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toppick08
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Yes he is...........when you get enough of him you'll go back to the Father. Works everytime.........Keep going to Sunday school.....
the moral chicken and egg
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Xaquin44
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evolution still happens ....
I'm confused .... are you implying that evolution could only happen once, or that it can't happen still?
Xaquin44
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or he could not have been created at all which would be to the benefit of all ....Yes he is...........when you get enough of him you'll go back to the Father. Works everytime.........Keep going to Sunday school.....
fredcaudle
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You write... "evolution still happens"... then creation still happens too...
"are you implying that evolution could only happen once, or that it can't happen still?" Let me explain it this way.... man came from ape (or something), ape came from something, that something came from something, and that something came from something... and so on x's infinity. Until a "cell" appears out of no where and makes a totally new creature/species it is totally subjective. Labs have never made a cell (with no previous material) out of nothing...
Creation in the Bible does not attempt to justify or explain it in detail. It makes a very bold statement... "In the beginning... God created...." Going further we see the Spirit of God and then even further into the Bible we see Christ at God's side fashioning into existence what was spoken by God. Does this explain creation? No... it is by faith.
Now, science has not been able to reduplicate this "beginning" (i.e. out of nothing)
Both beliefs come to the essence of faith. If it is not faith, then make a cell out of nothing...
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toppick08
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True enough.........but God had/has a plan.....take the sins of man away from us at Calvary......through His Son.....Believe it or not.......
Xaquin44
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oh I agree that science is lacking, but they did isolate the gene in the moths and found it more prevelant after Industrial Revolution made the need for it grow.
as for creating something out of nothing, well science has just as much a leg to stand on as do the various religions.
Neither know .... science will try to find out though. Whether they are successful or not we may never know.
Either way, at this point there is no evidence (for the beginning), but there are cases of evolution.
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Xaquin44
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just out of curiosity, since god created us out of nothing and he created jesus from nothing, are we like brothers or something?True enough.........but God had/has a plan.....take the sins of man away from us at Calvary......through His Son.....Believe it or not.......
fredcaudle
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Now you are seeing what I am saying... there are cases for creation and to non-religious people there are cases for evolution.
Religious people take God as souce.... non-religious are looking for the source. Both are on faith. God people believe we will know as we see the Creator.
fredcaudle
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We are brothers... God did not create Jesus - He Is. God is Jesus in flesh.
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toppick08
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We're all brothers and children of God.
Xaquin44
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whew, I'm in the clear .... unless god would send his child to hell.
that would be bad parenting.
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NVUCK NYUCK NYUCK
fredcaudle
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or bad obedience of the child to his parent.... No "clear" zone yet!
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toppick08
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He has no problem doing that if you are disobedient(turn away) to His Word..He is the Father to us all........and WILL HAVE FINAL SAY-SO to us all.....We all have the choice to listen or not.......I'm out of this thread.
Xaquin44
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meh, at least I'm a good enough father not to have labeled my child a sinner from birth and said that if he didn't follow my stringent rules that I laid down 2,000 years before his birth he would spend eternity in hell.
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Xaquin44
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bye
fredcaudle
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What stringent rule? God in flesh died on the cross for you... you believe that (and may I add that is not stringent since HE DID EVERYTHING) then you are a child of God.
By the way, in disbelief you agree to be a child of Satan... these are Jesus' words found in the book of John. Whose child do we wish to be?
If I tell my child not to stick her hand on a hot stove and she does because "Daddy doesn't know everything" - whose at fault?
Xaquin44
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The stringent rules set forth in the bible. All that garbage you aren't allowed to do (or can do if you beg forgivness at the end) (ha ha).
Codswallop. I agreed to no such thing .... If some other guy wrote it in a book 2k years before I was born, that is hardly binding to me.
I don't follow .... are you equating a burnt hand to an eternity in hell .... also, are you equating warning from a person you know and trust vs. a 'god' whose last 'official' sighting was 2,000 years ago and who has since been claimed 'known' by the majority of the world (who all happen to have their own interpretation they insist is right)?
fredcaudle
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All that garbage... you mock God's word.
Codswallop... ok... don't agree to such a thing... 2,000 years ago, guess you can't believe in evolution when it turns 2,000 years old?
burnt hand... hell... hmmmm. official siting? God Is, always will be and knows your heart too. Insist their interpretation is right... does it agree with the 66 books known as the Bible? (My belief there... you have to choose which "right" you want to take.)
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Good point.
Xaquin44
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hey, he's the guy (according to 2A) who says that checking a girl out is equally sinful as killing 50 people and making soup from their toes.
Evolution never said that if you don't follow its rules you'll spend eternity in hell. Also, evolution is a process .... it's not like I'm praying to it at the table to bless my food or anything.
I'm saying that the majority of the world believes in some form of god, and each person thinks they have it right. Since they all think they have it right, there is no way for a child to really know short of god coming down and telling him to his face (which he doesn't do). What if you were born in some other country where your parents worshiped a different god .... would you believe the way you do now in your god?