the cleaning, organising and preparation for the next year will be carried on by the league volunteers. This isn't new, it's been done succesfuly for years in other counties.
What Mr. Rollins is proposing to do is: take over the job of managing and organising the leagues - not run them. Volunteers will still run each league. This is a great opportunity for everyone to go out and enjoy football without all the unanswered whining and complaining that is happening now. At least they will have somebody to go to.

Just think of the possibilities: A North Vs South County title! :elaine:

This position is not only for the football leagues but also for basketball, lacrosse, the swimming program and all the other sports programs Parks & Rec works on.
$55K sounds like a bargain when you think of what they will have to put up with.


Guys this is foolish - here I have about 50,000 things to do in preparation of going to Iraq, and I find myself explaining things that should be common sense to fools!!!

Phil Rollins at our meeting with the county commissioners stated that he gets all sorts of emails and phone calls about football, so he feels the county can run things better. His version - "Loan" (i.e. giveaway until they default) money to a club, so that the club can buy equipment and get started up. What will they do with that? Where will they store and maintain equipment? Who will be responsible for maintenance? Why the club of course - NOT THE COUNTY. The county wants none of the responsibility or work to maintain, just the credit. They want to "bless" the club as being allowed to play in St. Mary's County, post a schedule, obtain refs, and then walk away.

Now keep this in mind - If you reside in the south, you will not only be paying a fee to the club which you "enroll" with, but you will have to TRUST that the club's president are savvy enough and trained enough to properly fit your kids with their equipment - keep in mind that experience resides in Pigskin now!

Secondly, if you have a budding team with a really good player, get ready to have your next season smashed to bits, as that player is "recruited" by another club. Some have claimed that regional boundaries would be applied, but comeon - we have all heard stories in Pigskin of getting kids to register late, or at a different location on a coaches request. The trustworthiness of the club is only dependant upon it's leaders. With Pigskin, the executive board addresses every one of these issues, tracks kids from team to team, and makes it at least Difficult to recruit players.

Finally, if you are in the south, let's face it - demographics of the county (acknowledged by the county commissioners by the way) show that the south is more economically depressed than other areas. Suppose your club is struggling, but barely making ends meet. Now compare your club to one from up north where they even could go out and get corporate sponsors, or better yet have one or two backers to the club. Who do you think will have the extra $$$ to get the best equipment? Who do you think will have the better uniforms? If you think there is a north / south rivalry now, just wait with club sports!!!

MY bottom line is the same as ever - when the county makes a decision to tell an organization that they are not allowed to conduct business freely and takes actions that will mortally kill an organization's means of operation, it requires due process, because it is a civil rights issue. By due process, we are NOT talking about a public county commissioner's meeting - we are talking legal action. If you don't think that is necessary, fine but stand by for injunctions, and a ton of legal action before pigskin get's shut down.
 

SouthCountyMom

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vindog said:
Guys this is foolish - here I have about 50,000 things to do in preparation of going to Iraq, and I find myself explaining things that should be common sense to fools!!!

Phil Rollins at our meeting with the county commissioners stated that he gets all sorts of emails and phone calls about football, so he feels the county can run things better. His version - "Loan" (i.e. giveaway until they default) money to a club, so that the club can buy equipment and get started up. What will they do with that? Where will they store and maintain equipment? Who will be responsible for maintenance? Why the club of course - NOT THE COUNTY. The county wants none of the responsibility or work to maintain, just the credit. They want to "bless" the club as being allowed to play in St. Mary's County, post a schedule, obtain refs, and then walk away.

Now keep this in mind - If you reside in the south, you will not only be paying a fee to the club which you "enroll" with, but you will have to TRUST that the club's president are savvy enough and trained enough to properly fit your kids with their equipment - keep in mind that experience resides in Pigskin now!

Secondly, if you have a budding team with a really good player, get ready to have your next season smashed to bits, as that player is "recruited" by another club. Some have claimed that regional boundaries would be applied, but comeon - we have all heard stories in Pigskin of getting kids to register late, or at a different location on a coaches request. The trustworthiness of the club is only dependant upon it's leaders. With Pigskin, the executive board addresses every one of these issues, tracks kids from team to team, and makes it at least Difficult to recruit players.

Finally, if you are in the south, let's face it - demographics of the county (acknowledged by the county commissioners by the way) show that the south is more economically depressed than other areas. Suppose your club is struggling, but barely making ends meet. Now compare your club to one from up north where they even could go out and get corporate sponsors, or better yet have one or two backers to the club. Who do you think will have the extra $$$ to get the best equipment? Who do you think will have the better uniforms? If you think there is a north / south rivalry now, just wait with club sports!!!

MY bottom line is the same as ever - when the county makes a decision to tell an organization that they are not allowed to conduct business freely and takes actions that will mortally kill an organization's means of operation, it requires due process, because it is a civil rights issue. By due process, we are NOT talking about a public county commissioner's meeting - we are talking legal action. If you don't think that is necessary, fine but stand by for injunctions, and a ton of legal action before pigskin get's shut down.
Look at the othe 2 counties in the tri county area. IT'S WORKING!!
Parks & Rec are involed. Do you think that Mr. Kemp is the only one that is capable of training to fit these kids??? I'm sure the some people will be more than willing to get trained.

Calvert Has the $ in the North and not as much in the South. and they seem to be doing just fine.

There has not been anything posted on the forum or in the papers about the other 2 counties ran by Parks & Rec.

You keep bringing up Iraq. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. But, I hope your not calling me a fool.
 

smilin

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SouthCountyMom said:
Look at the othe 2 counties in the tri county area. IT'S WORKING!!
Parks & Rec are involed. Do you think that Mr. Kemp is the only one that is capable of training to fit these kids??? I'm sure the some people will be more than willing to get trained.

Calvert Has the $ in the North and not as much in the South. and they seem to be doing just fine.

There has not been anything posted on the forum or in the papers about the other 2 counties ran by Parks & Rec.

You keep bringing up Iraq. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. But, I hope your not calling me a fool.



I guess we will see! :coffee:
 

smilin

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Parks & Rec proposal

Here is a copy of the Parks & Rec proposal to do something about youth football in St. Marys.

ST. MARY’S YOUTH FOOTBALL PROPOSAL



Mr. Rollins briefed the Board on staff’s proposal for St. Mary’s County Youth Football. This proposal is being brought forward in part as a result of an incident that happened at Fifth District Park last November during a football game. Under this proposal, RP&CS would serve as the league administrator for the new program. Community based youth football organizations would be established in the northern, central, and southern areas of the County. The primary purpose of these organizations would be to establish football and cheerleading teams in various age and weight divisions; fundraise to support their organizations; register youth in their areas for these teams; and purchase, maintain and store team equipment.



These community organizations would enter teams into a County-wide league and the league would be administered by the RP&CS Department. The Department would establish league age and weight divisions (to be determined) and supervise weigh-ins; establish league rules and regulations; assign practice facilities; prepare game schedules; coordinate the scheduling of officials; supervise game fields; and provide other league administration. Football organizations would pay an annual "franchise fee" to the Department for each team entered into the league. This fee would be used to pay for referees, site supervisors and other league expenses. A committee or board would be established to work with the Department and provide input on establishing rules and regulations, establish age and weight categories, etc. Staff thinks this will take the load off a few people and spread the responsibility more equitably.



This proposal for youth football league administration is modeled after successful programs in Charles and Calvert Counties. Both Counties have managed youth football in this way for many years (Mr. Rollins was involved in establishing this model in Charles County more than 25 years ago). There is another youth football organization that wishes to get started in the County; but, staff feels that having two separate leagues competing for players and limited facilities will present additional problems. The Southern County Youth Football group has agreed to support the County proposal and join the St. Mary’s Youth Football league if plans for implementation more forward.



Staff has met with Charles and Calvert County park officials and is prepared to move forward with implementing this for the fall 2006 season. Members of the Pigskin program and the new Southern League would be invited to work with the County to develop the new league. The hope is that many of these current league officials and coaches will become the community youth football organizations. However, due to the nature of this sport, if some members of these leagues choose not to participate in the proposed program, the Department does not recommend that public fields be made available to them (this is the way Calvert and Charles Counties handle this).



There will be County costs associated with the new program. The Department will need an additional FTE position in FY07 to help handle the football league administration (and to help manage the Raising Community Standards Initiative with other youth sports leagues). Staff has also proposed that $25,000 in County funds be made available annually to fund a scholarship program for low and moderate income families who are unable to pay the full fee for participating in football or other youth sports programs. Also, if the existing Pigskin league/teams choose not to participate in the new football league, the County may have to provide start up loans to the community youth football organizations to purchase football equipment. Staff feels that this proposal, along with the Raising Community Standards in Youth Initiative, will provide accountability and significantly improve the youth sports environment.



Robert Richardson asked if staff would be going out to communities to explain the new program. Mr. Rollins stated that information will be provided to citizens through the media and then meetings would be held in different geographic areas of the County to inform citizens about the plan and to solicit information from them.



Patrick Dugan stated that he had a daughter in the Pigskin Cheerleading program and was dissatisfied. He decided not to stay in the league, but didn’t think of turning to the County to solve the problem. Mr. Harper stated that since the current league is using County facilities the public perception is the County should be able to provide some assistance when problems arise.



Dorothy Gass stated that her child played in the Pigskin Football League for several years. As a parent, she didn’t think she could speak up when she had complaints for fear of future ramifications.



Sam Brown expressed support for staff’s proposal. He felt the same group of dedicated parents would be part of the operations of the new league and be part of the committee helping to set the rules and regulations.



Robert Harper motioned, seconded by Robert Richardson, to endorse the Recreation, Parks and Community Services proposal for the St. Mary’s County Youth Football League and Cheerleading to include the proposal to hire one full-time staff person in FY07, for $25,000 in funding for the youth sports scholarship for low to moderate income families, and be prepared to underwrite the start-up expenses of the league if needed with the understanding the program would become self-supporting. Motion carried with all in favor.



Staff plans to present the proposal to the BOCC on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 for consideration; Board members are encouraged to attend.

:popcorn:
 

GhostWriter

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BOCC did not vote, county will not take over youth football

smilin said:
Here is a copy of the Parks & Rec proposal to do something about youth football in St. Marys.

ST. MARY’S YOUTH FOOTBALL PROPOSAL



Mr. Rollins briefed the Board on staff’s proposal for St. Mary’s County Youth Football. This proposal is being brought forward in part as a result of an incident that happened at Fifth District Park last November during a football game. Under this proposal, RP&CS would serve as the league administrator for the new program. Community based youth football organizations would be established in the northern, central, and southern areas of the County. The primary purpose of these organizations would be to establish football and cheerleading teams in various age and weight divisions; fundraise to support their organizations; register youth in their areas for these teams; and purchase, maintain and store team equipment.



These community organizations would enter teams into a County-wide league and the league would be administered by the RP&CS Department. The Department would establish league age and weight divisions (to be determined) and supervise weigh-ins; establish league rules and regulations; assign practice facilities; prepare game schedules; coordinate the scheduling of officials; supervise game fields; and provide other league administration. Football organizations would pay an annual "franchise fee" to the Department for each team entered into the league. This fee would be used to pay for referees, site supervisors and other league expenses. A committee or board would be established to work with the Department and provide input on establishing rules and regulations, establish age and weight categories, etc. Staff thinks this will take the load off a few people and spread the responsibility more equitably.



This proposal for youth football league administration is modeled after successful programs in Charles and Calvert Counties. Both Counties have managed youth football in this way for many years (Mr. Rollins was involved in establishing this model in Charles County more than 25 years ago). There is another youth football organization that wishes to get started in the County; but, staff feels that having two separate leagues competing for players and limited facilities will present additional problems. The Southern County Youth Football group has agreed to support the County proposal and join the St. Mary’s Youth Football league if plans for implementation more forward.



Staff has met with Charles and Calvert County park officials and is prepared to move forward with implementing this for the fall 2006 season. Members of the Pigskin program and the new Southern League would be invited to work with the County to develop the new league. The hope is that many of these current league officials and coaches will become the community youth football organizations. However, due to the nature of this sport, if some members of these leagues choose not to participate in the proposed program, the Department does not recommend that public fields be made available to them (this is the way Calvert and Charles Counties handle this).



There will be County costs associated with the new program. The Department will need an additional FTE position in FY07 to help handle the football league administration (and to help manage the Raising Community Standards Initiative with other youth sports leagues). Staff has also proposed that $25,000 in County funds be made available annually to fund a scholarship program for low and moderate income families who are unable to pay the full fee for participating in football or other youth sports programs. Also, if the existing Pigskin league/teams choose not to participate in the new football league, the County may have to provide start up loans to the community youth football organizations to purchase football equipment. Staff feels that this proposal, along with the Raising Community Standards in Youth Initiative, will provide accountability and significantly improve the youth sports environment.



Robert Richardson asked if staff would be going out to communities to explain the new program. Mr. Rollins stated that information will be provided to citizens through the media and then meetings would be held in different geographic areas of the County to inform citizens about the plan and to solicit information from them.



Patrick Dugan stated that he had a daughter in the Pigskin Cheerleading program and was dissatisfied. He decided not to stay in the league, but didn’t think of turning to the County to solve the problem. Mr. Harper stated that since the current league is using County facilities the public perception is the County should be able to provide some assistance when problems arise.



Dorothy Gass stated that her child played in the Pigskin Football League for several years. As a parent, she didn’t think she could speak up when she had complaints for fear of future ramifications.



Sam Brown expressed support for staff’s proposal. He felt the same group of dedicated parents would be part of the operations of the new league and be part of the committee helping to set the rules and regulations.



Robert Harper motioned, seconded by Robert Richardson, to endorse the Recreation, Parks and Community Services proposal for the St. Mary’s County Youth Football League and Cheerleading to include the proposal to hire one full-time staff person in FY07, for $25,000 in funding for the youth sports scholarship for low to moderate income families, and be prepared to underwrite the start-up expenses of the league if needed with the understanding the program would become self-supporting. Motion carried with all in favor.



Staff plans to present the proposal to the BOCC on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 for consideration; Board members are encouraged to attend.

:popcorn:

Thanks for the repeat on everything and also for leaving out the negatives that the county would have brought to youth football. Regardless of all that, the BOCC decided to leave football in St Mary's county as is for this coming season. In politics the majority wins 9 times out of 10, smilin good luck with South County.......
 

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The majority has spoken

GhostWriter said:
Thanks for the repeat on everything and also for leaving out the negatives that the county would have brought to youth football. Regardless of all that, the BOCC decided to leave football in St Mary's county as is for this coming season. In politics the majority wins 9 times out of 10, smilin good luck with South County.......


Indeed the majority has spoken. Among some of the things asked for and received:
1) A choice of leagues.
2) A list of board members to take responsibility for the league.
3) A schedule (maybe) in advance
4) Pigskin has a new respectability with it's affiliation with the nationally known Pop Warner Little Scholars Football organization (Do they require public disclosure of board members and a schedule in advance to join?).
I'm sure some of the other questions will be cleared up when the board convenes.

More importantly: change has happened. Problems have been brought out in the open and addressed.

I just hope there are enough slots left in South County for my kids to play.
 
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