Talladega Snore Fest

limblips

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I think you need the plates to control the speed but after that just let the guys(girls too) race. Let them run whatever gear, trans, deck height whatever. The desire to be the best has always been what drives racing, they use the BS about making it affordable for single car teams and small operations to compete but now they have created a 190 mph log jam with regulations. Limit the horse power and let the rest be free game to whomever can make it happen and everyone else will catch up, like it was for 45 years or so.

The speed has become the issue, slow the cars down by taking away downforce. The plates just keep the horsepower and acceleration down resulting in a bunch and the inevitable "Big One" at the end. Another way to slow the cars is to make them conform 100% to the template of the production car. I am all for the safety improvements but if Ford/Chevy/Dodge needs to make their car more aero slick to win, then let them design it, not NASCAR. The manufacturers cup is a joke, they are all the same! I have so many other issues.................
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
yes I saw that. Looked weird watching them thru the corners with gaps between the cars.

It's a catch 22, do away with the plates and risk death in 240 mph crashes or keep it the way it is and risk death in 195 mph crashes wiping out the field.

I think with the safety features of these cars, the plate can go. At least try it for a year.

The tracks are the problem. They need to tear down the banking.

I don't know how many more people need to die at these two tracks for NASCAR to get the picture.:smack:
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
The speed has become the issue, slow the cars down by taking away downforce. The plates just keep the horsepower and acceleration down resulting in a bunch and the inevitable "Big One" at the end. Another way to slow the cars is to make them conform 100% to the template of the production car. I am all for the safety improvements but if Ford/Chevy/Dodge needs to make their car more aero slick to win, then let them design it, not NASCAR. The manufacturers cup is a joke, they are all the same! I have so many other issues.................
How can anybody think it's a good idea for the National STOCK CAR racing association to not race stock cars?

lose the V8s.
smaller engines will mean slower speeds (for a while).
require them to run on pump gas.
require manufactures to build at least 500 units to qualify as stock

It used to be "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday"
That went away when the race cars bore no resemblance to what was in the showroom (except for a name sticker)
 

LusbyMom

You're a LOON :)
My brother was there this weekend.... can't wait for him to come home tomorrow :lol:

They seem to be having a great time... but they are camping at the track and it's probably the party more than then the race that they are enjoying.
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
Maybe they're all Redskins fans?:shrug:

The season is WAAAYYYY too long and restrictor plate races suck.

I'll tell you what, that was a TERRIBLE race. NASCAR owes the fans an apology.

While at it, they need to go tear the banking down so they don't need the restrictor plates.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
I'll tell you what, that was a TERRIBLE race. NASCAR owes the fans an apology.
Nobody forced you to watch :shrug:
While at it, they need to go tear the banking down so they don't need the restrictor plates.

What does track banking have to do with restrictor plates :lol:
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
What does track banking have to do with restrictor plates :lol:

More banking = more speed.

If they flatten the track out in the corners, the drivers would have to slow down to enter the turns instead of running wide open throttle the entire race. That eliminates the need for a restrictor plate. Straightaway speeds can still be cut using a tapered spacer (which is used in the Truck Series and Nationwide Series) which doesn't slow the throttle response as much as a restrictor plate.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Nothing in my Metrocast contract that says I have to explain my TV viewing habits with Internet dopes like you.:killingme
No one asked you to. I simply asked you to explain a post, not your viewing habits moron.

BTW, did I miss the big victory thread where you won your tag case in court?? :killingme
 

CrashTest

Well-Known Member
No one asked you to. I simply asked you to explain a post, not your viewing habits moron.

BTW, did I miss the big victory thread where you won your tag case in court?? :killingme

Can't be a wet nursemaid for everything you miss and can't figure out on your own. Now go finish your Lucky Charms little man and stop jacking people's threads.

:killingme
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Can't be a wet nursemaid for everything you miss and can't figure out on your own. Now go finish your Lucky Charms little man and stop jacking people's threads.

:killingme
Can't miss something that doesn't exist. :coffee: So you lost time from work AND paid the fine. Did they bust ya for court costs too? :killingme

I'l a corn pops man myself. :popcorn:
 

JoeMac

New Member
How can anybody think it's a good idea for the National STOCK CAR racing association to not race stock cars?

lose the V8s.
smaller engines will mean slower speeds (for a while).
require them to run on pump gas.
require manufactures to build at least 500 units to qualify as stock

It used to be "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday"
That went away when the race cars bore no resemblance to what was in the showroom (except for a name sticker)

I'm not disagreeing about the stock car stuff, just the engine and fuel comments. These changes won't solve anything unless NASCAR implements more rules on top of them. 4 cylinders and pump gas can make monster hp built the right way. It isn't about the cylinders or gas, it is about airflow.

As far as racing a stock car, I prefer watching a v8 hotrod. If it isn't a "stock car" anymore, so be it I still enjoy the sport.

Yesterdays race was an abomination, NASCAR should be ashamed of themselves and give all the race goers an extra ticket to the venue of their choice. As I see it they can either limit horse power or limit down force to decrease speeds, as I do not see a way to keep the cars on the track at those speeds. They implemented roof flaps and a bunch of other stuff that is not working at those speeds.
 

struggler44

A Salute to all on Watch
Give them all 250 HP and turn 'em loose. So what if one team wins more than the others,sooner or later everyone will catch up who can catch up and if they can't, they can come over my house and what it on tv with me and bich because I'm flipping between the game and the race. TOO MANY PERFORMANCE RULES.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
I'm not disagreeing about the stock car stuff, just the engine and fuel comments. These changes won't solve anything unless NASCAR implements more rules on top of them. 4 cylinders and pump gas can make monster hp built the right way. It isn't about the cylinders or gas, it is about airflow.

As far as racing a stock car, I prefer watching a v8 hotrod. If it isn't a "stock car" anymore, so be it I still enjoy the sport.

Yesterdays race was an abomination, NASCAR should be ashamed of themselves and give all the race goers an extra ticket to the venue of their choice. As I see it they can either limit horse power or limit down force to decrease speeds, as I do not see a way to keep the cars on the track at those speeds. They implemented roof flaps and a bunch of other stuff that is not working at those speeds.

So ... keep V8s but choke them, stop development of technology that could filter down and improve your daily driver, don't race anything close to what a consumer can buy but go ahead and call it "stock car" racing.
Sounds like a plan :ohwell:
 
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