The End Times

StarCat · Sep 1, 2005

Nickel said:
I grew up near the Outer Banks....we always had to deal with hurricanes. Maybe you just now started paying attention to the national weather, or maybe it's just now getting media coverage.

i never said we didnt always have them...nevermind

crabcake · Sep 1, 2005

Nickel said:
I grew up near the Outer Banks....we always had to deal with hurricanes. Maybe you just now started paying attention to the national weather, or maybe it's just now getting media coverage.

As a kid (younger adult), I didn't pay much attention to stuff like this or around the world. But I know -- just before I was born -- my parents' house was washed away in a flood in Pennsylvania. And tsunami's aren't anything 'new' either; it's just that the last one was of such magnitude and destruction. Also, years ago, people didn't have the media we have today to convey what's going on around the world.

Nickel · Sep 1, 2005

StarCat said:
Natural disasters are getting worse

StarCat said:
I'm not talking so much about what "happened" in NO, im talking about hurricanes in general

:shrug: I was just saying that hurricanes have always been around, and have always been bad. I think the media is just now focusing on them. :shrug:

ct20657 · Sep 1, 2005

lots of voodoo down there.... :elaine:

God don't like ugly

BuddyLee · Sep 2, 2005

StarCat said:
i never said we didnt always have them...nevermind

You quitter.

Triggerfish · Sep 2, 2005

itsbob said:
OK.. natural disasters are getting worse? Not by a long shot..

We haven't seen the devastation seen by a meteor hitting the planet.. Vesuvius? Earthquakes that could break away continents?

Volcanic eruptions
#10 Vesuvius.... 79 AD deaths....3,300
#2 Krakatau, Indonesia 1883 deaths..36,417
#1 Tambora, Indonesia 1815 deaths..92,000

Earthquakes magnitude deaths
#6 Kanto, Japan 1923 7.9 143,000
#5 Tsinghai, China 1927 7.9 200,000
#4 Ningxia-Gansu, China 1920 8.6 200,000
#3 Tangshan, China 1975 7.5 255,000
#2 Indian Ocean 2004 9.0 283,106
#1 Shaanxi, China 1556 8 830,000!!!!!

Earthquakes are not China's friend.........

Deadliest Hurricane/Typhoon/Cyclone
1991 Bangladesh cyclone
At least 138,000 people were killed by the storm

BuddyLee · Sep 2, 2005

Triggerfish said:
Volcanic eruptions
#10 Vesuvius.... 79 AD deaths....3,300
#2 Krakatau, Indonesia 1883 deaths..36,417
#1 Tambora, Indonesia 1815 deaths..92,000

Earthquakes magnitude deaths
#6 Kanto, Japan 1923 7.9 143,000
#5 Tsinghai, China 1927 7.9 200,000
#4 Ningxia-Gansu, China 1920 8.6 200,000
#3 Tangshan, China 1975 7.5 255,000
#2 Indian Ocean 2004 9.0 283,106
#1 Shaanxi, China 1556 8 830,000!!!!!

Earthquakes are not China's friend.........

You have to expect as much with a country of one billion people. :ohwell:

Triggerfish · Sep 2, 2005

Yeah, but it was nowhere near 1 billion in the 16th century which was the worst earthquake in terms of lives lost. Still it was densley populated along fault lines.

BuddyLee · Sep 2, 2005

Triggerfish said:
Yeah, but it was nowhere near 1 billion in the 16th century which was the worst earthquake in terms of lives lost. Still it was densley populated along fault lines.

True, I bet that knocked off some generations to be.

Triggerfish · Sep 2, 2005

830,000...that's more people than a lot of European country's whole population at that time.

BuddyLee · Sep 2, 2005

Triggerfish said:
830,000...that's more people than a lot of European country's whole population at that time.

One has to wonder what it was like in China back then. I mean, they didn't have the highrises and grandiose bridges that we have today. What could possibly fall on all 830,000 of these people besides loosely constructed homes and temples. Perhaps I'm making large assumptions here but it would be interesting to know the answer nonetheless.

Triggerfish · Sep 2, 2005

and imagine the devastation. The victims were basically on their own. No way the government could aid the people even if it wanted to.

One thing to consider though.....The Chinese nation is very old. So it has had many things happen to it...both good and bad.

tlatchaw · Sep 2, 2005

BuddyLee said:
One has to wonder what it was like in China back then. I mean, they didn't have the highrises and grandiose bridges that we have today. What could possibly fall on all 830,000 of these people besides loosely constructed homes and temples. Perhaps I'm making large assumptions here but it would be interesting to know the answer nonetheless.

:shrug: Maybe it cause a big fire after the shaking was done? Their houses were all at least partly wood, big quake shakes down a major city without wide streets, everything is lit and heated with an open flame. . .

tirdun · Sep 2, 2005

Tordnados aren't getting worse. Here's some tornado data from NOAA, plus some pre-1950 figures. Note that REPORTED tornaodes gradually increases, then rapidly takes off after tornado-sensing radar is introduced.

Deaths decrease slightly, probably due to earlier warnings and better medical care.

The 200+ death years are in bold.

Year - Tornadoes - Deaths
1950 201 70
1951 260 34
1952 240 230
1953 422 519
1954 550 36
1955 593 129
1956 504 83
1957 858 193
1958 564 67
1959 604 58
1960 616 46
1961 697 52
1962 657 30
1963 463 31
1964 704 73
1965 897 301
1966 585 98
1967 926 114
1968 660 131
1969 608 66
1970 653 73
1971 889 159
1972 741 27
1973 1102 89
1974 945 366
1975 919 60
1976 834 44
1977 852 43
1978 789 53
1979 855 84
1980 866 28
1981 782 24
1982 1047 64
1983 931 34
1984 907 122
1985 684 34
1986 765 94
1987 656 15
1988 702 59
1989 856 50
1990 1133 53
1991 1132 39
1992 1297 39
1993 1173 33
1994 1082 69
1995 1234 30
1996 1173 25
1997 1148 67
1998 1424 130
1999 1342 94

Some historical, pre-1950 US tornadoes:
1840 Natchez, MI 317 killed
1884: The Great Southern Tornado Outbreak: 170 killed
1890: Louisville, KY: 125 killed
1896: St. Louis, KY: 305 killed
1899: New Richmond, WI Tornado: 114 killed
1908: The Dixie Outbreak: 320 killed
1913: Omaha, NE: 94 killed
1920: MI/AL: 224 killled
1925: Tri-State Tornado: 747 killed
1927: Poplar Bluff, MS: 217 killed
1936: Tupelo-Gainesville Outbreak: 455 killed
1945: Glazier, TX: 181 killed

tirdun · Sep 2, 2005

Hurricanes with 1000+ deaths:

"The Great Hurricane"; OCT 1780. Lesser Antilles. 20,000+ deaths. Exceeds the cumulative loss in any year except 1780.
Galveston, TX; SEP 1900. 8->10,000 deaths.
Hurricane Fifi, Honduras. SEP 1974. 8->10,000 deaths
Dominican Republic, SEP 1930. 4->8,000 deaths.
Hurricane Flora, Haiti/Cuba. SEP/OCT 1963. 7->8,000 deaths.
Pointe-a-Pitre Guam. SEP 1776. 6,000 deaths
Newfoundland Banks. SEP 1775. 4,000 deaths
Great 1889 Hurricane (Carolinas). AUG 1899. 3400 deaths
US SE/Carrib, SEP 1928. 3300 deaths.
Cuba/Jamaica. NOV 1932. 2500->3300 deaths.
Central Atlantic. SEP 1782. 3000 deaths
Martinique Aug 1813. 3000
El Salvador, Honduras Jun 1934 3000
Cuba Jun 1791 3000
Barbados Aug 1831 2500
Belize Sep 1931 2500
Haiti/Honduras Oct 1935 2100
Hurricane David SEP/OCT1979 2000
Florida ?/1781 2000
SC/GE Aug 1893 2000
Eastern Gulf of Mexico Oct 1780 2000
Cuba Octt 1870 2000
Louisiana Oct 1893 2000
Guadeloupe, Martinique Aug 1666 2000
Martinique Aug 1767 1600
Mexico Aug 1909 1500
W Cuba, Straits of FL Oct 1644 1500
Guadeloupe, Puerto Rico Jul 1825 1300
Offshore Nicaragua ?-1605 1300
Hurricane Gordon Nov 1994 1145
Jamaica, Cuba Oct 1780 1115
Straits of Florida Sep 1622 1000

Here's a list of dates with hurricanes causing ~1000 deaths:
NOV 1590, SEP 1694, JUL 1715, OCT 1768, 1601, OCT 1954 (Hazel), 1966, 1888, OCT 1867

teverheart2002 · Sep 2, 2005

I think that we are closer than we want to believe. JMO

Mikeinsmd · Sep 2, 2005

StarCat said:
Why are you always giving me crap, did I do something to offend you, or are you just "naturally bitter"?

I'm always giving you crap?? Do I detect some paranoia here? I merely used your post for my post. My post was a joke that obviously went *WHOOSH* right over your head. :lmao:

I'm not bitter. Quite the contrary, I am rather jovial. It's you drama queens who are bitter with your passion over karma and who's in whos' forum, who said what to who about whom etc.... :gossip:

Comments like "Natural disasters are getting worse" are golden. I hope you all continue to post on open forums so I can continue to laugh!! :yay:

2ndAmendment · Sep 2, 2005

JoeShmoe said:
Do you think we are approaching, or in them?

Of course we are approaching them. Every day brings the last day closer whether it is tomorrow or 100,000 years from now. Personally, I think it will be sooner rather than later, but here is what Jesus said about the last days.

Matthew 24

Signs of Christ's Return

1Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. 2And He said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down."

3As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

4And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you.

5"For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many.

6"You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.

7"For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.

8"But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

9"Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.

10"At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.

11"Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.

12"Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.

13"But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.

14"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Perilous Times

15"Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.

17"Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house.

18"Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak.

19"But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!

20"But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath.

21"For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.

22"Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

23"Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ,' or 'There He is,' do not believe him.

24"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

25"Behold, I have told you in advance.

26"So if they say to you, 'Behold, He is in the wilderness,' do not go out, or, 'Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe them.

27"For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

28"Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

The Glorious Return

29"But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30"And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.

31"And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Parable of the Fig Tree

32"Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; 33so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door.

34"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

35"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.

36"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

37"For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah.

38"For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,

39and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

40"Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.

41"Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.

Be Ready for His Coming

42"Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. 43"But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.

44"For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.

45"Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time?

46"Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes.

47"Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions.

48"But if that evil slave says in his heart, 'My master is not coming for a long time,'

49and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards;

50the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know,

51and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

I think we are seeing a lot of thesse things happening. This board attests that people hate one another and that most's love of God has grow cold. But Jesus said that "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." and warned "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming." and "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will."

I think we should prepare to live a long life and live like Jesus is coming at any moment.

StarCat · Sep 2, 2005

Mikeinsmd said:
I'm always giving you crap?? Do I detect some paranoia here? I merely used your post for my post. My post was a joke that obviously went *WHOOSH* right over your head.

I'm not bitter. Quite the contrary, I am rather jovial. It's you drama queens who are bitter with your passion over karma and who's in whos' forum, who said what to who about whom etc....

Comments like "Natural disasters are getting worse" are golden. I hope you all continue to post on open forums so I can continue to laugh!!

You're full of :bs:

, but whatever buddy :yay:

Ernie · Sep 2, 2005

JoeShmoe said:
Do you think we are approaching, or in them?

I will consult my magic 8 ball. It says "ask again later".

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