TCROW
Well-Known Member
So, no one should have to show ID to vote?
Please try to stay on topic.
So, no one should have to show ID to vote?
It is on topic. Showing ID is a warrantless seizure, or it is not. Which is it when you do it for voting?Please try to stay on topic.
There's absolutely no reason to not identify oneself, in my view.
The best I can give to that is, "depends".Where does that end? In the thread I posted yesterday, a passenger in a car refused to give his ID. Should he be required to do so?
It is on topic. Showing ID is a warrantless seizure, or it is not. Which is it when you do it for voting?Please try to stay on topic.
The best I can give to that is, "depends".
In my opinion, yes, there are reasons to demand an ID of a passenger. For example, there's a resemblance from a credible witness' description of a suspect in a crime, then it's justifiable. If there is a belief by the officers (for good reason) that the driver is in peril (the passenger is seeming in some way threatening to the driver, implying the driver is not in control of his/her own actions), then yes. If the driver and passenger are both heading into a restricted area that demands ID to enter, then yes.
If the officer pulls a driver over for speeding, or tail-light out, or something like that, and there's no reason to question the passenger, then no there's no good reason to ask for the passenger's ID.
To be clear, the default is that you shouldn't have to unless there is a reason to.Goctah. That's about how I feel as well. So to be clear, there is at least one reason not identify oneself?
Still waiting on an answer to this.It is on topic. Showing ID is a warrantless seizure, or it is not. Which is it when you do it for voting?Please try to stay on topic.
Still waiting on an answer to this.