Unbelievably lenient sentence for cop

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Unbelievably lenient sentence for cop who fingered suspects’ anuses



The ringleader was identified as officer Michael Vagnini, a white man who routinely targeted black males as young as fifteen for sadistic — and blatantly illegal — anal searches.

One victim said that another officer put a gun to his head while Vagnini administered a choke hold, touched his scrotum and fingered his anus. Another man was probed so violently that he bled.

Wisconsin law clearly prohibits police officers from administering cavity searches. Only medical professionals may do so, and only when authorized by a warrant.

But lack of a warrant or a medical degree did not stop Vagnini from sticking his fingers inside a 15-year-old boy’s anus and touching his genitals during a traffic stop in December of 2011.

The Journal Sentinel documented at least a dozen similar instances of Vagnini performing invasive, illegal searches on black men. According to his reports, some of the victims were indeed carrying drugs, though they contend that the officer lied about the details and even planted drugs inside their bodies.



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Unbelievably lenient sentence for cop who fingered suspects’ anuses



The ringleader was identified as officer Michael Vagnini, a white man who routinely targeted black males as young as fifteen for sadistic — and blatantly illegal — anal searches.

One victim said that another officer put a gun to his head while Vagnini administered a choke hold, touched his scrotum and fingered his anus. Another man was probed so violently that he bled.

Wisconsin law clearly prohibits police officers from administering cavity searches. Only medical professionals may do so, and only when authorized by a warrant.

But lack of a warrant or a medical degree did not stop Vagnini from sticking his fingers inside a 15-year-old boy’s anus and touching his genitals during a traffic stop in December of 2011.

The Journal Sentinel documented at least a dozen similar instances of Vagnini performing invasive, illegal searches on black men. According to his reports, some of the victims were indeed carrying drugs, though they contend that the officer lied about the details and even planted drugs inside their bodies.



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"Vagnini rarely used gloves when he probed their anuses, the victims contend. He also stole personal items and laughed when asked to present a warrant."


Ummm. Alrighty then. Now if he was probing them with say his nightstick I would not have cared. Hell break it off in their azz. But fingers without gloves??


Wonder how many cops wanted to share donuts out of the same box with this guy?
 

vraiblonde

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And this, my friends, is why some states have mandatory minimum sentencing. The sledgehammer of justice indeed.
 

Chris0nllyn

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Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn gradually became aware of what Vagnini was doing but had to wait “a couple of years,” for a proper investigation to take place. Eventually, Vagnini was charged with 25 counts of assault and sexual assault against at least a dozen victims.

For his crimes, Vagnini will serve a little over two years in jail.

As part of a plea deal accepted earlier this year, he admitted his guilt on four felony and four misdemeanor charges, earning 26 months in jail. The sexual assault charge was voided by the deal, allowing Vagnini to avoid having to register as a sex offender

This is why having a union is bad news. If the chief knew about them, why did he have to wait a couple of years to do anything? 37 charges, and it took years to get him off the streets?

Vagnini did not act alone, although most reports conclude that he was the only officer administering anal cavity searches. At least four other officers–Jacob Knight, Jeffrey Dolhopf, Brian Kozelak and Jason Mucha–assisted Vagnini by holding down the victims, or turned a blind eye and failed to report obvious abuse to superior officers.

The last of Vagnini’s henchman were sentenced earlier this month. Their punishments amounted to little more than community service and fines in the hundreds of dollars.

Each were forced to quit the police force — after receiving paid leave for months while the investigation took place.

Thin Blue Line?
 

glhs837

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And that's my issue. There really are very few bad cops. But so many otherwise good cops do nothing when a bad cop does wrong.
 

vraiblonde

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37 charges, and it took years to get him off the streets?

Look up the record of any random violent criminal and see how long it takes to get any of them off the streets. This is not terribly unusual.

But I see that you are not content to have an actual case of police brutality :yahoo: you must also quibble about how long it took to get him to trial and sentencing. I think you're just a bitcher and will never be happy.
 

MadDogMarine

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And that's my issue. There really are very few bad cops. But so many otherwise good cops do nothing when a bad cop does wrong.

There is an excellent saying
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken,
he will either cease being mistaken,
or cease being honest!” ~ Anonymous

When a good cop does nothing about a bad cop, he,at that time, ceases being a "good cop" and in reality becomes a criminal known as an "accessory after the fact".
 

Chris0nllyn

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Look up the record of any random violent criminal and see how long it takes to get any of them off the streets. This is not terribly unusual.

But I see that you are not content to have an actual case of police brutality :yahoo: you must also quibble about how long it took to get him to trial and sentencing. I think you're just a bitcher and will never be happy.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's off the streets.

I just doubt it'll take 37 charges and a "couple of years" to put me away if I finger banged your bung a few times.

I'm perfectly happy though, thanks. 2013 was a big year for me, and 2014 is looking even better. I wish the same for you. :buddies:
 

BOP

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And that's my issue. There really are very few bad cops. But so many otherwise good cops do nothing when a bad cop does wrong.

How often have good cops tried to "do something," only to become outcasts themselves for speaking out, and to have nothing at all change within the system? Basically, they're running head first into a brick wall.
 

glhs837

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How often have good cops tried to "do something," only to become outcasts themselves for speaking out, and to have nothing at all change within the system? Basically, they're running head first into a brick wall.

I understand, and that change to cop culture is slowly taking place, but it aint happening overnight.
 

vraiblonde

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I just doubt it'll take 37 charges and a "couple of years" to put me away if I finger banged your bung a few times.

How many charges and how many years did it take to get Jerry Sandusky for raping young boys?

But you probably don't care about that because he's not a cop.

Regardless, you live in a dream world if you think justice is swift in this country.
 

MMM_donuts

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How many charges and how many years did it take to get Jerry Sandusky for raping young boys? But you probably don't care about that because he's not a cop. Regardless, you live in a dream world if you think justice is swift in this country.

Doesn't this kinda tie into the other thread about being arrested? I almost posted something about how I don't feel like the injustice lies in the amount of people that are mistreated for first offenses as much as people's sentences don't seem to fit their crime. It seems to me like sexual assaulters and drunk drivers only get a teensy bit of jail time while other seemingly less hurtful crimes can earn much longer jail time.

But then I couldn't immediately recall any examples of a lesser crime that got an unreasonably harsh sentence and was too lazy to look it up.
 

vraiblonde

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other seemingly less hurtful crimes can earn much longer jail time.

Typically that's because the less hurtful crime is merely the latest in a long history of criminal behavior. We jump up and down when some kid gets tossed in the pokey for a minor thing, but what he's really getting jailed for is violating probation. Since he couldn't seem to keep his #### to himself, now he gets to do time for all the other crimes he committed that they let him go on.

The punk who B&Eed my home got 6 solid in Jessup, NOT for that burglary but for the string of other burglaries, drug violations, and assaults he committed beforehand that he was on probation for.

Years ago a guy I knew did a year in prison after he got busted growing pot in his home. Wow! A year! For pot! Turns out he got the time for violating the probation he was on for numerous other crimes, from minor drugs to theft.

So it's more of a "What'd we effing tell you, dumbass??" than a punishment for that particular crime.
 

Chris0nllyn

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How many charges and how many years did it take to get Jerry Sandusky for raping young boys?

But you probably don't care about that because he's not a cop.

Regardless, you live in a dream world if you think justice is swift in this country.

The Sandusky investigation opened in 2008. A Jury was convened in September 2009. They indicted him in 2011 after a 3 year investigation. Trial started in June 2012.

His case is a good example because he too had co-workers know what was going on and didn't say anything. I also feel 3 years for that investigation was a bit much, but I can also agree that they wanted/needed a rock solid case in order to convict him.

But if you allegedly receive money from a non profit gambling operation, they only take 6 months to get, and execute 2 different warrants and arrest the guy.

Huntingtown Man Charged with Operating Illegal Casino in St. Mary’s County | Southern Maryland News Net

Justice is swift when the powers that be want it to.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Bullsh*t. If a cop does nothing when another cop does wrong, then that cop is not a good cop.

Agreed, I didn't say he remained a good cop, I used the word otherwise meaning his only offense was not turning in the "bad cop". There is a difference between not being sure your partner prostate prodded a suspect and not saying anything and holding that suspect down while he does so, can we agree on that?
 

itsrequired

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How often have good cops tried to "do something," only to become outcasts themselves for speaking out, and to have nothing at all change within the system? Basically, they're running head first into a brick wall.

Where? When? How often? I've never seen it in over 20+ years of law enforcement. I have seen police officers testify against other police officers with zero repercussions. I have seen police officers stop and report what they perceived to be excessive force with no repercussions. This thought that police are afraid to report other police officers comes from the seventies when in large police departments there was a culture of corruption. It doesn't exist today.

Do you have any experience of this sort of police corruption? You sure do seem to as you seem to be stating officers become outcasts? Where are you getting your information?
 

itsrequired

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Agreed, I didn't say he remained a good cop, I used the word otherwise meaning his only offense was not turning in the "bad cop". There is a difference between not being sure your partner prostate prodded a suspect and not saying anything and holding that suspect down while he does so, can we agree on that?

In my opinion, and in the opinion of any number of officers that I know, the officers who allowed this to happen are equally culpable to the crime. These creatures are no longer considered police officers to good cops; they are corrupt from the start. They should have received the strongest possible sentence and there should be no leniency.
 
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