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czygvtwkr

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Craftsman tools suck anyway, their top of the line Professional line are the only ones worth having and then aren't as good as Snap On, Husky, or Mac.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
New store name

they can call it S-Mart.

Shop smart, Shop S-Mart

What movie is that line from? :lmao:
 

willie

Well-Known Member
czygvtwkr said:
Craftsman tools suck anyway, their top of the line Professional line are the only ones worth having and then aren't as good as Snap On, Husky, or Mac.
Not so.
Snap on makes a good tool but you're paying at least double for the convenience of buying from the truck at your shop. Price a 4 wheel drive hub wrench and you will see the Snap on is over twice the price of Craftsman. Other tools are sold at Sears that are not labeled Craftsman but IMO are still good quality just not Craftsman. To the best of my knowledge, Craftsman has one line of tools and there are none better.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
kom526 said:
they can call it S-Mart.

Shop smart, Shop S-Mart

What movie is that line from? :lmao:
:killingme "Army of Darkenss" I love that movie!

"Alright you primitive screwheads, listen up. See this? This is my boomstick! It's a twelve gauge double barreled Remington, S-Mart's top-of-the-line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids Michigan. Retails for about $109.95. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop Smart. Shop S-mart. Ya got that?!"
 

HORUS

Better than YOU.
czygvtwkr said:
Craftsman tools suck anyway, their top of the line Professional line are the only ones worth having and then aren't as good as Snap On, Husky, or Mac.


:yeahthat: :yeahthat:
 

Beener

New Member
sleuth said:
The GF has been looking for a woman's toolset. She found some online that come with pink handles. :yay: :lmao:

Why don't you just give her yours? It's probably as womanly as you're going to find.
 

HORUS

Better than YOU.
willie said:
Not so.
Snap on makes a good tool but you're paying at least double for the convenience of buying from the truck at your shop. Price a 4 wheel drive hub wrench and you will see the Snap on is over twice the price of Craftsman. Other tools are sold at Sears that are not labeled Craftsman but IMO are still good quality just not Craftsman. To the best of my knowledge, Craftsman has one line of tools and there are none better.

EEEEEEE... Wrong! :tool: sorry..... Craftsman has two lines of craftsman tools. the original Craftsman and the Craftsman Professional line. Guess which one cost more. However. You are correct regarding Snap-on. I'd still say that both Husky and Mac tools are cheaper and better than both.... JMO :cheers:
 

ylexot

Super Genius
I've been happy with Kobalt stuff so far. Not sure how they rank on the cost vs. quality debate though.
 

willie

Well-Known Member
HORUS said:
EEEEEEE... Wrong! :tool: sorry..... Craftsman has two lines of craftsman tools. the original Craftsman and the Craftsman Professional line. Guess which one cost more. However. You are correct regarding Snap-on. I'd still say that both Husky and Mac tools are cheaper and better than both.... JMO :cheers:
Are we talking hand tools or power? There is a big difference in the Industrial power tools and the regular Craftsman and neither have a lifetime guarantee like (as far as I know) the hand tools. The only hand tools I see with a "Professional" designation appears to be cosmetic only. How many Craftsman tools have you broken? I have boken a 13/16th plug socket and a 1/2" ratchet under severe abuse and that has been it. Mac tools are not cheaper than Craftsman but from what I have seen, they are good reliable tools with a large selection. Husky and Kobalt might have a good selection for Tony Stewart and the Lowes team but not for the rest of us. If you want to say the sockets from Barb's Tools or Black and Decker "sucks" then I would say you probably have had first hand experience with them but when you say Craftsman tools suck, I think you have some other agenda.
 

Tomcat

Anytime
Heard on the radio last night that each would carry the others brand names. K-Mart would carry Craftsman, Kenmore etc. and Sears would carry Martha Stewart, Rt.66 etc. :blahblah:
 
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czygvtwkr

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willie said:
Are we talking hand tools or power? There is a big difference in the Industrial power tools and the regular Craftsman and neither have a lifetime guarantee like (as far as I know) the hand tools. The only hand tools I see with a "Professional" designation appears to be cosmetic only. How many Craftsman tools have you broken? I have boken a 13/16th plug socket and a 1/2" ratchet under severe abuse and that has been it. Mac tools are not cheaper than Craftsman but from what I have seen, they are good reliable tools with a large selection. Husky and Kobalt might have a good selection for Tony Stewart and the Lowes team but not for the rest of us. If you want to say the sockets from Barb's Tools or Black and Decker "sucks" then I would say you probably have had first hand experience with them but when you say Craftsman tools suck, I think you have some other agenda.


Of course i have another agenda, I have had nothing but trouble with their screw drivers. The Phillips are just slightly misshapen, you cant tell until you go to get out a screw that has been painted over (like on a military aircraft) and the craftsman just cams out where the snap on bites good enough to get the screw out. I have also had problems with the hardened tip on the straight slots breaking off right where it transitions to the standard tool steel shank.
 

Cletus_Vandam

New Member
Snap-On versus Mac versus Craftsman

I have had experience with all three of these manufacturers from a hand tool and pneumatic standpoint. I place Snap-On at the top of the list for quality and durability. But just like everything in life, you have to pay more to get more. You don’t have to buy from a truck, they also sell on line. They aren’t cheap, but owning the best shouldn’t be cheap or inexpensive.

Another very good tool manufacturer out there is Matco. My brother-in-law leant me a set of 3/8” drive flex head pneumatic sockets that were nothing short of awesome. Matco uses a splined section to connect the socket to the drive portion and they are virtually indestructible, not to mention that they are ten times smoother to use than the conventional double jointed universal that other sockets of this type typically use.

Mac Tools are great too, they are right up ther with Snap-On. I own several different pieces from them from a timing light to sockets.

SK wrenches are fine.

One department that no one has brought up yet is the gear driven ratchet wrenches. I recently bought a set of Gear Wrenches and they are very nice.

Personally, I have broken several Craftsman tools, wrenches, sockets, had flex head ratchets fall apart, a gambit of problems. Going back to what I said earlier… You get what you pay for. I don’t turn wrenches for a living (did that, don’t do it any longer) but I shy away from Craftsman, simply from the perspective that I value my hands and knuckles, not to mention I think Bob Villa is an A$$.
 
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