LMFAO. You da man, Chuck. I thought I was "one of those" once....turned out it was just some bad acid.
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LMFAO. You da man, Chuck. I thought I was "one of those" once....turned out it was just some bad acid.
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Chuckt
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Have you actually read the whole Bible?
OK, so everyone who called me out on saying Chuckt was a Fundy Wacko, I will accept your apologies now....
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Chuckt
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OK, so everyone who called me out on saying Chuckt was a Fundy Wacko, I will accept your apologies now....
Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church (ekklēsia); and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Ek means out and klesia is a form of kaleō which means "to call" or to call by name:
Acts 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name (kaleō) was Saul.
If I am a fundy wacko then why don't you apply it to your own church? Do you know why? It is the abandonment of one's religion which is apostasy.
2 Thesalonians 2:1 ¶ Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him,
2 Thesalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2 Thesalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away (g646 ἀποστασία apostasia) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Apostasy means to forsake or a defection.
Apostasy
Apostasy (from Greek αποστασία, meaning a defection or revolt, from απο, apo, "away, apart", στασις, stasis, "standing") is a term generally employed to describe the formal abandonment or renunciation of one's religion, especially if the motive is deemed unworthy.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary_of_Jewish_terms
So when you apply it to me instead of yourself or other Christians as well then you have deemed the term unworthy on yourself because you don't identify with the church (ekklēsia) which are the called out ones. If you are called out of the world then you identify with the Church but if you are in a world system called the church then you are the "called in ones" which is different than Biblical Christianity.
hotcoffee
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I was taught that the Holy Spirit will interpret what you don't understand if you ask.
Jeremiah 33:3 ‘Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.’
I'm not sure I want to know everything. Only God knows everything.
I am sure that He will tell me everything I need to know.
Why yes, in fact. Why?
OK, so everyone who called me out on saying Chuckt was a Fundy Wacko, I will accept your apologies now....
There is no "if" about it, Chucky...
Radiant1
Soul Probe
Ok, ok...may I suggest you relax a bit maybe with a nice glass of wine, or two...and be thankful you didn't decide to become a Mormon
I apologize. Between a full-time job, running a household with two teen girls, tending to a very sick mother who has been in and out of the hospital, and various other obligations, I'm worn a bit thin and have no tolerance for bs.
Exactly!! According to the doctrine of sola scriptura it is, and just as legitimate as yours.
I swear, I hate the Cathy v Protty bitching. (and I say that as an argumentative non-practicing Protty attending a Cathy Bible study)
And even though your automatic demonization and broad brush characterization of all prottys annoys me, I can relate to the embedded irritation - these discussions WAY too often turn into some stupid show of who can criticize the best and it rubs me raw too (this thread being a perfect case in point).
So with the rambling aside, I think you have an interesting topic if we can throw out all the trash: Authority and Interpretation.
I think I hear your argument. I see the Cathy side of the fence that says there needs to be someone (an earthly someone) qualified to figure crap out when nobody agrees/understands. But that doesn't mean I am willing to give up my own ability to be rational, to think/understand and to hear from God/the Holy Spirit on my own. And even as a Protty, when the topic is tough, I am more than willing to seek wise counsel. In fact, I pondered some tough crap just last night with some dear wise Cathy friends.
Yes, yes, yes!
You're right. I probably should have waited to post when I was in a better mood.
If I do, I surely will!
lol - so stop following them down the bunny trails
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Chuckt
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Exactly!! According to the doctrine of sola scriptura it is, and just as legitimate as yours.
That is an assumption.
Are there any moral absolutes? Is there a right and wrong?
If there is a right and wrong then you can be wrong.
If there are no right and wrongs in your mind, how can you be absolutely sure because you can't be sure if there are no rights and wrongs.
Proverb 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the (eternal) ways of death.
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Radiant1
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Missing the point...AGAIN.
The irony upon irony here would be more than amusing if it weren't so darn pathetic.
What more can I say? He that has ears to hear, let him hear...
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Chuckt
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Missing the point...AGAIN.
The irony upon irony here would be more than amusing if it weren't so darn pathetic.
What more can I say? He that has ears to hear, let him hear...
Noah heard it all before.