The Illusion of Choice: Romney vs Obama

daileyck1

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This is why there is NO moral equivalency, at all, between Islam and Christianity. This nation was founded by very Christian people and they chose to make religious freedom NUMBER ONE on the rules list.

It also includes freedom from religion not just freedom of religion
 

FoundingFather

New Member
"There is nothing inherently wrong with paper money, but in practice, it does not work."



Contradiction?


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Good catch, bad use of the word "wrong". I meant that its not inherently evil. Theoretically it could work, but in practice it doesn't because those who control it are dishonest with it. Gold can somewhat keep that in check.
 
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Larry Gude

Strung Out
It also includes freedom from religion not just freedom of religion

Any Christians force you into their faith lately? Ever?

Included in the first amendment...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I get to tell you that you should become a Christian or you will go to hell. You get to tell me to #### off. There is no right to not 'feel' uncomfortable based on what other people say and do just so long as it doesn't violate rights to your life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. If your 'feelings' get hurt, the founders didn't count them as a right anymore than they counted Christianity as THE national religion.

Pretty kewl, huh?

:buddies:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Sure, context and interpretation are important with any literal piece. I don't deny that there are extremists who are violent and hell bent on world domination. But to sterotype the entire Muslim religion as being that way, as suggested in a previous post, is just ridiculous. There are people like that all over the world, regardless of religion. Ironically, some foreigners probably look at the USA and see us in the same light. To ignore that reality is being close-minded.

Look. There are an enormous number of Muslims who don't take their faith any more serious than members of any other faith; they just do what they gotta do to get by. There are people, Muslims, who oppose fundamentalism which I pointed out. They're the ones who want to Westernize, not just modernize.

There were Germans and Japanese that didn't want war with the US. There were Americans who didn't want war with Germany or Japan. There were plenty of Northerners that fought for the South in our civil war. Gen. John Pemberton comes immediately to mind. And Southerners who fought for the North, including General George Thomas. However, at the end of the day, you're on the side you're on. You gotta know where your bread is buttered. Neither of those guys was ever really trusted by the side they fought for making them truly trust worthy because they at least KNEW why they were doing what they did.

Muslims today have to speak up if they oppose fundamentalism in their faith. Long and loud.

Christopher Hitchens said many insightful things not least of which was his comments about Islam and the Western press. When Islam was insulted some years back by cartoons of their prophet, he said the press had a moral obligation to not show the cartoons. You do not support base bigotry or offensiveness.

However, when Muslims started threatening death over the matter, Hitch then said, at that point, the press had a moral obligation TO SHOW THEM. You do NOT support irrational, violent extremism.

We ain't perfect. We're just better than them although watching our left freak out and scream for censorship all the time, the gap is narrowing.

:buddies:
 

helloween

New Member
And now you want us to go to war with Iran? Why? Because they support Al Qaeda? Because they have a nuke? We've heard those lies before. Give me a break. Iran is not the threat. Look at the image below and you tell me who is the threat.

It sounds to me like you are afraid of the boogyman.

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Oh, and can't wait for the "debates" on Wednesday. I think of the media/debates as a huge microscope that has to zoom in 100x on the political scale to show the "differences" between them.
 
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