The Child Support injustice.

[VoteJP]

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Do you know what a "real" dad is? It's the one who is there for the child all the time. The one who stays up nights when they are puking their guts up, the one that shows up to coach the kids team, the one that shows up to practices and games, the one who supports them, the one the child turns to when they are hurt or sad, the one they look up to. The one that listens to hours of band practice, the one that goes on field trips, the one that teaches them right from wrong. Their is so much more that a "real" dad does. A name on a birth certificate mean nothing if you don't do what a "real" dad does.

The Dad is NOT to fight the Mom.

So when the Mom is difficult then the Dad always backs off, or else the domestic disputes start.

It is not your place to tell the Dad how to do their job of being a father.

You say the truth will not hurt the child? So is it ok to tell a kid that their parent is a POS loser deadbeat?

That is your opinion, and it might be your honest belief, but it is not the truth.

The truth means we must keep our own feelings out of it.


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[Highlander]

The Dad is NOT to fight the Mom.

So when the Mom is difficult then the Dad always backs off, or else the domestic disputes start.

It is not your place to tell the Dad how to do their job of being a father.



That is your opinion, and it might be your honest belief, but it is not the truth.

The truth means we must keep our own feelings out of it.


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LOL! What the he!! are you trying to say cuSICK? Why can't you just STOP being a loser? Give up the forums and go get a job. You may actually be happier.

 

[bcp]

jpc telling people how to be parents would be equal to me telling a brain surgeon how to remove a tumor from the temperal lobe.

 

[hvp05]

the temperal lobe.

Psst, it's temporal lobe.

 

[Bay_Kat]

Psst, it's temporal lobe.

He's just proving that he, like JP(about anything), has no clue(about brain surgery). No worries.

 

[hvp05]

He's just proving that he, like JP(about anything), has no clue(about brain surgery).

Oh, I got it. That's what made it so funny... to me.

 

[bcp]

He's just proving that he, like JP(about anything), has no clue(about brain surgery). No worries.

Im going with this excuse

 

[VoteJP]

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I say it would be wise to recognize who here is offering advice to make people's lives better, while others are just jokers and pricks that do not care about the families being hurt.

No one else cares about the child's Dad being away or about the child being raised separated from their Dad but I do.

The State laws cares nothing about the families being ruined either, as the Child Support is just petty cash to shut-up and pacify the custodial.

It is a pay-off for a broken family.

The law trashes the separated parents and alienates their children and that is not because the custodial is the "good" parent or the "responsible" parent - no, it is the State's punishment for having the children.


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[bcp]

The law trashes the separated parents and alienates their children and that is not because the custodial is the "good" parent or the "responsible" parent - no, it is the State's punishment for having the children.


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The law does nothing of the sort unless the parent runs off and refuses to support his/her children.
You take this view because you are by your own admittance, that POS prick that abandoned your child by your own choice.

that is why nobody cares what you have to say. You are an idiot.

 

[VoteJP]

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The law does nothing of the sort unless the parent runs off and refuses to support his/her children.

That really is the same logic that all thieves mis-use when they steal.

Like a thief has a gun pointed and says; "Give your money of your life" and so it is not the thief's fault for shooting the person that does not pay the thief, per the thievery mentality.

The thieving Child Support is the same stealing mentality in that if parents just pay the thieves then they do not get robbed - ha, ha, ha ha ha....

You are a thief and that is why you think like a thief.

When I become Governor then I will put an end to the thievery.


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[hvp05]

the Child Support is just petty cash to shut-up and pacify the custodial.

It is a pay-off for a broken family.

I thought the state kept the money and the custodials never saw it...

"Give your money of your life"

The thieving Child Support is the same stealing mentality in that if parents just pay the thieves then they do not get robbed

This could be a very valid point! And we will believe you as soon as you prove the above to be true beyond a reasonable doubt. Link to some caseS (i.e., more than one) that illustrate where people have died as a direct result of paying or not paying their CS.

 

[VoteJP]

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I thought the state kept the money and the custodials never saw it...

Fortunately I like saying things over and over again, but you of all people must know better.

The State takes the Child Support loot ONLY ONLY only from the poorest of the poor families on welfare, but the richer custodial parents are given their Child Support even though they do not need it.

Richer parents get more Child Support while the poorest parents get their Child Support taken away and added to the State treasury.

A part of the reason for that is because the richer parents can hire a Lawyer and can make troubles for the State which the poorest of custodial parents can not do.

So the Child Support dumps on the poorest custodial parents as it also abuses the poorest of the separated parents because the Child Support is a corrupt and cowardly system to its core.

This could be a very valid point! And we will believe you as soon as you prove the above to be true beyond a reasonable doubt. Link to some caseS (i.e., more than one) that illustrate where people have died as a direct result of paying or not paying their CS.

There are reports of parents killing their children and killing their spouse and killing them selves and killing their ex - all because of the Child Support, but the killing was NOT the point as the point was of stealing.

Most thieves that hold a gun to a person saying; "Give your money or your life" will almost always get the cash, and I do not know of even one person that ever refused to find out if they would really be killed or not.

Stealing associated with physical threats is usually a very effective way of stealing money.

So all separated parents know the State's given threats that they must pay the thieving Child Support or else be robbed or be put into jail, and most parents just pay the thieves, and the ones in jail had no choice since they are dead-broke then they could not pay the thieves even if they wanted to.


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[bcp]

Fortunately I like saying things over and over again, but you of all people must know better.

The State takes the Child Support loot ONLY ONLY only from the poorest of the poor families on welfare, but the richer custodial parents are given their Child Support even though they do not need it.

Richer parents get more Child Support while the poorest parents get their Child Support taken away and added to the State treasury.

A part of the reason for that is because the richer parents can hire a Lawyer and can make troubles for the State which the poorest of custodial parents can not do.

So the Child Support dumps on the poorest custodial parents as it also abuses the poorest of the separated parents because the Child Support is a corrupt and cowardly system to its core.

you as always are wrong.
see, when some worthless POS runs off and refuses to support his child, the state steps in and gives assistance to the family left poor by the sorry SOB.
When they catch up, they take the money that the sorry SOB paid, and apply it toward the money that the state paid out in the first place.
Lets call it a loan from the state.

now, the state does not take the money from the "rich" (prononced responsible) parents because those parents are
1) paying the support
2) dont qualify for assistance even in the case of non payment.

in example 2, the state did not make any "loan" so the non paying parent does not owe the state.

in these examples, the state is the taxpayers, and as a taxpayer, I personally do NOT want to pay for your ignorance.

you are an idiot, a wasted old man bitter from the results of the choices you made in your worthless life.

 

[VoteJP]

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Lets call it a loan from the state.

Welfare as a "loan" from the State.

That just leaves me speechless.



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[bcp]

Welfare as a "loan" from the State.

That just leaves me speechless.



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what should leave you speechless is the fact that you seem to think that I and others hold some responsibilty to pay for the mistakes of your wife when she let you breed.

she did let you right?

 

[This_person]

Welfare as a "loan" from the State.

That just leaves me speechless.

The money recouped by Child Support is not "welfare", it is temporary cash assistance.

"Welfare" is not recouped, as has been shown and explained to you repeatedly.

Those who actually get the child support from the non-custodial should have no need for the temporary cash assistance. This is how a deadbeat non-custodial is actually stealing from taxpayers - by creating a situation in which the child needs taxpayer support instead of parents providing support.

That makes YOU the thief, Jimmy.

 

[VoteJP]

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Welcome back old buddy.

The money recouped by Child Support is not "welfare", it is temporary cash assistance.

The term "Welfare" is a generic word that comes from the preamble of the US Constitution, link HERE, "promote the general Welfare" and the "Temporary Cash Assistance" (TCA) is a part of the Welfare provisions even if it is not the entirety of all Welfare available.

"Welfare" is not recouped, as has been shown and explained to you repeatedly.

Since the State gov does takes the Child Support based on paying the TCA and the TCA is a part of the Welfare programs then you call it TCA and I call it Welfare and it is still the same that the State steals the Child Support from the poorest of the poor custodial families.

Tamoto or Tomato or whatever name - it is still Child Support that does not support children.

Those who actually get the child support from the non-custodial should have no need for the temporary cash assistance.

If that were the real case then the State would NOT be taking the Child Support from the poorest of families, but the State DOES take the Child Support loot so your case is imaginary nonsense just trying to make some fictitious claim of your own that is not real.

When the Child Support does get paid then the State does take the c/s payments and the State does keep the loot.

This is how a deadbeat non-custodial is actually stealing from taxpayers - by creating a situation in which the child needs taxpayer support instead of parents providing support.

Again, that CAN NOT be true, because the noncustodial parents do pay in many cases and the State does keep the Child Support and does NOT give it to the custodial and not to the children.

Your kind slanders the parents in that way, but the fact remains that if the separated parents pay the Child Support or does not pay it then the children and the custodial never gets the payments anyway because the State keeps the c/s as loot.

That makes YOU the thief, Jimmy.

This is another point were your kind slanders based on absolutely nothing.

If I am a thief then please do report me to the authorities to prosecute - but no, because nothing has been stolen by me and I am not in any possession of anything stolen, so some thing has to be taken in order to be a thief.

Like you getting the State to steal from your children's Mom and you living off of that stolen money means some thing has been taken by force, and some one (your self) has received money stolen from the Mother of your children.

In this case some thing has been stolen and some one has stolen property in their possession.

Your own pretentious claim has no reality in it as your words are not true.


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[smdavis65]

JPC,
I'm tired of your tripe. You have no right to preach about parenting, because you failed as a parent.

Yes, I am divorced and pay child support. I have no qualms about supporting my kids. I see them regularly, and we get along great.

Your vendetta offends me. Please DIAF.

Thanks!

 

[hvp05]

The term "Welfare" is a generic word that comes from the preamble of the US Constitution

Around and around you go, same old lies over and over.

Your definition does not even make sense within the four word snip you have used so many times, nonetheless within the overall document you clearly know nothing about.

you call it TCA and I call it Welfare

Okay, simple question: if the state already has a welfare program, why would they initiate a TCA program to perform the exact same functions? Does it not make even the slightest bit of sense that the TCA program is something different and operates under different rules than regular welfare?

 

[VoteJP]

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Around and around you go, same old lies over and over.

So you are playing the police-of-lies this time, and I do not ever lie.

I gave a direct link with a direct quote and more, so you are not a competent police of lies.

Your definition does not even make sense within the four word snip you have used so many times, nonetheless within the overall document you clearly know nothing about.

Boo hoo hoo ......

Okay, simple question: if the state already has a welfare program, why would they initiate a TCA program to perform the exact same functions? Does it not make even the slightest bit of sense that the TCA program is something different and operates under different rules than regular welfare?

What I said, and happy to repeat it again, is that the TCA is a part of Welfare and not the whole program

New quote;

Really, any program in which the government provides money or services to citizens who are in need is a welfare program.

In the United States, welfare may also be used in a more specialized context, to refer specifically to what was historically known as Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and is now known as Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. Since 1997 this welfare system has been handled by the states, who use money given to them by the Federal government as they see fit.

Link it HERE = What is Welfare?

Unless you see the "Geek" as a liar too?


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