The Water Company

[Midnightrider]

We are getting more and more traffic from PG County [if you catch my drift].
I guess i dont get it. Are you saying people drive through the club during their commute through PG?
The LNG plant used our roads in their emergency evacuation plan to get from the plant to PHS in case of an incident... without blinking an eye....
they haven't actually used our roads, they have just established a plan
The State takes the fuel tax and vehicle registration fees for our roads [100 miles of "private" roads in Calvert County] and uses it in Montgomery County and Baltimore County etc.
if those vehicles never left the ranch, then you might have a point
Even some tenants use our roads for free while our own homeowners benefit from the monthly rent. If they stay away from the amenities there's no way to know.
the tenents dont use anything for free. The homeowner has to pay their dues, so its taken care of
Builders can come in and build anything they want [according to the County not ARC] and don't have to do a thing about storm water managment [which is the major cause of rutting our roads ... and the County just rubberstamps the plans. CRE pays the bill for the repair of the road and the bill for the SWM problems caused....
that sounds like a CRE problem, not a county one
I don't mean to be complaining... these are just the facts... These are just a few of the things we've been working on .... It's not a big deal... but then again... it's something that should be addressed.

and you still haven't said what the rest of the county gets that we don't

 

[residentofcre]

Put up a toll gate for non-residents.

That's a great idea.... that would really run up the cost of pizza tho....

 

[2ndAmendment]

That's a great idea.... that would really run up the cost of pizza tho....

Cost of doing business just like drilling new wells.

 

[residentofcre]

We are getting increased crime...

Without the plan LNG could never open again and they certainly couldn't expand.... County, State, and Federal ok.... No.. they haven't used the roads physically yet... but when it's good for the county or the state then the roads are no longer private

They don't take the fuel taxes or registration fees from the people who live on county roads and use it elsewhere... it's returned to the county. I wouldn't mind paying at the pump quite so much if all the money we paid in taxes came back into the county... but it doesn't...

CRE has a fee for tenants....... but that's an internal problem.... I shouldn't have included that issue in here...

The Stormwater Issue would be a CRE issue and not a County Issue if the County didn't take money for it and not return it to the community. Every house built in CRE made $$$ for the county... and not one penny went back to the community.... to me that's wrong...

 

[Midnightrider]

becky, your full of misinformation. Your slant on the issues is just that, the jaded slant of a CRE board member, none of it is justified.


As far as the stupid roads go. If you guys in charge of the POACRE would spend the money wisely and not have excesses stored in some feel good account, the roads could be upgraded to acceptable by the county and they would take them over, at least thats my understanding. But when the roads crew is constantly putting on bandaids and not making real changes the county isn't going to step in to fix the problem.

If anybody is being taken for a ride, its the thousands of homeowners in CRE who pay their roads fees only to have little to nothing done with it. At least the county takes care of the county roads, and the state takes care of state roads with the fees they collect. And we (members of CRE) use those everyday.

 

[Pete]

We are getting increased crime...

Without the plan LNG could never open again and they certainly couldn't expand.... County, State, and Federal ok.... No.. they haven't used the roads physically yet... but when it's good for the county or the state then the roads are no longer private

They don't take the fuel taxes or registration fees from the people who live on county roads and use it elsewhere... it's returned to the county. I wouldn't mind paying at the pump quite so much if all the money we paid in taxes came back into the county... but it doesn't...

CRE has a fee for tenants....... but that's an internal problem.... I shouldn't have included that issue in here...

The Stormwater Issue would be a CRE issue and not a County Issue if the County didn't take money for it and not return it to the community. Every house built in CRE made $$$ for the county... and not one penny went back to the community.... to me that's wrong...

It sounds to me like you should just dissolve your board and let the county take over everything. You want the "benefit" of being private, yet wank about the lack of county investment in your "private property".

Your arguments have been destroyed yet you continue to twist and grasp at straws to the point you sound ridiculous.

Good luck ever getting elected, you are only sound good as long as no one questions you but as soon as they do you turn manic.

 

[Pete]

and you still haven't said what the rest of the county gets that we don't

I asked twice as well.

 

[Sharon]

We are getting more and more traffic from PG County [if you catch my drift]. Are you saying people from PG county are driving around CRE? How can we spot them? Spinners? Heavily tinted windows? Gangsta rap?

The LNG plant used our roads in their emergency evacuation plan to get from the plant to PHS in case of an incident... without blinking an eye.... That funny ...they're used on paper. Why would someone want to go from the LNG plant to the high school in an emergency? Doesn't matter - they'd get lost like everyone else who's not familiar with the roads.

The State takes the fuel tax and vehicle registration fees for our roads [100 miles of "private" roads in Calvert County] and uses it in Montgomery County and Baltimore County etc. I had no idea our roads paid a registration fee or fuel tax. What do Montgomery and Baltimore counties do with it?

Even some tenants use our roads for free while our own homeowners benefit from the monthly rent. If they stay away from the amenities there's no way to know. Tenants pay rent to the homeowners, who pay the fees. I don't see what's wrong with that whether or not they use the amenities.

Builders can come in and build anything they want [according to the County not ARC] and don't have to do a thing about storm water managment [which is the major cause of rutting our roads ... and the County just rubberstamps the plans. CRE pays the bill for the repair of the road and the bill for the SWM problems caused....Are builders required to fix roads in all the other neighborhoods if I hired one to build on my lot?

I don't mean to be complaining... these are just the facts... These are just a few of the things we've been working on .... It's not a big deal... but then again... it's something that should be addressed.

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[Sharon]

It sounds to me like you should just dissolve your board and let the county take over everything. You want the "benefit" of being private, yet wank about the lack of county investment in your "private property".

Your arguments have been destroyed yet you continue to twist and grasp at straws to the point you sound ridiculous.

She doesn't speak for everyone in CRE. A lot of people can complain and get bent over these things, but they KNEW about it before they bought in or they ignored it altogether. Sure some things could use improvement, but degrading the neighborhood and the county like this could make the community very undesirable to newcomers and hurt CRE overall.

 

[residentofcre]

To tell you all the truth... I have been playing devils advocate with this situation for way too long.

I called the office and told them my road had ruts in it from the heavy rain from Ernesto... they came out and put down some rock... it's great. Our roads crew does a great job clearing the main roads in the winter.

I have also heard from most of the parents that the dirt roads are better because they hold down the speeders. When they get dry it's pretty dusty but that's not so bad.

Our water rates are pretty good, and now that the water company has finally taken steps to lower the arsenic levels it's not so bad. Our water actually tastes really great.



Sometimes you have to play devils advocate to see what people really think and keeping this thread going as long as I have has been a real chore.... I'm glad it's finally at a place where it can stop.... Unless of course you all want to keep it going more....



I love the trees here in the fall. This place is beautiful in the fall.

 

[FastCarsSpeed]

To tell you all the truth... I have been playing devils advocate with this situation for way too long.

I called the office and told them my road had ruts in it from the heavy rain from Ernesto... they came out and put down some rock... it's great. Our roads crew does a great job clearing the main roads in the winter.

I have also heard from most of the parents that the dirt roads are better because they hold down the speeders. When they get dry it's pretty dusty but that's not so bad.

Our water rates are pretty good, and now that the water company has finally taken steps to lower the arsenic levels it's not so bad. Our water actually tastes really great.



Sometimes you have to play devils advocate to see what people really think and keeping this thread going as long as I have has been a real chore.... I'm glad it's finally at a place where it can stop.... Unless of course you all want to keep it going more....



I love the trees here in the fall. This place is beautiful in the fall.

LOL where in here are you playing devils advocate. Im sorry I think you have lived in CRE way too long and have some type of private community complex. I have read a ton on CRE and as it was explained above the county would take over maintenance of the roads in CRE once they are brought up to specifications. If you want to stay a private community and like the quaint feel of dirt and gravel filled roads then stop #####ing about state or county funding.

As for the water and wells guess what. If the water company went away tomorrow another private enterprise would come in and run it or the the state/county would take it over. Since there are houses served by what we would consider community fed water I seriously doubt anyone would have to be putting in personal wells.

Our house is being built right now in CRE and some of the comments I have seen here are hilarious. CRE has made a massive change in the past say 5 years. When I used to come down there it was a dump in most parts. But as property values have increased the neighborhood has changed massively enough for us to be comfortable building a house in the community and plan to live there for a long time.

 

[Sharon]

Our roads crew does a great job clearing the main roads in the winter.

They've done a fantastic job in the past few winters. More than the county has on the back roads once you leave out of CRE.

 

[Sharon]

Im sorry I think you have lived in CRE way too long and have some type of private community complex. I have read a ton on CRE and as it was explained above the county would take over maintenance of the roads in CRE once they are brought up to specifications.

Who told you that?

Our house is being built right now in CRE and some of the comments I have seen here are hilarious. CRE has made a massive change in the past say 5 years. When I used to come down there it was a dump in most parts. But as property values have increased the neighborhood has changed massively enough for us to be comfortable building a house in the community and plan to live there for a long time.

Forgive me for laughing but why would you build a house in a place where you thought it was a dump 5 years ago? I've been here over 3X's that long and I NEVER considered it a dump. What are the massive changes you think you saw?

 

[greyhound]

I totally understand... wasn't it you that said I would make a good mayor of Lusby but not a good commissioner....

I never said that.

 

[FastCarsSpeed]

Who told you that?


Forgive me for laughing but why would you build a house in a place where you thought it was a dump 5 years ago? I've been here over 3X's that long and I NEVER considered it a dump. What are the massive changes you think you saw?

Its been in newsletters about the rules for the road to be taken over from the county. Ive also read the same statements in newsletters for White Sands also. Storm runoff and road width along with a couple other details dictates if the county or state will maintain the road.

Why would I build in a neighborhood that has changed? Hmmm maybe because of the changes.. I only was in CRE years ago to do work on houses and thats it. You can not tell me that a ton has not changed with the community. Property values have increased and you can see a difference in how people take care of their homes I think now. Maybe its been more like 10 years but even you cannot tell me there have not been changes for the better. Granted Im sure there are other issues that have come with the changes but I think the area is definately heading in the right direction.

I will try to find the newsletters I read that explains how the county/state determines if they will maintain the roads.

 

[willie]

To tell you all the truth... I have been playing devils advocate with this situation for way too long.


Sometimes you have to play devils advocate to see what people really think and keeping this thread going as long as I have has been a real chore.... I'm glad it's finally at a place where it can stop.... Unless of course you all want to keep it going more....

So you were not an "honest" candidate after all?
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In common parlance, devil's advocate has come to mean a person who takes a position for the sake of argument. This practice is generally an instruction technique, whereby one person more experienced teaches another who is more novice to argue properly, taking in mind a position the latter doesn't know well or at all. This way, the depth of perspective of the arguer-to-be increases
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In this case the position of 'Novice' and 'more experienced' does not apply.

 

[residentofcre]

LOL where in here are you playing devils advocate. Im sorry I think you have lived in CRE way too long and have some type of private community complex. I have read a ton on CRE and as it was explained above the county would take over maintenance of the roads in CRE once they are brought up to specifications. If you want to stay a private community and like the quaint feel of dirt and gravel filled roads then stop #####ing about state or county funding.

As for the water and wells guess what. If the water company went away tomorrow another private enterprise would come in and run it or the the state/county would take it over. Since there are houses served by what we would consider community fed water I seriously doubt anyone would have to be putting in personal wells.

Our house is being built right now in CRE and some of the comments I have seen here are hilarious. CRE has made a massive change in the past say 5 years. When I used to come down there it was a dump in most parts. But as property values have increased the neighborhood has changed massively enough for us to be comfortable building a house in the community and plan to live there for a long time.

Welcome to the neighborhood. You will love it here. We have great beaches and I hear we're even working on Bingo again.... The hayrides are back this year and I hear there will be horror flicks showing on a 10X10 screen.... The Christmas party, New Years Eve Party are fun too.

While I am one of the people working on getting extra funding in the community, I can tell you that the County will probably never take over the maintenance of the roads. We do a great job in the winter and there have been plenty of times when our roads are much safer than the roads once we get out of the community.

So you're building in CRE... Have you been to ARC yet?

 

[Midnightrider]

Welcome to the neighborhood. You will love it here. We have great beaches and I hear we're even working on Bingo again.... The hayrides are back this year and I hear there will be horror flicks showing on a 10X10 screen.... The Christmas party, New Years Eve Party are fun too.

While I am one of the people working on getting extra funding in the community, I can tell you that the County will probably never take over the maintenance of the roads. We do a great job in the winter and there have been plenty of times when our roads are much safer than the roads once we get out of the community.

So you're building in CRE... Have you been to ARC yet?

so is this another issue you are just talking out your azz about?

and for gravel roads being better/safer- i'm loosing all respect for you, you are obviously clueless

 

[Sharon]

and for gravel roads being better/safer- i'm loosing all respect for you, you are obviously clueless

I don't think she said that, unless I missed it.

We were talking about snow removal on the roads.

 

[Midnightrider]

I don't think she said that, unless I missed it.

We were talking about snow removal on the roads.

I have also heard from most of the parents that the dirt roads are better because they hold down the speeders. When they get dry it's pretty dusty but that's not so bad.

but thanks for playing