wxtornado
The Other White Meat
Safe travels my friend.
the moral chicken and egg
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Safe travels my friend.
Xaquin44
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All 100,000 faiths throughout time are as valid as each all the others. Does that clear things up for you?
oh, I know .... I just meant to another of faith.
I do, to a point. What is in a man's heart is what counts, so lusting a female does her a wrong just short of murder, and closer to rape.
Xaquin44
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really?
so if you check a girl out you honestly feel you're somehow close to raping her?
how do you go on a first date?
are you honest?
"hi how are you?"
"fine, you?"
"look, I'll be honest, when I saw you I thought rape."
-SLAP-
come on.
that's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
This_person
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Including faith in science?All 100,000 faiths throughout time are as valid as each all the others. Does that clear things up for you?
For example, what proof can you offer me as to the origin of the universe? The origin of life here?
Xaquin44
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give it time.
at least science is looking for answers instead of just saying "invisible man" and leaving it there.
This_person
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And this is where I think there's faith in both. You have faith that science will come up with a different answer than a Supreme Being. I have faith the answer is already out there.
Xaquin44
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because the first stab at things is usually always right?
This_person
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The Old Testament was the "first stab" at religion, or even "first stab" at trying to describe the origins of life and the universe?
Uh, no.
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Xaquin44
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oh, I know it wasn't the first. Unless you believe the bible.
This_person
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The Bible doesn't claim to be the first to try and explain anything, nor does it make any claims to be the first religion. Actually, it demonstrates it's not even close to the first religion.
It just claims to be right. Much like science (with no workable theories), and virtually every other religion.
Xaquin44
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This_person
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It claims to be right, by saying God created the universe.
It recognizes other religions existed by talking about how other religions are out there - making one of the first commandments being "thou shalt have no other God before me".
It says it was there first, not that it was the first religion.
Xaquin44
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It says it was first by default. By saying god created the first people, spoke with them, etc. etc. one would assume that they (the people) recognized him as their god.
This_person
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Yep, it says that it's got the answer to the origin of life. It says it's right about what happened.
And, it recognizes that other religions and beliefs exist. And that the first writer, Moses, had to deal with those other beliefs.
So, I guess I stand corrected. It claims to be first, in that (while others existed) it was there even before the creation of the other religions and thoughts, because its God (not its god, its God) is the creator.