The Jesus Puzzle

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I thought this would be an interesting read for all you people out there. Please note that I am posting a link to this site to see the reaction of everyone here...please follow and post your thoughts...

http://www.jesuspuzzle.com/

 

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The Jesus Puzzle 02-19-2007 09:27 PM Hi Slotted. Go beat your wife

This guy again....aparently becuase I have a different opinion than you I am supposed to beat my wife. Your a dumbass...

 

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Crap...serisouly why can't I get anyone here to give me their thoughts on this subject? Not trying to pick apart chirstianity, just trying to get an opinion from some christians.

 

[Bird Dog]

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Crap...serisouly why can't I get anyone here to give me their thoughts on this subject? Not trying to pick apart chirstianity, just trying to get an opinion from some christians.

There has always been groups trying to bring down modern Christianity.
There has always been groups trying to capitalize on modern Christianity.

and unforutunately there alway will be.

Just as side note, if you ever want to be taken seriously on these "Southern Maryland" forums, think about your forum name. JMHO

 

[Bustem' Down]

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Crap...serisouly why can't I get anyone here to give me their thoughts on this subject? Not trying to pick apart chirstianity, just trying to get an opinion from some christians.

Thoughts? Here's what I think. The Christians will not believe it. Most atheists like me don't really care. Some atheists like FredFlash will try to use it to claim everyone following Christianity is a retard (which in and of itself is retarded). I personally think that there was unequivically an historical person named Jesus. Something this big doesn't materialize out of thin air, I just don't think he was divine in any way shape or form, nor do I think he was the son of any God.

 

[Pete]

Thoughts? Here's what I think. The Christians will not believe it. Most atheists like me don't really care. Some atheists like FredFlash will try to use it to claim everyone following Christianity is a retard (which in and of itself is retarded). I personally think that there was unequivically an historical person named Jesus. Something this big doesn't materialize out of thin air, I just don't think he was divine in any way shape or form, nor do I think he was the son of any God.

Well said. I never understood the need some have to belittle and to contend religious people are retarded for being religious. Live and let live. :shrug:

 

[Bustem' Down]

Well said. I never understood the need some have to belittle and to contend religious people are retarded for being religious. Live and let live. :shrug:

What do I care if you believe in a god or not. You could carry a twig in your pocket and worship it for all I care.

 

[Pete]

What do I care if you believe in a god or not. You could carry a twig in your pocket and worship it for all I care.

Really, it is not like they are hurting anyone. Besides those two crimes against humanity Jim and Tammy Fay Bakker the worst thing is someone might do or say is "God Bless you" and hand you a pamphlet.

 

[Tonio]

I personally think that there was unequivically an historical person named Jesus. Something this big doesn't materialize out of thin air, I just don't think he was divine in any way shape or form, nor do I think he was the son of any God.

I think it's possible to study, evaluate, and appreciate the philosophical teachings attributed to Jesus while reserving judgment on any of the supernatural claims.

Regarding salvation, I had understood that Christians were NOT of one mind on the issue, with Catholicism teaching "good works" and many Protestant denominations teaching "faith alone." I suspect that I may be oversimplifying the doctrines.

 

[Roughidle]

Regarding salvation, I had understood that Christians were NOT of one mind on the issue, with Catholicism teaching "good works" and many Protestant denominations teaching "faith alone." I suspect that I may be oversimplifying the doctrines.

Perhaps, but I think you got it in a nut shell there.

 

[Tonio]

Really, it is not like they are hurting anyone. Besides those two crimes against humanity Jim and Tammy Fay Bakker the worst thing is someone might do or say is "God Bless you" and hand you a pamphlet.

Valid point. It would be different if they went around telling people they were doomed to burn in a lake of fire for eternity. And even doctrines such as Original Sin make claims about the natural world. I question why any religious doctrine has to deal with the natural world at all, because the claims end up trying to define people. And I question the goal or merit of religions making claims about the supernatural. If it's a good thing that humans "do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly," what difference should it make if one person believes in a single deity and another person believes in tree spirits?[font=Arial, Helvetica, Ms sans serif][/font]

 

[Pete]

Valid point. It would be different if they went around telling people they were doomed to burn in a lake of fire for eternity. And even doctrines such as Original Sin make claims about the natural world. I question why any religious doctrine has to deal with the natural world at all, because the claims end up trying to define people. And I question the goal or merit of religions making claims about the supernatural. If it's a good thing that humans "do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly," what difference should it make if one person believes in a single deity and another person believes in tree spirits?[font=Arial, Helvetica, Ms sans serif][/font]

Well in 42 years I think I can count on both hands how many times I have been approached by church members who urged me to come to their church, on one hand how many missionaries stopped to preach to me, and I have never been told I was going to burn in a lake of fire for an eternity for being a heathen. So out of 15,500 days 11-15 times doesn't really bother me. I am cordial, listen politely until I don't want to anymore and then excuse myself.

 

[Toxick]

and I have never been told I was going to burn in a lake of fire for an eternity for being a heathen.

I can arrange for someone to do this for you, if that's something you're interested in.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Well in 42 years I think I can count on both hands how many times I have been approached by church members who urged me to come to their church, on one hand how many missionaries stopped to preach to me, and I have never been told I was going to burn in a lake of fire for an eternity for being a heathen. So out of 15,500 days 11-15 times doesn't really bother me. I am cordial, listen politely until I don't want to anymore and then excuse myself.

I've been told several times that I am going to hell.

 

[Tonio]

Well in 42 years I think I can count on both hands how many times I have been approached by church members who urged me to come to their church, on one hand how many missionaries stopped to preach to me, and I have never been told I was going to burn in a lake of fire for an eternity for being a heathen. So out of 15,500 days 11-15 times doesn't really bother me. I am cordial, listen politely until I don't want to anymore and then excuse myself.

I'm glad your experiences have been salutary. And your response to them is polite and mature. Unfortunately, many Jews living in mostly non-Jewish communities have reported very negative experiences with fundamentalist Christians, especially in school.

 

[Pete]

I can arrange for someone to do this for you, if that's something you're interested in.

Nah, Zurg wouldn't like it.

 

[Pete]

I've been told several times that I am going to hell.

I have been called many names, it really doesn't bother me. :shrug:

 

[Pete]

I'm glad your experiences have been salutary. And your response to them is polite and mature. Unfortunately, many Jews living in mostly non-Christian communities have reported very negative experiences with fundamentalist Christians, especially in school.

So Christians are going to predominately Jewish communities, enrolling in schools and harrassing Jews?

 

[BS Gal]

I have been called many names, it really doesn't bother me. :shrug:

Do you worship the twig in your pocket?

 

[Tonio]

So Christians are going to predominately Jewish communities, enrolling in schools and harrassing Jews?

I misspoke. I meant that the Jews were in mostly non-Jewish communities. My point was that the harassment is more transcendentally offensive and hurtful when it includes the doctrine of eternal damnation. Many atheists use terms like "stupid" and "ignorant" when talking about religious people, and while I strongly condemn that kind of rudeness, that doesn't even come close to wanting to see someone else burn forever in hell.