Trump rehearsed speech where he falsely claimed victory and voter fraud 4 days before election.

SamSpade

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I'm a sexist I much prefer Harold Ford Jr JT makes the same excuses everyday and the four still haven't countered her bullshit
As of late, she just gets into shouting matches, and Greg, Jesse and the judge don't let her do that unopposed.
Unfortunately, it makes for bad TV.

It's her damned voice. I don't know what it is, but it really grates on my ears. I was at the dentist yesterday, and a woman in the waiting room had the same voice. She wasn't bad to LOOK at, but hearing her talk made me want to put something in my ears.

Like CHAINSAWS.
 

Clem72

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As we have reported more than once last year, Biden traveled to Kyiv as vice president and warned Ukraine’s then-president, Petro Poroshenko, that the U.S. would withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees until Ukraine removed its prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin, who was widely viewed as corrupt.
You lack the capacity for rational thought. When has this ever happened before? Presidents travel to foreign countries constantly, when have they ever threatened those countries to get them to fire "corrupt" government officials? Depending upon who you believe we may occasionally assassinate guys we don't like, and we will back political rivals and funnel weapons and money. But when have we ever gone up to country and said "hey, you know that aid money/weapons deal/treaty/etc. we agreed to? Yeah, we're not gonna do that unless you fire XYZ from your administration."

It doesn't happen. And if there was ever a time to start doing it, would you pick a random ass prosecutor whose "corrupt" activities have basically zero bearing on US policy or interests?

Here's a another free clue since you seem to be lacking one. There are thousands, maybe MILLIONS of corrupt government officials around the world. People who steal from their constituents, make false arrests, take bribes, etc. Some of it impacts us a whole hell of a lot more than anything in Ukraine (like for instance the guys making it extra hard for US businesses to succeed in China, or the inspectors that let them put poisonous chemicals in baby formula). If outcry about corrupt politicians was a concern of the US government, wouldn't we prioritize something like warlords who steal food aid, or when they urge genocide against groups within their countries.

No, apparently the last straw is a man so corrupt that there is literally no information available about his specific corrupt actions. His wikipedia page simply mentions that there was one failed vote in the ukraine parliament to have him removed and that "Representatives of the EU and the United States pressed Poroshenko for his removal,[5] as did the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.", though the attribution of that quote points to a washington post article that provides the same one sentence analysis with no sources provided at all. Well sound the alarms, that sounds like a scumdog that needs immediate american intervention if I ever heard of one.
 

GURPS

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There are thousands, maybe MILLIONS of corrupt government officials around the world. People who steal from their constituents, make false arrests, take bribes, etc.


YOu will wait for days or weeks to see a Doctor at the ER in Greece unless you bribe someone, usually the doctor to get seen
 

SamSpade

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Does anyone recall what happened to all the investigating into Burisma for corruption - AFTER Biden had the prosecutor canned?
 

Kyle

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Does anyone recall what happened to all the investigating into Burisma for corruption - AFTER Biden had the prosecutor canned?
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SamSpade

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I believe I read somewhere - that someone ELSE began investigating - because the original one went nowhere.

And, that Devon Archer tesitifed that Burisma executives initially were bothered by Shokin, because he'd already been confiscating their property - until at one point, they mentioned - it had been taken care of.

The second investigation ended - that day after Biden won in November. I wonder why.
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StmarysCity79

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You lack the capacity for rational thought. When has this ever happened before? Presidents travel to foreign countries constantly, when have they ever threatened those countries to get them to fire "corrupt" government officials? Depending upon who you believe we may occasionally assassinate guys we don't like, and we will back political rivals and funnel weapons and money. But when have we ever gone up to country and said "hey, you know that aid money/weapons deal/treaty/etc. we agreed to? Yeah, we're not gonna do that unless you fire XYZ from your administration."

It doesn't happen. And if there was ever a time to start doing it, would you pick a random ass prosecutor whose "corrupt" activities have basically zero bearing on US policy or interests?

Here's a another free clue since you seem to be lacking one. There are thousands, maybe MILLIONS of corrupt government officials around the world. People who steal from their constituents, make false arrests, take bribes, etc. Some of it impacts us a whole hell of a lot more than anything in Ukraine (like for instance the guys making it extra hard for US businesses to succeed in China, or the inspectors that let them put poisonous chemicals in baby formula). If outcry about corrupt politicians was a concern of the US government, wouldn't we prioritize something like warlords who steal food aid, or when they urge genocide against groups within their countries.

No, apparently the last straw is a man so corrupt that there is literally no information available about his specific corrupt actions. His wikipedia page simply mentions that there was one failed vote in the ukraine parliament to have him removed and that "Representatives of the EU and the United States pressed Poroshenko for his removal,[5] as did the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.", though the attribution of that quote points to a washington post article that provides the same one sentence analysis with no sources provided at all. Well sound the alarms, that sounds like a scumdog that needs immediate american intervention if I ever heard of one.


It was literally part of his job.


It’s certainly true to say that the British view, I think in common with the American view, was that Ukraine needed to do more to tackle corruption.“Cameron added: “Our view was, we’re helping you in terms of your defense, and we’re helping in terms of standing up to the Russian aggression, but you need to help us by dealing with corruption in your country and that was a common theme with all the interactions that I had particularly with President [Petro] Poroshenko.”

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European and US officials pressed Ukraine to sack Viktor Shokin, the country’s former prosecutor-general, months before Joe Biden, the former US vice-president, personally intervened to force his removal, people involved in the talks said. Mr Biden did not act unilaterally nor did he instigate the push against Mr Shokin, despite suggestions to the contrary by supporters of US president Donald Trump, people familiar with the matter said.


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