Urgent- neglect need advice....

[fredsaid2]

I received messages from multiple people that the place is in Lusby. The name was slightly different but seems to be Hi-Tail Farm or High Tail It or a variation there of.

To prevent any kind of retribution I won't say who told me what, as promised but, I hope this info is enough for other people to recognize and avoid the farm.

High Tail-It is the farm the by-pass cut through, between Rt. 4 and HG Truman. It's been years but when I was there it was self care board. The barn manager did morning feed and turn out/in, owners handled the rest. Did it change to full care?

 

[Phyxius]

High Tail-It is the farm the by-pass cut through, between Rt. 4 and HG Truman. It's been years but when I was there it was self care board. The barn manager did morning feed and turn out/in, owners handled the rest. Did it change to full care?

I'm not familiar with it so, I have no idea. But multiple people that I do know contacted me with that information. I have no knowledge of the place or management myself.

 

[maceygirl12]

Well evidently her sister doesn't know or she wouldn't have asked.
Not all of us horse owners are in the knowing circle. So you cannot even tell her what county?

My sister and I got rid of all of our horses some years back but she kept one and free leased it out.
Thanks for your support in that "Not all of us horse owners are in the knowing circle". That is Why I asked which county. We are not in the horse circle anymore and if it is the farm across from the old Johnson's store I would like to know because that is where her horse is.
If someone would please just PM me the info.
Thank you

 

[maceygirl12]

I received messages from multiple people that the place is in Lusby. The name was slightly different but seems to be Hi-Tail Farm or High Tail It or a variation there of.

To prevent any kind of retribution I won't say who told me what, as promised but, I hope this info is enough for other people to recognize and avoid the farm.

Guess I missed this post....Thank you!!! The horse is on this farm. I just called my sister and gave her the info of what is being said.

 

[Roman]

I drive past this place all of the time. I have an eye for abuse & neglect. I'm not trying to defend these people, but the horses I see all look to be in good shape. Now keep in mind that I'm traveling at the speed limit, and I've never just stopped in. I'm not a horse person, but this thread has got me sick to my stomach knowing that there are animals that are suffering at the hands of humans. I feel so bad for that Horse.

 

[ladyhawk]

High Tail-It is the farm the by-pass cut through, between Rt. 4 and HG Truman. It's been years but when I was there it was self care board. The barn manager did morning feed and turn out/in, owners handled the rest. Did it change to full care?[/QUOTE

For the record, this would be Southern Calvert County..

June

 

[PrepH4U]

Guess I missed this post....Thank you!!! The horse is on this farm. I just called my sister and gave her the info of what is being said.

I am glad that you were able to find out the info and give it to your sister. I guess she hadn't heard.

 

[luvmyhorses]

I drive past this place all of the time. I have an eye for abuse & neglect. I'm not trying to defend these people, but the horses I see all look to be in good shape. Now keep in mind that I'm traveling at the speed limit, and I've never just stopped in. I'm not a horse person, but this thread has got me sick to my stomach knowing that there are animals that are suffering at the hands of humans. I feel so bad for that Horse.

It's self care with the exception of a few the barn manager is supposedly caring for which obviously he is not. My point is most of the horses are being cared for by their owners. So you probably won't see the few that are being neglected.

 

[Roman]

It's self care with the exception of a few the barn manager is supposedly caring for which obviously he is not. My point is most of the horses are being cared for by their owners. So you probably won't see the few that are being neglected.

I thought that the people that owned that property also lived there. They had a new home built a few years back, that is kind of behind the old house. Either way, if it is indeed that facility off H.G. Trueman Road, no matter who they are, I hope they get slapped with everything possible legally.When they get old, I hope their kids put them in a facility like the one they run. It would serve them right!!

 

[fredsaid2]

I thought that the people that owned that property also lived there. They had a new home built a few years back, that is kind of behind the old house. Either way, if it is indeed that facility off H.G. Trueman Road, no matter who they are, I hope they get slapped with everything possible legally.When they get old, I hope their kids put them in a facility like the one they run. It would serve them right!!

The owners of the farm rent the property to an individual who manages the boarding barn. The farm owners have no part in managing the horses and rarely come to the barn.

 

[Roman]

The owners of the farm rent the property to an individual who manages the boarding barn. The farm owners have no part in managing the horses and rarely come to the barn.

Thanks for the info. The man that manages it should be evicted, and his next home would have BARS on the windows.

 

[luvmyhorses]

Thanks for the info. The man that manages it should be evicted, and his next home would have BARS on the windows.

We are working on it if anyone that has boarded there in the past and would be willing to do a statement on any abuse witnessed please message me. The more people the better. They can't ignore this if alot of people come forward!!

 

[fredsaid2]

We are working on it if anyone that has boarded there in the past and would be willing to do a statement on any abuse witnessed please message me. The more people the better. They can't ignore this if alot of people come forward!!

This story is beginning to sound a little off. You won't provide details of the situation you were part of and wouldn't even name the barn but we're supposed to tell you our experiences? You haven't even verified the barn or named the manager. That would be a good place to start.

 

[PrepH4U]

The barn was named .I'm trying to go about this cautiously that's all. I've answered a lot of questions and would be happy to privately. I'm sure those coming forward don't want their names thrown around in case of retaliation. Sorry if I've offended you in any way.

Now I see why all the mystery...
The best thing you could have done was make sure all who boarded there find replacement stables because PrepH4u (not my real name) said there was a mean manager and they didn't want their horses beaten or neglected anymore, if the mean manager found out.
It should have been blown wide open if you seriously believed the horses left there were in danger.
This is how kids are abused, the abuser gets away with it and no one steps up to defend the weak because of retaliation. JFC
Everyone is so afraid that they will hurt others feelings in riding clubs and circles that they keep their mouths shut when they see something wrong.

I have to kinda agree with Fredsaid why make a post about a farm with a neglect case but then not follow through with it when you are asked for details. Kinda sounds a little fishey. If all details have to be private then why make any part of it public? :shrug: If it was to notify current boarders, why not call them. OR did you all not get along? I am so glad that we are no longer showing and have our horses retired as pasture poodles at home.

Thank goodness Phyxius gave out the name, hopefully one horse was saved.

If this is all true I hope to God that you and your helpers follow through with this and not let it slide.

 

[fredsaid2]

The barn was named .I'm trying to go about this cautiously that's all. I've answered a lot of questions and would be happy to privately. I'm sure those coming forward don't want their names thrown around in case of retaliation. Sorry if I've offended you in any way.

Not asking for names of boarders, haven't even asked for details. But, you're the OP and lots of supposed facts have been posted that you have not confirmed or put to bed and now you ask for stories of past abuse. You haven't even provide the barn name or the name of the barn manager.

When I was there Jay was the manager. He might not have done everything 'my' way but I never saw anything resembling abuse. This is why I'm waving the flag, a lot of controversy is being stirred up based on an opinion. If the facts were know some may determine the horse owner and manager did no wrong. I knew of one elderly horse and owner back then. Someone new to the barn could have assumed neglect and abuse based on his appearance. They would have been wrong. They might also have disagreed with the owner's decision to not pursue further vet care and opt for a dignified end. That would have been a personal opinion and still would not have made the owner an abuser.

When this thread went the "we can't tell you things" route but still posted opinions it took on the tone of gossip and "I know something you don't". People were reacting to all the non-facts and you didn't correct them. Couple that with the request for stories and I started to question what was really going on.

If you've reported this to the authorities, step back and let that process take over. If you want to post facts, do it. If not then you might want to let this issue die out. Of course, this is only my opinion and not worth much.

 

[luvmyhorses]

Originally I posted asking for advice on the situation. I agree this should not be swept under the rug hence the reason I'm asking for advice and trying to get as many statements as possible. I already have many it's fine if you do not want to get involved. Totally understand. I also have to be careful because things said could potentially harm this investigation. Also I'm not trying to bash or slander. I'm not gossiping. At this point I agree to let the authorities handle it. I'm not one for drama so thank you for all your advice. Again sorry for any offense. Just trying to help.

 

[luvmyhorses]

Also barn manager and boarders were there when we called animal control , they all know. He was pretty pissed. So not afraid of hurting feelings. Just so that's all cleared up.

 

[Hoover]

I would honestly stop posting information on a public forum. It could hurt your case.

 

[luvmyhorses]

I would honestly stop posting information on a public forum. It could hurt your case.

Will do, thanks!!! That's my concern.

 

[Eventer29]

Two sides

So there are two sides to everyone's story. I know this farm manager, not friends, but horse aquaintances. Keep in mind that a boarder at the farm is not going to know EVERYTHING that goes on. We have had similar issues with boarders. Just because they didnt see treatment/phone calles etc. with their own eyes, must mean it didnt happen! I was told about this horse and its condition, by the manager and how he was working with the vet, and absentee owner on helping the horse. The horse was blowing abcesses frequently. Upon vet inspection it was discovered to have a very bad infection in the hoof which had eaten away part of the coffin bone. This is why the horse was put down. there was no hope of making the horse comfortable long term. This was the OWNER's decision! Obviously the owner trusted the barn manager to give her all the info to help her make this decision in her abcense.
And yes this farm is mostly self care, more like people renting out little barns/sections of the farm. The manager with a couple of the boarders helping out are responsible for a couple other "full board" horses. To my knowledge ALL of the horses are well cared for. From the sounds of it not much could have been differently in this case. If it were my horse that has been chronically lame, would I have thought, Well this horse must have a terrible infection in its hoof, that is going to cripple it for life and it will have to be put down! No. Also boarding manager only has so much control over an owner's horse. Unless they believe the horse to be in dire need, they will probably not call the vet out on their own dime. I know personally the horse would have to be in serious serious trouble for me to call the vet without owners permission, (which I have done on one occasion, as owner would not call vet, so I did) If the owner does not agree with the prescribed treatment, that you got, on their horse, they could potentially sue you!!