Toddlers drown in pond while babysitter naps

sockgirl77

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Nickel said:
So if your house was on fire, he'd be trapped inside. :eyebrow:
No. He'd have me or his father to open the door for him. Same as the babies would. They cannot open the door either. :yay:
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
sockgirl77 said:
No. He'd have me or his father to open the door for him. Same as the babies would. They cannot open the door either. :yay:
Accidents do happen, and it's not implausible to assume that you or his father would be incapacitated. :shrug: Now's a good age to start teaching him what to do in case of a fire. :yay:
 

sockgirl77

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Nickel said:
Accidents do happen, and it's not implausible to assume that you or his father would be incapacitated. :shrug: Now's a good age to start teaching him what to do in case of a fire. :yay:
So, how should I teach the babies to get out of the house during a fire? :rolleyes:
 

vraiblonde

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smoothmarine187 said:
but the baby sitter was being PAID to watch the kids!
You are such a friggin' reactionary and real quick to point a finger.

The babysitter was a relative of one of the little girls - the other little girl was a neighbor kid. Accidents happen and it doesn't necessarily have to be anyone's fault.
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
sockgirl77 said:
So, how should I teach the babies to get out of the house during a fire? :rolleyes:
If you think it's irrational to teach a three year old fire safety, that's your deal, not mine. Should you not teach him to swim until the babies can too?
 

sockgirl77

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Nickel said:
If you think it's irrational to teach a three year old fire safety, that's your deal, not mine. Should you not teach him to swim until the babies can too?
I did not say that. We've already done the Stop Drop And Roll training. He has been told to come and get Mommy or Daddy in case of a fire. If that is not possible, scream. He still has a monitor in his room. They had a fire safety night at school. :yay:
 

smoothmarine187

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vraiblonde said:
You are such a friggin' reactionary and real quick to point a finger.

The babysitter was a relative of one of the little girls - the other little girl was a neighbor kid. Accidents happen and it doesn't necessarily have to be anyone's fault.

She had a job to do, and she didn't do it. It's as clear as day to me. That is the problem with society these days, everyone is worried about hurting other people's feelings. If no one takes the blame for anything, we would all just be a bunch of wild animals.
 

Nickel

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sockgirl77 said:
I did not say that. We've already done the Stop Drop And Roll training. He has been told to come and get Mommy or Daddy in case of a fire. If that is not possible, scream. He still has a monitor in his room. They had a fire safety night at school. :yay:
Okay. :shrug: If you don't think that covering all your bases and considering every scenario is important, then I'm not going to argue with you about it.
 

sockgirl77

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Nickel said:
Okay. :shrug: If you don't think that covering all your bases and considering every scenario is important, then I'm not going to argue with you about it.
Do you even read my posts before you start your babbling? I posted that all bases are covered. :yay:
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
sockgirl77 said:
Do you even read my posts before you start your babbling? I posted that all bases are covered. :yay:
:rolleyes:

Your posts say that if your house catches fire, your son should come get you, or scream. What if, God forbid something has happened to you? A very important part of fire safety is the escape route. You can stop drop and roll til you wear a hole in your carpet, but you're still inside a burning house. Getting huffy because someone suggests you think outside your box is a little silly, don't you think? I'm not criticizing you, I'm just making a suggestion. If something were to happen to me, I'd want my son to be able to get out of the house on his own, which is why we taught him what to do. :shrug:

I'm done.
 

sockgirl77

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Nickel said:
:rolleyes:

Your posts say that if your house catches fire, your son should come get you, or scream. What if, God forbid something has happened to you? A very important part of fire safety is the escape route. You can stop drop and roll til you wear a hole in your carpet, but you're still inside a burning house. Getting huffy because someone suggests you think outside your box is a little silly, don't you think? I'm not criticizing you, I'm just making a suggestion. If something were to happen to me, I'd want my son to be able to get out of the house on his own, which is why we taught him what to do. :shrug:

I'm done.
So, I should leave the key in the door so he can get out? There is no way to be prepared for everything. I do the best I can. He knows where the doors are. Unfortunately, I cannot leave them open or unlocked so he can get out easily. He's not even 3 yet so having the whole fire safety convo with him was half way a joke. He had more fun rolling around on the floor laughing. At his age, he has no clue what a fire even is. :shrug:
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
smoothmarine187 said:
She had a job to do, and she didn't do it. It's as clear as day to me. That is the problem with society these days, everyone is worried about hurting other people's feelings. If no one takes the blame for anything, we would all just be a bunch of wild animals.

I would generally agree with that stance, but in this case you can't really blame the babysitter. I don't know the circumstances in which they got out but maybe if the babysitter left doors open or unlocked that she knew were suppose to be closed/locked then you could assign blame to her.

Maybe the parents should of had more measures in place to ensure a couple toddlers couldn't escape from the home too so maybe they should take some blame. I know I keep everything locked up real tight when I have my little boy home alone, all parents know that when they are that age it is no telling what they can get into.
 
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smoothmarine187

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AK-74me said:
I would generally agree with that stance, but in this case you can't really blame the babysitter. I don't know the circumstances in which they got out but maybe if the babysitter left doors open or unlocked that she knew were suppose to be closed/locked then you could assign blame to her.

Maybe the parents should of had more measures in place to ensure a couple toddlers couldn't escape from the home too so maybe they should take some blame. I know I keep everything locked up real tight when I have my little boy home alone, all parents know that when they are that age it is no telling what they can get into.

It was the babysitters job to watch the kids, not fall asleep. Do you fall asleep on your job?
 

Kerad

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sockgirl77 said:
So, I should leave the key in the door so he can get out? There is no way to be prepared for everything. I do the best I can. He knows where the doors are. Unfortunately, I cannot leave them open or unlocked so he can get out easily. He's not even 3 yet so having the whole fire safety convo with him was half way a joke. He had more fun rolling around on the floor laughing. At his age, he has no clue what a fire even is. :shrug:
I didn't intend for my comment to turn into what it has. I just mentioned it because that's where my train of thought took me after I read the story.

"What could have been done to prevent this...besides keeping the babysitter awake? Deadbolts on the doors. Yeah, but kids can open deadbolts after a certain age. Deadbolts requiring a key from the inside. Yeah, that works...but what if there's an intruder, or a fire where everyone needs to get out fast without fumbling around with a key in the dark."

My conversation with myself lead me to it's logical conclusion (besides that I'm crazy)...that no matter what you do, you can't anticipate a solution to everything that may happen. And you certainly can't be paranoid over how every little event in in life could lead to disaster.
 

sockgirl77

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smoothmarine187 said:
:smack: That's it, I'm not telling you what I thought about Desperate Housewives and I'm erasing your name from yahoo messenger :buttkick:
Don't forget to delete her as a myspace friend too. :yay:
 
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