Tithing...

[PJay]

Hey Pastor, how did Jacob, the grandson of Abraham, the father of the faithful, give a tithe to God?

I saw that..how many ID's do you have?

 

[awpitt]

Very interesting thread here. I have to say I do agree with giving to a church. I do not agree with the whole 10% of your income... When I go to church I give $5 to them.. it's not that I am trying to be cheap. I just don't have 10% of my income to give.. I wish I could give more but can't...I know that the churches does do good with the money. My main Question is how much does the Pastor make?? And does he give back to the church or does his service of preaching to us counts as him giving back. :shrug:

Everyone seems to be focusing on 10% of ones’ income as if we’re paying taxes. I believe tithing should be 10% of your worth which means if you don’t have the $$s to give; contribute your time and talents to the church or other good cause. Remember ones’ faith is based on their personal relationship with God. That relationship may or may not involve a man made religion or church.

 

[ehr543]

he swore to God to give a tenth to him and that meant that he gave like his father's father abraham did. which he gave it to the high priest of God Melchizedek

 

[2ndAmendment]

thats what happens when you forget your password

Carrying on a conversation with your own MPD is really crazy. You may want to see someone about that.

 

[2ndAmendment]

The original Tithe wasnt money (according to the Bible) it was a Tenth of "Goods"

• The tithe comes from the "land," not the air or the sea. Fishermen were not required to tithe fish.
• It was the "seed" or agricultural products from the fields that was holy to God and tithable.
• Products from "trees" were to be tithed. This not only included the fruit, but oils, etc.
• Of "herds or flocks" it was the "tenth" that passed under the rod that was holy and dedicated to God.

If a sheppard/herdsmen only nine cattle, he didn’t have to tithe (read Leviticus 27:32 again). Also God did not require the best of the cattle, just the tenth one to pass under the rod even if it was the scrawniest.

You may want to research that some more.

Leviticus 1:14
'But if his offering to the LORD is a burnt offering of birds, then he shall bring his offering from the turtledoves or from young pigeons.

 

[ehr543]

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that [there shall] not [be room] enough [to receive it]. the scripture above is what God wants done with his tithes it is up to the people to believe him ( by faith ) God does not need yours or my money he owns everything already he even owns our lives but he wants us to serve and give tithes to him of our free will.

 

[Marie]

Do you? If so, how much of your income?

The reason I ask is that as Catholics, we do give to the church. But, not a percentage of our income or anything like that. My sister, however, belongs to some born again Christian church in Accokeek...and she had me drop off checks to them twice during December and January. When I saw the amounts...well...

I do 10% of my take home because thats all I can afford. Recently though I FINALLY heard a preacher say that if you have credit card debt, thats not managable like you can only make Min payment you have no bussiness tighing because its not your money that your giving away its the credit card companys and you need to get your finances in order and then start tighing. He made it clear that you wernt to use that as an excuse and keep charging things but how dumb it was trying to tigh when you dont have it. Your supose to give from the heart because you want to give. If your giving and grumling or its causing you finical hardship your not honoring God that way. Of course a prosberty preacher will tell you other wise.

 

[Starman3000m]

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that [there shall] not [be room] enough [to receive it]. the scripture above is what God wants done with his tithes it is up to the people to believe him ( by faith ) God does not need yours or my money he owns everything already he even owns our lives but he wants us to serve and give tithes to him of our free will.

Hmmm...if you really, I mean really, read the entire context of the scripture quoted, you will find that God was not speaking to the people; He was chastising the religious leaders of that time because they were misusing the tithes and offerings that the people were bringing to them. (Much like today)

The priests were holding back the best of offerings for their own use and consumption and God disappoved of it. Please read the book of Malachai in its complete context and then you will understand.

New Testament tithing is for one to give willfully from the goodness of their heart and not out of obligation and it is not limited to nor exacted at 10%.

Yes, this is contrary to what preachers of mega-churches would say from the pulpit but then consider the lifestyle many of them have compared to the lifestyle of the congregants who are "supporting" the religious leaders. God would tell many of those preachers of today that they are robbing God of the tithes and offerings that are supposed to be helping the people in need and not the needs of the leaders and the board of directors of the church.

Truly, many religions have turned God's House into a den of thieves.

 

[Radiant1]

Tithing is something I have always had a problem with. Though they still participate in our family traditions, my parents converted to Christianity a few years ago. The Southern Baptist church to be exact. And they faithfully tithe 10% of their $180,000 annual income to their church. I think $18,000 a year is a ridiculous amount of my inheritance to tithe away. And for what? :shrug: So their preacher and church gets richer. :shrug:

I don't get it.

My father left the Baptist church when they told him he wasn't giving enough, which was substantial to begin with. He gave 'em something then, his finger, heh.

 

[nhboy]

Do you? If so, how much of your income?

The reason I ask is that as Catholics, we do give to the church. But, not a percentage of our income or anything like that. My sister, however, belongs to some born again Christian church in Accokeek...and she had me drop off checks to them twice during December and January. When I saw the amounts...well...

This is not meant to be a defense of Protestant tithing nor an attack on the Catholic method of supporting their church.

I don't know if the Roman Catholic church in the U.S. is still doing this but at one time they KNEW the income of their parishoners and would advise them by mail, based on that information, what their "fair share" should be. They also provided envelopes for EACH family member. I believe these envelopes were numbered sequentially which would allow them to track family donations.

Another practice was a campaign aimed at Catholic children to solicit funds for African (not Afro-American) children. This may have been a way to teach children charity. I later learned that these funds were NOT sent to Africa but used to operate the parrish.

Do you think the amounts were too much or too little? I would hope that your sister's tithing is a choice she made freely and can afford it. If you consider the amounts too high, is this harming herself and/or her family? That would not be good.

Its nice that you did your sister a favor by dropping off her tithe,but have you addressed this issue of the amounts with her? Would she endorse having this information/opinion discussed in a more or less public forum?

As to your question, I do not donate to "a church" but do donate to charities of my choice, some of them operated by churches of various demnominations.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I do 10% of my take home because thats all I can afford. Recently though I FINALLY heard a preacher say that if you have credit card debt, thats not managable like you can only make Min payment you have no bussiness tighing because its not your money that your giving away its the credit card companys and you need to get your finances in order and then start tighing. He made it clear that you wernt to use that as an excuse and keep charging things but how dumb it was trying to tigh when you dont have it. Your supose to give from the heart because you want to give. If your giving and grumling or its causing you finical hardship your not honoring God that way. Of course a prosberty preacher will tell you other wise.

I disagree with your pastor; it is "feel good" preaching. The tithe was the first tenth not the last or what you could spare after everything else was paid.

 

[Starman3000m]

Well look at that, we agree on something. if you didnt alreadyclick here

Hope you don't mind me saying this but... AMEN BRO!

Fact is, most "religious" proclamations, traditions, rituals and legalistic obligations imposed upon gullible and intimidated congregants are not from God but are imposed by self-serving religious leaders.
(Yes, you can quote me on that) lol