U.N. climate report will shock the world

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

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So who's legislation led to Universities in 1969 having an Inter-Connected Network

yea because this is what led to MOST colleges and universities having it and it was avaliable to the entire nation at this time.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Gore never claimed to have "invented" the Internet. What he said was: During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet.


As my colleague Jake Tapper carefully reported here last year, at worst that statement is a minor exaggeration of Gore's legislative record -- and miles away from the "I built it from scratch!" lie into which it has been twisted.
The life trajectory of the "I invented the Internet" Gore meme has been well traced by Phil Agre back to the original coverage of Gore's comment by Wired News' Declan McCullagh. McCullagh's first report, while never using the word "invent," interpreted Gore's statement as an outrageously false boast, and supported that view with one quotation from a conservative foundation spokesman. (That quote -- "Gore played no positive role in the decisions that led to the creation of the Internet as it now exists -- that is, in the opening of the Internet to commercial traffic" -- offers its own wildly distorted view of Internet history, narrowing its focus to "the opening of the Internet to commercial traffic" as the only significant milestone to shape today's Net.)


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http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/col/rose/2000/10/05/gore_internet/index.html

Do you want to change your story, Nucklesack?

 

[SmallTown]

Why do you suppose they have changed their slogan from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE?

Because of people like you who don't understand the concept. People hear global warming, and they picture the entire world sitting at 95 degrees year around. When something happens, such as say a huge ice storm in southen california, opponents will start jumping and shouting "See! Global warming doesn't exist, look at the snow in Malibu!".

I would speculate that "Global Warming" was the first name of it because that was the part we were focusing on. Since then, we realize that this overall increase in warming sets off other weather phenomeneon as well.

I don't know if the new name was coined by republicans to make themselves feel better that they are directing their attention to a "liberal" cause, or if it was coined by liberals to make republicans think it wasn't the same notion as global warming

 

[ylexot]

There is a direct relation to carbon-dioxide levels and temperature.

...but is it a causal relationship? Does CO2 cause the temp increase, or does the temp increase cause the CO2?

From the link you provided...
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/11/650000-years-of-greenhouse-gas-concentrations/
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Care to explain the causes of the periodic spikes in CO2 hundreds of thousands of years ago? I don't think it was caused by cars

I tried to get an answer on this from truby20, but she accused me of being silly or something...

 

[pingrr]

This global warming stuff is non sense. The earth goeas through long warming and cooling cycles. It has done this for millions of years. It's nothing new.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

...but is it a causal relationship? Does CO2 cause the temp increase, or does the temp increase cause the CO2?

From the link you provided...
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/11/650000-years-of-greenhouse-gas-concentrations/

Care to explain the causes of the periodic spikes in CO2 hundreds of thousands of years ago? I don't think it was caused by cars

I tried to get an answer on this from truby20, but she accused me of being silly or something...

Natural... CO2 levels do naturally rise and fall, it is a part of the Earth. We've contributed a great deal to it and they're expected to rise considerably over the next 20 years.

 

[pingrr]

Still waiting for you to explain why during 1940(late) to 1980 CO2 output continued to Rise, yet our temperature Cooled

Because he is an idiot and only quotes the portion of the data that suits his needs.
It's kinda like taking a quote out of context.

 

[ylexot]

Still waiting for you to explain why during 1940(late) to 1980 CO2 output continued to Rise, yet our temperature Cooled

I don't know if I would say that it cooled. Looks more constant to me. However, it's a little difficult to tell because of the retarded way they presented the data. Ok, maybe not retarded because it was designed to make it look scary. It would be easier to look at/see trend data in if it was simply a plot of temperature.

 

[ylexot]

We've contributed a great deal to it

Please tell me the volume of CO2 expelled by human activity (not including breathing unless you want a bunch of people to be killed off for the global warming cause) and the total volume of CO2 in the atmosphere. This will tell you the significance of human activity.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Why would I? Gore stated that he Created the Internet. the Internet was Created way before Gore had any possibility of manipulating any kind of legislation that had anything to do with the Internets Creation.

You seem to keep missing the point that the Internet was created in 1969. You can attempt to keep trying to move the goalpost of what Created means, but it doesnt change the fact that its Creation was on the day they connected those 4 nodes.

The article also pretty much says conservatives are exagarrating and misquoting him, in an attempt to deride his elections.

Al Gore said he was a part of legislation in the 1990s that created the internet to, pretty much mainstream America. You're just playing partisan politics.

 

[pingrr]

The article also pretty much says conservatives are exagarrating and misquoting him, in an attempt to deride his elections.

Al Gore said he was a part of legislation in the 1990s that created the internet to, pretty much mainstream America. You're just playing partisan politics.

All Gore did was grant funding. That is like a bank taking credit for somthing that was built with money that they loaned to somone.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

UH HELLO does anything get through (dont answer we already know that)

How is legislation that Al Gore (may have) been a part of in 90s have anythign to do with the Creation of the Internet in 1969?


try hard

HE NEVER SAID HE CREATED THE INTERNET. That would be like me saying I created television.

 

[pingrr]

Al Gore said he was a part of legislation in the 1990s that created the internet to, pretty much mainstream America.

You even said yourself that he was part of the team that created it.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

He took iniative in what led to the expansion of the internet. He mis-used his words but never took credit for an absolute invention of the internet.

 

[ylexot]

HE NEVER SAID HE CREATED THE INTERNET. That would be like me saying I created television.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." :shrug:

For the record, I think it was just a stupid comment. Happens all the time. BFD. If I ever mention anything about it, it will be in jest.

 

[pingrr]

Did he take any iniative in what led to the invention of the modern day crack pipe?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Did he take any iniative in what led to the invention of the modern day crack pipe?

You would know, wouldn't you?