Undetected phone tracking app

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
Maryland changed that? Learner's Permits in MD anyway, used to require a licensed driver 21 or older to accompany teens with 'L.P.'s' There were no exceptions for school and work. If your young new driver was under 16 and not licensed/only had a Learner's Permit, the 21 or older licensed driver accompaniment MD law applied.

No, it's still that way. The exceptions happen once the kid turns 16 1/2 and gets their Provisional license. They can then drive alone to school or work but there are other restrictions that still apply.
 
No, it's still that way. The exceptions happen once the kid turns 16 1/2 and gets their Provisional license. They can then drive alone to school or work but there are other restrictions that still apply.

Yeah, I was thinking of the provisional, which in my day was called a junior license.
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
Yeah, I was thinking of the provisional, which in my day was called a junior license.

When I got mine (almost 30 years ago!) in VA, you went to Driver's Ed/Behind the wheel at 15 and got your Learner's after completing it. Then when you turned 16, you got your license. Maryland does it so different and kind of confusing if you ask me!
 
When I got mine (almost 30 years ago!) in VA, you went to Driver's Ed/Behind the wheel at 15 and got your Learner's after completing it. Then when you turned 16, you got your license. Maryland does it so different and kind of confusing if you ask me!

:lol: I got my permit in '70. Driver's ed was an elective in school, not mandatory back then. By the time I got into the class, I already had my junior license and a full non-provisional motorcycle.

Best story I have is when I took my road test. It was January in NY, a foot of cleared snow, bitterly cold and windy, roads were slick and icy. I went thru my test really well. At the VERY LAST stop sign before letting the tester out I tapped the brakes and started sliding on ice. Pumped them a few times, but slid right thru the stop sign. crap. I was sure I failed. Put the car on the side of the road, tester gets out, walks behind the car and across the intersection I had just slid thru. Slipped and fell flat on his ass.

I got my license.
 

Clem72

Well-Known Member
I don't believe my school had a drivers education course at all. I remember going into the DMV when I was 17 with my old man to register a vehicle and I asked the lady what I needed to get a license, and she said take the written test and if you pass you go out back and take a driving test.

So I took the written test and missed one too many questions. The lady graded it in front of me and told me to retake it. Of course I got a perfect the second time. Then after we stuck the new tag on the car we just registered I drove it around back and took the test.

Think the entire process took maybe 20 minutes. Might have been different if I was younger, but no learners permit or other was required.
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
:lol: I got my permit in '70. Driver's ed was an elective in school, not mandatory back then. By the time I got into the class, I already had my junior license and a full non-provisional motorcycle.

Best story I have is when I took my road test. It was January in NY, a foot of cleared snow, bitterly cold and windy, roads were slick and icy. I went thru my test really well. At the VERY LAST stop sign before letting the tester out I tapped the brakes and started sliding on ice. Pumped them a few times, but slid right thru the stop sign. crap. I was sure I failed. Put the car on the side of the road, tester gets out, walks behind the car and across the intersection I had just slid thru. Slipped and fell flat on his ass.

I got my license.

I don't believe my school had a drivers education course at all. I remember going into the DMV when I was 17 with my old man to register a vehicle and I asked the lady what I needed to get a license, and she said take the written test and if you pass you go out back and take a driving test.

So I took the written test and missed one too many questions. The lady graded it in front of me and told me to retake it. Of course I got a perfect the second time. Then after we stuck the new tag on the car we just registered I drove it around back and took the test.

Think the entire process took maybe 20 minutes. Might have been different if I was younger, but no learners permit or other was required.

My son will be starting Driver's Ed in March 2017 so there's a possibility that he might have to drive on sloppy roads. Maybe by the time they actually get into the cars, it will be closer to April and things won't be so bad. My son's friend failed his driving test the first time because he showed up to take it with only half a tank of gas. I guess that's an automatic failure. Something to keep in the back of our minds when the times comes.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
My son's friend failed his driving test the first time because he showed up to take it with only half a tank of gas.


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Complete your Pre-Trip successfully. After your check-in a MVA agent will give you direction where to go. The first part of the test will be a pre-trip inspection of the vehicle. On this part of the test you will demonstrate to the examiner that your vehicle is in good condition to go on the road. You will need to turn the lights on ( low beam and high beam), left and right hand turn signal, brake lights , hazard light, wipers and horn. All these items are going to be checked by the examiner outside your car while you, inside, turn them on. In addition to that the examiner will check the condition of the tires, if all lug nuts are present, if fuel gauge shows more than one-half tank of fuel and if there is no indication light on the dash-board such as "check engine light." Remember that everything need to be working properly in order to pass the vehicle inspection and to proceed to the second part of the test. If for any reason your vehicle disqualifies, you will need to schedule another appointment for a new test.
 
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RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
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Complete your Pre-Trip successfully. After your check-in a MVA agent will give you direction where to go. The first part of the test will be a pre-trip inspection of the vehicle. On this part of the test you will demonstrate to the examiner that your vehicle is in good condition to go on the road. You will need to turn the lights on ( low beam and high beam), left and right hand turn signal, brake lights , hazard light, wipers and horn. All these items are going to be checked by the examiner outside your car while you, inside, turn them on. In addition to that the examiner will check the condition of the tires, if all lug nuts are present, if fuel gauge shows more than one-half tank of fuel and if there is no indication light on the dash-board such as "check engine light." Remember that everything need to be working properly in order to pass the vehicle inspection and to proceed to the second part of the test. If for any reason your vehicle disqualifies, you will need to schedule another appointment for a new test.

I guess the mom or son didn't read that before going.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
MDs graduated licensing scheme is indeed a bit confusing, but worth it. It has driven a drop in teen driver fatalities. the biggest thing I think we could do is provide real emergency handling training.

http://www.tirerack.com/content/tirerack/desktop/en/events_sponsorships/street_survival.html

This and similar courses exist, and you should bend every effort to get your child into a course like this. Knowing what a vehicle does when it does get out of control is a huge help when it does happen. So very many crashes are either preventable or capable of being minimized if only the driver had been trained in NOT GIVING UP!!!!! So many crashes are made worse by people just locking up when it drops in the pot.
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

Well-Known Member
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Complete your Pre-Trip successfully. After your check-in a MVA agent will give you direction where to go. The first part of the test will be a pre-trip inspection of the vehicle. On this part of the test you will demonstrate to the examiner that your vehicle is in good condition to go on the road. You will need to turn the lights on ( low beam and high beam), left and right hand turn signal, brake lights , hazard light, wipers and horn. All these items are going to be checked by the examiner outside your car while you, inside, turn them on. In addition to that the examiner will check the condition of the tires, if all lug nuts are present, if fuel gauge shows more than one-half tank of fuel and if there is no indication light on the dash-board such as "check engine light." Remember that everything need to be working properly in order to pass the vehicle inspection and to proceed to the second part of the test. If for any reason your vehicle disqualifies, you will need to schedule another appointment for a new test.
This is a new process. It all makes sense, but I don't remember having to go through all of that.
 
How about just trusting that you raised them correctly and not invading their privacy until they give you a reason to?

My child, living in my house, using a phone I pay for, using a car I own, gas I pay for, insurance I pay for, etc. has NO right to privacy. They all know it. They know that I can (and will) ask for their phone at any time and they will provide it to me immediately in an unlocked state for me to look at what they've been doing. I have their email and facebook account info, and I check them regularly. If eldest boy doesn't make it at college and moves back home, I will reinstate the "Dad has access to all" rules for him. So long as he is at college, he is removed from "Dad Overwatch".
 

MR47930

Member
My child, living in my house, using a phone I pay for, using a car I own, gas I pay for, insurance I pay for, etc. has NO right to privacy. They all know it. They know that I can (and will) ask for their phone at any time and they will provide it to me immediately in an unlocked state for me to look at what they've been doing. I have their email and facebook account info, and I check them regularly. If eldest boy doesn't make it at college and moves back home, I will reinstate the "Dad has access to all" rules for him. So long as he is at college, he is removed from "Dad Overwatch".

Your kids, your rules. I get it. I'm just glad my parents TRUSTED me. Had I screwed up or did something that warranted them snooping through the phones, computers etc. that would be understood. Going through stuff for no reason just seems silly. Why not just put a GPS chip in them like they do dogs? Then you can follow them wherever they go.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
just put a GPS Tracker on the Car

Are you more worried about tracking him, or the car??

I think a tracker on the car would be better.. track his speed.. etc..

And if he tries to disable it it will more than likely disable the car.

http://www.motosafety.com/



:yay: Those are very effective - they're used where I work. As soon as one of the drivers go over a certain pre-determined speed (i.e., 5 mph over the speed limit) the supervisor gets an email.

I never had a GPS. Thing2 knew if he had *ANY* infractions in the car and didn't follow the rules, privileges were revoked.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
If you snoopers think that your kid is going to willingly give up their Carlos Danger/Ron Mexico snapchat login, you are kidding yourself. There is not a SINGLE one of you that had a GPS tracking device on your car or even had a cell phone when you were first driving so why should you subject your child to this? Did you suck that bad at raising them to make the right choices when given any responsibility? I might be a shiat parent to some folks but you can bet your ass I'm not micro chipping my kid so I can watch his every move and confront him because he was doing 63 in a 55.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
If you snoopers think that your kid is going to willingly give up their Carlos Danger/Ron Mexico snapchat login, you are kidding yourself. There is not a SINGLE one of you that had a GPS tracking device on your car or even had a cell phone when you were first driving so why should you subject your child to this? Did you suck that bad at raising them to make the right choices when given any responsibility? I might be a shiat parent to some folks but you can bet your ass I'm not micro chipping my kid so I can watch his every move and confront him because he was doing 63 in a 55.

Nope - you're not a shiat parent. I believe the same as you do. I raised mine to make the right choices and only when he made a stupid choice, got caught and ended up on the "wrong side" (which, in his case, was not all that bad in hindsight!) he faced the wrath of mummy dearest. It wasn't all that many times, either. I never had a phone tracker or a GPS for the car. He had a fair amount of leeway from me - and while I always trusted - I always also verified. He was a good kid and a pretty darn good teenager. AND, he's a great adult, now.
 

Tito

Donkey Smell
If you snoopers think that your kid is going to willingly give up their Carlos Danger/Ron Mexico snapchat login, you are kidding yourself. There is not a SINGLE one of you that had a GPS tracking device on your car or even had a cell phone when you were first driving so why should you subject your child to this? Did you suck that bad at raising them to make the right choices when given any responsibility? I might be a shiat parent to some folks but you can bet your ass I'm not micro chipping my kid so I can watch his every move and confront him because he was doing 63 in a 55.

We have a Winna!!!

:dingding:
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Nope, mine never had a tracker, but I did have, with the promise not to use outside of an emergency, thier apple or gmail logins, with which, I could locate their phones using the find my phone feature. Never needed to use it, but damned if I would not have that available.
 

MR47930

Member
If you snoopers think that your kid is going to willingly give up their Carlos Danger/Ron Mexico snapchat login, you are kidding yourself. There is not a SINGLE one of you that had a GPS tracking device on your car or even had a cell phone when you were first driving so why should you subject your child to this? Did you suck that bad at raising them to make the right choices when given any responsibility? I might be a shiat parent to some folks but you can bet your ass I'm not micro chipping my kid so I can watch his every move and confront him because he was doing 63 in a 55.

I've been trying to explain this since the start of the thread but the only response was "My house, my rules". I'm glad someone else views it the same as i do.
 
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