Tesla Hate

[GURPS]

Not sure I like that reasoning, it could be argued the rednecks that did stuff to Teslas, before when Musk was considered to be a liberal, also the same motivations.

I'm going to disagree, some redneck keying as Tesla is NOT trying influence gov change

 

[PeoplesElbow]

And that's where the content of the vandalism comes in. "Eff you" or even "Elon sucks" is one thing. A Nazi symbol? That's where the threat aspect comes in. The left has spent eight years now telling us they are ready to fight Nazis. And proclaiming that anything you do to a Nazi is justified. Now, would that dissuade me, or maybe you? Most likely not. But mothers and fathers who haul kids around, or even just themselves? When making a choice to buy, knowing that you might be singled out, that's a factor. Keeping in mind the definition of terrorism.

Terrorism involves the use or threat of violence to create fear and coerce or intimidate a government or civilian population in order to achieve political, religious, or ideological goals.

These people are for sure trying to instill fear and coerce people away from a product for the sole purpose of making political change. Because they know that hurting Tesla sales and stock prices are a lever to use against Musk.

Not believing in hate crime laws and believing vandalism was terrorism would be somewhat hypocritical in my eyes. Now the instant they torch or smash or physically confront I'd agree with that. You said almost none of these incidents were when the owners were around.

 

[GURPS]

Musk started souring on Dems back in 2021 shortly after Biden took office. It probably began with being snubbed when he wasn't invited to the WH summit on the future of EVs, even though at the time Tesla had over 70% of the market. They moved farther apart when Biden disregarded/ignored Musk's all-civilian space flight accomplishment. And of course he was against the Biden blind loyalty stance with labor unions. By 2022 Musk was calling out the Dems as "the party of division and hate". And what finally pushed Musk to an outright endorsement of Trump was the Butler, PA assassination attempt.

I'd say when he was attacked for buying Twitter and firing 50% of the staff, and allowed Nazi's a platform on Twitter

 

[GURPS]

I get it because McCain's nomination did it for me. When the GOP decided he was their guy I realized I was a RINO and fixed that. So if you want to leave the Republican Party because Elon Musk is trying to eliminate government waste and fraud, that is certainly your right.

Yeah when Republicans started shifting left basically running Dem Lite ... where is the Fiscal Conservatism, the small Gov.

 

[Kinnakeet]

Blame the Lincoln Project






Stuart Stevens, a Lincoln Project advisor, suggested people should protest in Tesla showrooms. Multiple Tesla dealerships and Teslas have recently been targets of vandalism and arson.

Did Stuart Stevens incite people to do crimes and help them find Tesla locations to target?



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Stew needs to be Protested himself

 

[vraiblonde]

Stew needs to be Protested himself

He needs to be locked up in a prison with the rest of the pedophiles.

 

[GURPS]

He needs to be locked up in a prison with the rest of the pedophiles.

Democrats sure love their pedo's

 

[vraiblonde]

Democrats sure love their pedo's

Because they love to control and subjugate.

 

[glhs837]

Not believing in hate crime laws and believing vandalism was terrorism would be somewhat hypocritical in my eyes. Now the instant they torch or smash or physically confront I'd agree with that. You said almost none of these incidents were when the owners were around.

Hate crimes don't have the end goal of changing govt policy. The fear and intimidation are the same, the end goal is not. These acts are not meant for the individual, but for the reputation of the brand to damage Musk and reduce his effectiveness as the head of a govt agency.

In these bozos opinions the only reason Musk has any power is his wealth so if you reduce that, you reduce his govt power. They want Musk gone, and they view killing the brand of Tesla through fear and intimidation as the best way to do it.

 

[phreddyp]

Hate crimes don't have the end goal of changing govt policy. The fear and intimidation are the same, the end goal is not. These acts are not meant for the individual, but for the reputation of the brand to damage Musk and reduce his effectiveness as the head of a govt agency.

In these bozos opinions the only reason Musk has any power is his wealth so if you reduce that, you reduce his govt power. They want Musk gone, and they view killing the brand of Tesla through fear and intimidation as the best way to do it.

Good luck with that.

 

[glhs837]

Good luck with that.

Like Hamas, they simply cannot see any other way.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Hate crimes don't have the end goal of changing govt policy. The fear and intimidation are the same, the end goal is not. These acts are not meant for the individual, but for the reputation of the brand to damage Musk and reduce his effectiveness as the head of a govt agency.

In these bozos opinions the only reason Musk has any power is his wealth so if you reduce that, you reduce his govt power. They want Musk gone, and they view killing the brand of Tesla through fear and intimidation as the best way to do it.

Unfortunately your definition of domestic terrorism paints the Jan 6 protesters and possibly the PTA parents take over also as domestic terrorists. IMHO it's just regular ole crime, I do believe in being tough on crime.

 

[glhs837]

Unfortunately your definition of domestic terrorism paints the Jan 6 protesters and possibly the PTA parents take over also as domestic terrorists. IMHO it's just regular ole crime, I do believe in being tough on crime.

I don't know about the PTA parents. Threat level there seems pretty low. And Jan 6, that case can be made for some, I think. The old lady who wandered around the rotunda? Maybe not. Those who assaulted cops, no matter the damage? Those who destroyed our property gaining access and inside? Yeah, you could make that case.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I don't know about the PTA parents. Threat level there seems pretty low. And Jan 6, that case can be made for some, I think. The old lady who wandered around the rotunda? Maybe not. Those who assaulted cops, no matter the damage? Those who destroyed our property gaining access and inside? Yeah, you could make that case.

My point is I don't like stretching the definition, we could end up like England where disagreeing with someone is considered an arrestable offense.
Terrorism should only be charged in cases of stuff blowing up, arson, chemical/biological attack, and physical harm such as the knife attacks in Europe.

 

[glhs837]

My point is I don't like stretching the definition, we could end up like England where disagreeing with someone is considered an arrestable offense.
Terrorism should only be charged in cases of stuff blowing up, arson, chemical/biological attack, and physical harm such as the knife attacks in Europe. But we have the arson multiple instances already. We have gunfire into buildings already.

So you already have multiple instances of arson. We already have multiple incidents of shooting into buildings. So far the attacks on people driving Tesla's have been restricted to property but when does that change? You say we could end up In a place where simply disagreeing with someone ends up with charges and I agree that would be a wrong place for us to go. Your right to express yourself and disagree with me ends at the tip of my nose and also to the extent of my property.

Nobody has the right to damage my property for the purpose of causing fear and intimidation We have people singling out a group for threatening action. Do you want to wait until it's too late and somebody gets injured or dead? They aren't inscribing these Nazi symbols because they don't like the individual driving the car. They're inscribing them to instill fear. Terrorizing all of the owners the owners of the cars to intimidate them into selling the cars and not buying new ones.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a driver hauled out of a car within the next month or two the way this is scaling. I know you think I'm reading too much into this and I'm telling you. I'm pretty sure the way this is going is that these folks are whipping themselves into a frenzy and they're not going to stop.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

So you already have multiple instances of arson. We already have multiple incidents of shooting into buildings. So far the attacks on people driving Tesla's have been restricted to property but when does that change? You say we could end up In a place where simply disagreeing with someone ends up with charges and I agree that would be a wrong place for us to go. Your right to express yourself and disagree with me ends at the tip of my nose and also to the extent of my property.

Nobody has the right to damage my property for the purpose of causing fear and intimidation We have people singling out a group for threatening action. Do you want to wait until it's too late and somebody gets injured or dead? They aren't inscribing these Nazi symbols because they don't like the individual driving the car. They're inscribing them to instill fear. Terrorizing all of the owners the owners of the cars to intimidate them into selling the cars and not buying new ones.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a driver hauled out of a car within the next month or two the way this is scaling. I know you think I'm reading too much into this and I'm telling you. I'm pretty sure the way this is going is that these folks are whipping themselves into a frenzy and they're not going to stop.

I've seen worse over a union/anti-union issues, doesn't mean it's terrorism.

 

[glhs837]

I've seen worse over a union/anti-union issues, doesn't mean it's terrorism.

That's business, not government.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

That's business, not government.

Keeping people from buying Teslas is business not government. I think you are injecting personal feelings into this.

 

[RoseRed]

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a driver hauled out of a car within the next month or two the way this is scaling. I know you think I'm reading too much into this and I'm telling you. I'm pretty sure the way this is going is that these folks are whipping themselves into a frenzy and they're not going to stop.

Remember Reginald Denny.

 

[PrchJrkr]

Remember Reginald Denny.

Animals without one ounce of compassion or remorse that should have been put down without thinking twice.