PeoplesElbow
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Where did he take them from?
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PeoplesElbow
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Is it your acseration that he snuck back into the white house while Biden was president and stole the documents?
It is well documented that he took his ball and went home before Biden was sworn in. This is a move that I did not like and thought it showed pettiness. But he was still president up until Biden was sworn in. So when did he take the documents?
Trump to leave Washington on morning of Biden's inauguration
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will leave Washington next Wednesday morning just before President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration to begin his post-presidential life in Florida.
LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
The N.Y Grand Jury only needs to think they have reasonable cause to believe a crime has been committed, and only needs 12 of its 23 members to think this, in order to make an indictment. Remember, there is no Judge in the room ... and no defense .... and the entire grand jury proceeding is essentially controlled by the prosecutor. It is the prosecutor, who decides what evidence to present, picks the witnesses to testify, and instructs the jurors on the law.
When the prosecutor makes their presentations to the grand jury .... there is absolutely no one witnessing it .. who may object to what the prosecutor does, or says .... nor, if the prosecutor incorrectly explains the law, nor, if the evidence shown is valid, or not.
Everyone knows, as a former top judge in New York once stated, a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich!
Now, Mr. Soros puppet D.A., make your formal charges and prove them beyond a doubt in a court, where a defense may examine and cross ... and a jury needs to meet a much higher standard ... than the normal morons on a grand jury.
The N.Y Grand Jury only needs to think they have reasonable cause to believe a crime has been committed, and only needs 12 of its 23 members to think this, in order to make an indictment. Remember, there is no Judge in the room ... and no defense .... and the entire grand jury proceeding is essentially controlled by the prosecutor. It is the prosecutor, who decides what evidence to present, picks the witnesses to testify, and instructs the jurors on the law.
When the prosecutor makes their presentations to the grand jury .... there is absolutely no one witnessing it .. who may object to what the prosecutor does, or says .... nor, if the prosecutor incorrectly explains the law, nor, if the evidence shown is valid, or not.
Everyone knows, as a former top judge in New York once stated, a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich!
Now, Mr. Soros puppet D.A., make your formal charges and prove them beyond a doubt in a court, where a defense may examine and cross ... and a jury needs to meet a much higher standard ... than the normal morons on a grand jury.
Bare-ya-cuda
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Famed attorney Alan Dershowitz, who represented Trump in his first impeachment trial, told Fox News that “any first-year student could win this case if the name wasn’t Donald Trump and if it wasn’t in Manhattan.” Dershowitz added that the case “has to get out of Manhattan.”
“I would try to move it to Staten Island or some upstate venue. But could you imagine a judge or a juror coming home to their wife and family and friends and saying, ‘I’m the man, I’m the woman who let Donald Trump off.’ Nobody would ever speak to them again. … There’s no possibility he can get a fair trial in Manhattan,” Dershowitz said.
Scott Greenfield, a defense attorney in New York who is no fan of Trump, told The Daily Wire that it was impossible to truly comment on the indictment until it is unsealed.
“But if the indictment is what has been discussed and what’s expected, there are serious doubts the case will survive a motion to dismiss or result in a conviction,” Greenfield added.
William A. Jacobson, a Cornell law professor and founder of the conservative legal blog Legal Insurrection, echoed these sentiments, saying that “unless there is some surprise, this appears to be a politically-motivated legally-questionable resurrection of stale misdemeanor charges bootstrapped into a felony using a highly unusual legal theory.”
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“I would try to move it to Staten Island or some upstate venue. But could you imagine a judge or a juror coming home to their wife and family and friends and saying, ‘I’m the man, I’m the woman who let Donald Trump off.’ Nobody would ever speak to them again. … There’s no possibility he can get a fair trial in Manhattan,” Dershowitz said.
Scott Greenfield, a defense attorney in New York who is no fan of Trump, told The Daily Wire that it was impossible to truly comment on the indictment until it is unsealed.
“But if the indictment is what has been discussed and what’s expected, there are serious doubts the case will survive a motion to dismiss or result in a conviction,” Greenfield added.
William A. Jacobson, a Cornell law professor and founder of the conservative legal blog Legal Insurrection, echoed these sentiments, saying that “unless there is some surprise, this appears to be a politically-motivated legally-questionable resurrection of stale misdemeanor charges bootstrapped into a felony using a highly unusual legal theory.”
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PeoplesElbow
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I guess you are not going to answer how he took them after he was no longer president and in Florida already when Biden was sworn in. He was president up until Biden was sworn in.
Do you stand by the statement that he took them after he was no longer president?
Expect deflection, counter accusations, lies and innuendo ... oh and insults and questions about your moral stance on [ insert fact / distraction ]
StmarysCity79
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You are missing the point. It doesn't matter when he took them. What matters is he had them in his possession and was no longer president. The FBI tried for months to get him to return them and he refused,
There is now a separate investigation in to Trumps mishandling of these docuemnts.
"The Justice Department and FBI found new evidence of possible obstruction by the GOP firebrand tied to their investigation into classified documents recovered at Mar-a-Lago last year, the Washington Post reported Sunday.
After Trump’s advisors received a subpoena in May demanding the records back, the 76-year-old ex-commander-in-chief leafed through some of the boxes of top-secret government documents in an apparent effort to keep certain things in his possession, according to the report, which cited people familiar with the probe."
nvestigators also have evidence that indicates Trump told others to mislead government officials in early 2022 – before the May subpoena – when the National Archives and Records Administration was working to get back documents from Trump’s time in the White House, the Washington Post reported.
DOJ has more evidence of possible Trump obstruction in classified docs probe: report
The Justice Department and FBI found new evidence of possible obstruction by the GOP firebrand tied to their investigation into classified documents recovered at Mar-a-Lago last year, the Washingto…
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StmarysCity79
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is the highlight of everyones day.
Context Matters ...
PeoplesElbow
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So you lied or didn't know what you were talking about? Which one was it?You are missing the point. It doesn't matter when he took them. What matters is he had them in his possession and was no longer president. The FBI tried for months to get him to return them and he refused,
There is now a separate investigation in to Trumps mishandling of these docuemnts.
"The Justice Department and FBI found new evidence of possible obstruction by the GOP firebrand tied to their investigation into classified documents recovered at Mar-a-Lago last year, the Washington Post reported Sunday.
After Trump’s advisors received a subpoena in May demanding the records back, the 76-year-old ex-commander-in-chief leafed through some of the boxes of top-secret government documents in an apparent effort to keep certain things in his possession, according to the report, which cited people familiar with the probe."
nvestigators also have evidence that indicates Trump told others to mislead government officials in early 2022 – before the May subpoena – when the National Archives and Records Administration was working to get back documents from Trump’s time in the White House, the Washington Post reported.
DOJ has more evidence of possible Trump obstruction in classified docs probe: report
The Justice Department and FBI found new evidence of possible obstruction by the GOP firebrand tied to their investigation into classified documents recovered at Mar-a-Lago last year, the Washingto…
Oh so Trump isn't allowed to check the contents of the boxes ?
Had his clearance been revoked ?
Both
StmarysCity79
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Neither you were the one who made up a story about Trump sneaking into the WH after he left.
I said he was in possession of documents he was not authorized to have.
You made up an entire conversation and scenario in your head based on your ignorance of the situation.
Grumpy
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Victor Hansen
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Indict One—And All? › American Greatness
As we await the publication of all the impending indictments of former President Donald Trump by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, Americans are trying to figure out what constitutes an…
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StmarysCity79
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Victor Hansen
Indict One—And All? › American Greatness
As we await the publication of all the impending indictments of former President Donald Trump by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, Americans are trying to figure out what constitutes an…
So the lesson is don't commit crimes.
Got it