US opposes import of M1 rifles from South Korea

[TurboK9]

Oh, No! Its a scary rifle that Holds more than 1 round of ammunition.

So I take it you don't like guns?

I think his point was that it is a semi-auto and not bolt action.

The m1 was the first semi-auto to see general issue by the USA. As a baatle rifle it was well suited to its task, accurate and powerful. Even today its nothing to sneeze at.

 

[Vince]

I think his point was that it is a semi-auto and not bolt action.

The m1 was the first semi-auto to see general issue by the USA. As a baatle rifle it was well suited to its task, accurate and powerful. Even today its nothing to sneeze at.

Springfield sells the M1A. Semi-auto with a 10 round clip. 7.62 x 51mm or .308 Winchester in English. Nice gun. Can't wait to get one.

 

[EmptyTimCup]

Springfield sells the M1A. Semi-auto with a 10 round clip. 7.62 x 51mm or .308 Winchester in English. Nice gun. Can't wait to get one.

yeah $1500 or higher ......

 

[Vince]

yeah $1500 or higher ......

You can get one for under $1500, but not much under. :shrug: I save for what I want. Sooner or later I can afford it.

 

[EmptyTimCup]

You can get one for under $1500, but not much under. I save for what I want. Sooner or later I can afford it.

I should have bought one or 2 with my tax return ...


I am very interested in the Socom model ... but I have read there is quiet a muzzle blast with the shorter barrel


sigh ... I need a friend in some state other than Md.

 

[jrt_ms1995]

Oh, No! Its a scary rifle that Holds more than 1 round of ammunition.

So I take it you don't like guns?

Well, I like all 14 or 15 (crap, I've lost count, again) of mine, which includes a Korean War-era Harrington & Richardson M-1. Just keeping things accurate. Now, my old Carcano carbine, which I got rid of, that was a bolt action and took a 5-round clip, which would drop out the bottom of the well when empty. No "ping", though, from it.

 

[Pushrod]

Well, I like all 14 or 15 (crap, I've lost count, again) of mine, which includes a Korean War-era Harrington & Richardson M-1. Just keeping things accurate. Now, my old Carcano carbine, which I got rid of, that was a bolt action and took a 5-round clip, which would drop out the bottom of the well when empty. No "ping", though, from it.

Cool! I've only got one, a 1944 Springfield. I really hope they let them import these as I would like to get at least one more. I have ammo on order from CMP, but they seem to be running about 3 months behind on shipping. Sorry for the misconstuence of your original post!

Why did you get rid of the Carcano? That is on my list also. I have at least one rifle from each of the major players of WWII except the Japs and Italians.

 

[jrt_ms1995]

Why did you get rid of the Carcano?

Because it was a POS I bought before I knew better; I suppose some Italian soldier had dropped it too many times.

 

[dustin]

No new updates

if you want to track status of the senate bill "Collectible Firearms Protection Act" that if passed should allow importation of these M1 rifles and carbines check here:
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - S.381 - All Information - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
or here:
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - S.381 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

As of 17Feb2011 the bill was read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.

 

[Vince]

if you want to track status of the senate bill "Collectible Firearms Protection Act" that if passed should allow importation of these M1 rifles and carbines check here:
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - S.381 - All Information - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
or here:
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - S.381 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

As of 17Feb2011 the bill was read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.

No wonder nothing can get through a committee in DC. Committee on Foreign relations? That's stupid. What does that have to do with importing a firearm.

 

[aps45819]

yeah $1500 or higher ......

Was in the Tackle Box last night and saw a M1 Carbine...


$1700

 

[Vince]

Was in the Tackle Box last night and saw a M1 Carbine...


$1700

Bet they buy them dirt cheap too. Go to Accurate Guns and Ammo, Rt 5 north of Leoardtown. Prices are much better.

 

[itsbob]

I should have bought one or 2 with my tax return ...


I am very interested in the Socom model ... but I have read there is quiet a muzzle blast with the shorter barrel


sigh ... I need a friend in some state other than Md.

What's interesting is the same was said for the "original" M4 (M16 Carbine).

The Green berets carried the same (almost exact) weapon in the jungles of Vietnam and a few I talked to said they would never carry one into battle, especially at night.

It didn't take long for the Viet Cong to look for the biggest flash and bring to bear their firepower on that individual. They knew exactly who the biggest flash belonged to.

This generation, they started out as auto only port guns (M231)on the Infantry Fighting Vehicle (M2), and of course the infantrymen thought it cool to have a "short M16" and the M4 was conceived, again.

 

[dustin]

No wonder nothing can get through a committee in DC. Committee on Foreign relations? That's stupid. What does that have to do with importing a firearm.

To me, the bill reads that they are trying to change the law so that the State Department doesn't have any say-so on the matter of Curio and Relic firearms (the ATF already identifies which firearms are considered curio and relic).

If passed, the State Dept wouldn't have any say-so in the importation of C&R firearms (would still have their 2 cents on non C&R firearms), so then the ROK could import them through the already setup ATF channels and to the FFLs...

 

[dustin]

still no updates on both H.R.615 and S.381, they are still in limbo and have no updates since February 2011.

Bill Summary & Status Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

 

[EmptyTimCup]

 

[Bonehead]

Yes, because, as we all know, the terrorists are lusting after a 3 and a half foot long (easily concealable), 11 pound (lightweight), bolt action (lots of steel on target), .30-06 caliber (universal, readily available ammunition), iron-sighted (for long distance, improved accuracy sniping) weapon. Oh, and did we mention the distinctive "ping" sound that the weapon made when the 5-round ammunition clip makes when it's ejected? That's good for not letting your enemy know exactly where you are in the dark.

Yep, that's just the kind of inexpensive, easily portable, high speed weapon terrorists are looking for.

Ummm M-1 is a gas operated semi automatic rifle, 11 pounds sounds right 8 round en bloc magazine and yeah it does go ping when it ejects the magazine. 8 clicks from the bottom rear sight is always dead on at 100 yard. I was 10 years old when I fired one for the first time.

 

[dustin]

still no updates on both H.R.615 and S.381, they are still in limbo and have no updates since February 2011.

Bill Summary & Status Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

still no updates on these (H.R.615 and S.381) since February 2011...

HR 615 bill text: Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

S.381 bill text: Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

 

[dustin]

So, I guess a new version of HR 615 was introduced recently as HR 2247... we'll see how that goes...

Bill Text - 113th Congress (2013-2014) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

NRA-ILA | Bill Introduced to "Get State Department Out of the Gun Control Business"

This week, U.S. Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.) introduced H.R. 2247--the "Collectible Firearms Protection Act." H.R. 2247 would allow the importation of U.S.-origin "curio or relic" firearms into the United States without State Department permission. As with any other firearm, importers would still have to obtain an import license from the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The transactions would also be subject to dealer recordkeeping and background check requirements before retail sale.