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[GURPS]

A new report reveals that 53 transgender people were killed in the US in the last year, which saw a marked increase in anti-trans legislation and rhetoric.

Lying disingenuous Hack .....


The majority of Trans Murders were NOT because of some hatred of a person for their lifestyle








Insider spent 18 months investigating 175 killings of transgender people. Here's what we found.

• Killings of trans people in the US doubled from 2019 to 2021, as anti-trans laws and rhetoric rose.
• Many of the victims were killed by spouses, partners, boyfriends, housemates, dates, or clients.
• Only 28 in 175 cases Insider examined led to murder convictions; one led to a hate-crime conviction.

How the Trans Murder Spectacle Perpetuates Myths About Justice

Focusing on individual murderers and their incarceration will never prevent the murder of trans people or promote justice.

truthout.org

This piece will prove the falseness of these three myths specifically in the context of the United States, using data from 2012 to 2016. In many other places, including Brazil and Jamaica, the situation is different because trans people are often killed by police officers themselves. But looking specifically at the situation in the United States reveals an important reality: Even when police and prosecutors are doing everything “right,” their goal is not to protect and serve, but rather to incarcerate, repress and terrorize.

Focusing on individual murderers and their incarceration will never prevent the murder of trans people. Instead, we should be uprooting the transphobic ideas that pervade corporate policy, the dominant media, public policy, religion and workplaces.

While some murders of trans people are random attacks by bigots, most murders are related to domestic or sexual violence, similar to most murders of cisgender women. Thus studying the copious statistics on how the police and prosecutors handle domestic violence murders of cis women will help reveal how much the criminal legal system could or could not help prevent the murder of trans people — even if they were to “do their jobs.”

While total intimate partner violence has decreased over the past couple of decades, it has increased as a percentage of the total violent crime committed. The rate fluctuates only minimally over the past few years, even as total violent crime keeps a steady course downward.

I don't think there any more trans murders in the past 5 yrs, but due to political pressure from the Trans Mafia murders are reclassified

 

[Kyle]

Lying disingenuous Hack .....


The majority of Trans Murders were NOT because of some hatred of a person for their lifestyle

I don't think there any more trans murders in the past 5 yrs, but due to political pressure from the Trans Mafia murders are reclassified

They're certainly commiting more murders than their fair share here lately.

Everytime you turn around theres anther he-she mental case shooting, stabbing or phyically attacking someone, mostly children, in the news.

 

[SamSpade]

I'm not convinced that statistically speaking, there's enough relevant data to determine anything --

To simplify -

We have roughly 330 million persons in this country.
Transgenders represent about 0.52% of the population, and the concentrations are not evenly distributed -
Half of them are in about 10 states.

We have roughly 22000 to 25000 murders per year.
If transgenders represent even as high as 1% of those figures - and the murders are evenly distributed - you'd expect a number in the hundreds.
Not a few dozen.

Now, homicide numbers don't always work like that - for example, a HUGE portion of homicides are gun deaths related to drugs.
Some populations are more likely to be IN those homicide numbers - homicide is not randomly distributed.
What I am saying is, the numbers themselves don't tell a rise in attacks due to hatred or prejudice. We just don't have those figures.

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

A new report reveals that 53 transgender people were killed in the US in the last year, which saw a marked increase in anti-trans legislation and rhetoric.

Notably, while these numbers from the National Center for Transgender Equality’s (NCTE) annual remembrance report have grown since last year, some experts say that the real number of lives lost is probably higher due to the difficulties in accurate reporting and data within the trans community.


“It is no coincidence that we are seeing anti-trans violence rise at the same time as we’re seeing anti-trans legislation rise,” said Rodrigo Heng-Lehtinen, the executive director at the NCTE. “Every year from 2020 to today, we have broken the record … of anti-transgender bills ever introduced.”

Transgender deaths in US on rise with increase in anti-trans laws, report shows

Annual report from National Center for Transgender Equality shows grim statistics by race and gender

www.theguardian.com

53 trans killed in a year..huh.. how many killed themselves I wonder? What about the black people. Far more than 53 of them are killed in a weekend. Where’s the outrage? It appears there is far more anti-black violence perpetrated by blacks in this country.

 

[Kyle]

I'm not convinced that statistically speaking, there's enough relevant data to determine anything --

To simplify -

We have roughly 330 million persons in this country.
Transgenders represent about 0.52% of the population, and the concentrations are not evenly distributed -
Half of them are in about 10 states.

That number is probably way lower than that by several decimal places.

 

[StmarysCity79]

53 trans killed in a year..huh.. how many killed themselves I wonder? What about the black people. Far more than 53 of them are killed in a weekend. Where’s the outrage? It appears there is far more anti-black violence perpetrated by blacks in this country.

Or maybe there are many more black people than trans people.

It's funny to see you prove over and over how dumb you are.

 

[Kyle]

Or maybe there are many more black people than trans people.

It's funny to see you prove over and over how dumb you are.

You pegged the Irony meter again Corky.

 

[SamSpade]

That number is probably way lower than that by several decimal places.

[shrug] I have no idea. When it comes to sexual preference, reliable numbers for the population has never been great, but it's improving for gays and lesbians. Some time ago, the number for gay men was "One in TEN" - based on the Kinsey study in the 40's - which sampled PRISON populations - meaning, you can't get meaningful percentages, because the prisons are not representative of the nation.

Gay men are more and more likely to be out and identify themselves, get married and so forth, so the numbers are improving. Gay male percentage is closer to 1.4%, which correlates well to other gathered statistics.

That is still a small percentage. As many gay men as there are - it would surprise me that transgenders would be a much as a THIRD of that number.
Gay and lesbian acquaintances I've known TEND to have less than favorable attitudes towards trans - leading me to think the number IS smaller, a fraction of the total LGBTQ population.

But - again - hard to get good data.

 

[GURPS]

how many killed themselves I wonder?

from what I have read most of the trans murders are domestic partners ..... but finding the information is damn difficult, the only reports to be found revolve around this HRC Report and the rise of ' extremism '


which is ANY opposition to the Trans Mafia narrative

 

[SamSpade]

from what I have read most of the trans murders are domestic partners ....

And as THOSE populations have increased - modestly - so will the other statistics. That is - as there exists more domestic partnerships - the cases of violence will grow along with them.

I'm cautious always with drawing conclusions from numbers alone - an increase in homicides does not prove an increase in hate crimes. There needs to be more supporting evidence. We have the famous case of the gruesome death of Matthew Shepard - widely regarded as one of the first hate crimes against gay men - but all evidence points to a drug deal gone bad - he was dealing meth. But - to this day - his death is misrepresented, because - well why ELSE would drug dealers kill someone?

We can't use our conjectures as "fact". They're suppositions until proven. I do think a really reasonable conjecture is never out of the question, but we just don't have the data.

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

Or maybe there are many more black people than trans people.

It's funny to see you prove over and over how dumb you are.

So black people aren’t important just because there are more of them? What makes trans people more important?

 

[GURPS]

We have the famous case of the gruesome death of Matthew Shepard - widely regarded as one of the first hate crimes against gay men - but all evidence points to a drug deal gone bad - he was dealing meth. But - to this day - his death is misrepresented, because - well why ELSE would drug dealers kill someone?

Gay Mafia needs Martyrs

 

[StmarysCity79]

So black people aren’t important just because there are more of them? What makes trans people more important?

Are you brain dead?

You said more black people die than trans people and I explained it's because there are more black thus more deaths.

How can you be this stupid?

 

[WingsOfGold]

Then how come you guys keep attacking them?

There is literally a thread here called "Budweiser, what are you doing" and pages of pages of misogny and anti trans jokes just because they hired a trans spokesperson.

You are such a fuc**** liar.

Nut cases are vulnerable.......... well because they're nuts.

 

[vraiblonde]

misogny

"dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women."

You know these are men, right? As in people with penises? Not women?

By definition you can't be misogynistic against a man. And the Budweiser guy is a man only pretending to be a woman.

You understand that, right? Or no?

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

"dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women."

You know these are men, right? As in people with penises? Not women?

By definition you can't be misogynistic against a man. And the Budweiser guy is a man only pretending to be a woman.

You understand that, right? Or no?

Can one be misogynistic against a woman that has a prostate? Just asking for clarification.

 

[vraiblonde]

For your consideration ...



Can one be misogynistic against a woman that has a prostate? Just asking for clarification.

Trick question. Women don't have prostates.

 

[Kyle]

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

Are you brain dead?

You said more black people die than trans people and I explained it's because there are more black thus more deaths.

How can you be this stupid?

I know what you said you imbecile, what my reply stated is you think trans are more important than black people. everyone on here has to explain e everything to you. You have zero comprehension abilities. Your 7th grade education is on display. Take your dunce cap off every now and then.

 

[StmarysCity79]

I know what you said you imbecile, what my reply stated is you think trans are more important than black people. everyone on here has to explain e everything to you. You have zero comprehension abilities. Your 7th grade education is on display. Take your dunce cap off every now and then.

So the old BLM argument?

Why must you be victimized by everything?

If someone says Black Lives are worth defending that doesnt mean White lives are not.

Why does everything threaten and scare you even if it has nothing to do with you?