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onel0126

Bead mumbler
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Chuckt

Guest
What you mean is that some people are going to get two non paid days off.
His visit isn't going to help a lot of people.
It is one big infomercial on the Pope that we will be forced to listen to.
We are already experiencing gridlock from 12 miles away.
People are going to be stuck in their homes.
Some people are going to be forced to pay for a parking permit for an event they are not going to attend. Other people in the city have to move their cars and towing has already begun. Those who live in the city have to move their cars and somehow have to get back to the city by taking other forms of transportation.
Pregnant women who have to give birth at area hospitals already have to make other contingency plans.
Some of the faithful will injure themselves trying to make the trip because natural injuries happen during walk a thons.
 

b23hqb

Well-Known Member

Are you about to expand your understanding of him and your theology as well, or are you just the expert? Remember, understanding does not, in many cases, equal agreement.

Should be a spectacle. The arrival of the papal machine always is a good show. Hope it goes smoothly with nothing crazy or harmful happening to all parties concerned.
 

onel0126

Bead mumbler
What you mean is that some people are going to get two non paid days off. His visit isn't going to help a lot of people. It is one big infomercial on the Pope that we will be forced to listen to. We are already experiencing gridlock from 12 miles away. People are going to be stuck in their homes. Some people are going to be forced to pay for a parking permit for an event they are not going to attend. Other people in the city have to move their cars and towing has already begun. Those who live in the city have to move their cars and somehow have to get back to the city by taking other forms of transportation. Pregnant women who have to give birth at area hospitals already have to make other contingency plans. Some of the faithful will injure themselves trying to make the trip because natural injuries happen during walk a thons.
Jealous much? Equating the Papal visit with a blizzard essentially. love it when you show your true colors. B23 will NEVER call you out--but the intellectually honest people do it regularly! All that aside, I hope you remember from your plethora of books you constantly tell us you have at your disposal--the Pope is also a head of state...
 

b23hqb

Well-Known Member
Jealous much? Equating the Papal visit with a blizzard essentially. love it when you show your true colors. B23 will NEVER call you out--but the intellectually honest people do it regularly! All that aside, I hope you remember from your plethora of books you constantly tell us you have at your disposal--the Pope is also a head of state...

You are such a whiner and wimp, onel. You are one that has severe issues and insecurities about your own beliefs. You demonstrate it constantly by your never ending so catholic christian like sarcasm, belittling, name-calling insults just because you don't like the overall message. I have seen a few catholics like you, and they seem to reside in the heart of American catholicism - Maryland. Get whatever chips you have on your shoulder off

As far as chuckie goes, biblically and scriptually he is correct. His delivery could use some work, and some of his followups do leave me questioning not his primary premise, but the direction it is being taken. Your and others problems with chuck is that the harsh truths of the Bible really hit non-believers right in the face.

You will just never get over any Christian that does not adhere to your catholic form of christianity. If people have to be like your sniveling, badgering, insulting self-flagellating being, that alone is reason for billions to not even look into your belief system.

Enjoy the papal orgasms that you're sure to experience.:buddies:
 

onel0126

Bead mumbler
You are such a whiner and wimp, onel. You are one that has severe issues and insecurities about your own beliefs. You demonstrate it constantly by your never ending so catholic christian like sarcasm, belittling, name-calling insults just because you don't like the overall message. I have seen a few catholics like you, and they seem to reside in the heart of American catholicism - Maryland. Get whatever chips you have on your shoulder off As far as chuckie goes, biblically and scriptually he is correct. His delivery could use some work, and some of his followups do leave me questioning not his primary premise, but the direction it is being taken. Your and others problems with chuck is that the harsh truths of the Bible really hit non-believers right in the face. You will just never get over any Christian that does not adhere to your catholic form of christianity. If people have to be like your sniveling, badgering, insulting self-flagellating being, that alone is reason for billions to not even look into your belief system. Enjoy the papal orgasms that you're sure to experience.:buddies:
What a Christian response. Some would say hypocritical with your name calling--what you accuse me of. Show me in scripture where leaderless churches existed like what you attend. Your assertion that people who have a problem with Chuck are non-believers is dishonest--like you, a liar. Still waiting for you and Chuck to backup your assertion the church teaches one can work their way out of hell.
 

cheezgrits

Thought pirate
I think it's important to understand the impact of what a Papal visit has. A head of state who also brings the message of a large church. He has a message and a means to impart it that an ordinary world leader doesn't. A few days of traffic is certainly worth the joy it will bring his followers, I suppose.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
I really don't remember this much hand wringing about traffic when Benedict visited and celebrated Mass at Nats Stadium.
 

seekeroftruth

Well-Known Member
I'm not usually a fan of the Pope.

I saw the report on 60 minutes Sunday night. He asked us to pray for him. Sincerely....Seriously....

I like the guy. I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say.

:coffee:
 

littlelady

God bless the USA

Radiant1

Soul Probe
There are always different sides to all subjects/topics. Thought these articles were interesting and, actually, eye opening in the respect that we can't keep up with history, and our actual lives. Too much stuff all the time.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/pope-francis-canonize-sainthood-Junipero-Serra/2015/01/16/id/619044/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/us/pope-francis-canonization-junipero-serra/index.html

There are more if anyone is interested in searching.

I read them. I'm not familiar with Serra, never heard of him actually, but I do know this -- saints are bastards of people and represent all aspects of humanity -- they are saints not because they particularly led a godly life throughout their years (although some did), but because at one point in time or another they sought a relationship with God. As for Serra, it seems to me you can't blame one man for the fact that Spaniards brought disease to the indigenous population, and apparently he spanked kids in the missions for misbehavior, well my parents did too. It wasn't that long ago that it was still considered an acceptable practice. People are products of the culture of the times, including us. Catholics have been around for 2000+ years, so it goes without saying that some saints may have done some things that some people find offensive today. Meh, big deal. :shrug:
 
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Chuckt

Guest
I think it's important to understand the impact of what a Papal visit has. A head of state who also brings the message of a large church. He has a message and a means to impart it that an ordinary world leader doesn't. A few days of traffic is certainly worth the joy it will bring his followers, I suppose.

Who is going to pay the hospitals back? They are renting shower trucks, renting cots and paying nurses and doctors to stay past their 12 hour shift which means they will be making $10 an hour for every hour they stay past their shift for the four day weekend.

Who cares about the children who can't go to school because of the Papal visit?
 
I think it's important to understand the impact of what a Papal visit has. A head of state who also brings the message of a large church. He has a message and a means to impart it that an ordinary world leader doesn't. A few days of traffic is certainly worth the joy it will bring his followers, I suppose.

"Love and Mercy" is the message. Trouble is, it comes with more than a few strings attached, and a suspension of reason.
 

cheezgrits

Thought pirate
Who is going to pay the hospitals back? They are renting shower trucks, renting cots and paying nurses and doctors to stay past their 12 hour shift which means they will be making $10 an hour for every hour they stay past their shift for the four day weekend.

Who cares about the children who can't go to school because of the Papal visit?

Nothing really different than any other big event in DC, except you, who hates Catholics, finding outrage over the Pope.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
My in laws are devout Catholics. They volunteer at The Shrine of the Immaculate Conception once a week. They attended the Mass today. I am happy for them. What a thrill for them and rare chance of a lifetime. I watched a lot of it; it really was beautiful. I know people were inconvenienced and it cost a fortune in security that taxpayers paid for, but it is what it is. My in laws always give us a poinsettia from the alter of the Christmas Mass every year. The one we get this year will be even more blessed. I will take all the blessings I can get. :smile:
 
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Chuckt

Guest
Nothing really different than any other big event in DC, except you, who hates Catholics, finding outrage over the Pope.

No. I don't hate Catholics. I think you are using the hate card for those who disagree which is wrong because that is manipulation. People who don't have any power or feel powerless usually use manipulation. People should be allowed to disagree. That is why people are afraid of helping others because people can accuse so you might find yourself in a nursing home one day with people being very very careful around you because you can accuse anyone at any time.

Megachurches do cause problems for residents and there are ordinances or special permissions needed to have a megachurch. Imagine taking 60 minutes to leave the parking lot and having volunteers place cones to show people where not to park. This is why townships have rules and cities should have rules in place before a Pope is allowed to visit.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
No. I don't hate Catholics. I think you are using the hate card for those who disagree which is wrong because that is manipulation. People who don't have any power or feel powerless usually use manipulation. People should be allowed to disagree. That is why people are afraid of helping others because people can accuse so you might find yourself in a nursing home one day with people being very very careful around you because you can accuse anyone at any time.

Megachurches do cause problems for residents and there are ordinances or special permissions needed to have a megachurch. Imagine taking 60 minutes to leave the parking lot and having volunteers place cones to show people where not to park. This is why townships have rules and cities should have rules in place before a Pope is allowed to visit.

What are you talking about? Like I said before your comments are very convoluted. JMO
 
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