Wanting to make Tri-County Animal Shelter a "NO KILL" Shelter

[tes218]

I just got back from visiting the shelter.

There are many purebred dogs in there!
A few Rotties, a Pom, Beagles, a Dobie, Min Pin, Cocker Spaniel just to name a few. Of course there are alot of mixed breed dogs too! My Rattie is a pure bred that I adopted from there. Fortunately, there are agencies for pure breeds that will step in and save that dog!

Most are large dogs and large breed dogs! There were only 2 small ones and thankfully they've found homes!

Lucky Ones took two little ones, a rat terrier and a chihuahua so they're still looking for a home but at least they're not going to be put down and made room for two more.

 

[BrassieChic]

Lucky Ones took two little ones, a rat terrier and a chihuahua so they're still looking for a home but at least they're not going to be put down and made room for two more.

Can I just call Lucky Ones to find out about these 2 dogs?
Someone told me that you have to leave a message and it's rare that you get a returned phone call.
I'd really, really like information on them. I'm still looking for another little one to add to my family. Thanks!

 

[tes218]

Can I just call Lucky Ones to find out about these 2 dogs?
Someone told me that you have to leave a message and it's rare that you get a returned phone call.
I'd really, really like information on them. I'm still looking for another little one to add to my family. Thanks!

Good Morning, The best way to reach Lucky Ones about adopting a dog is through our website, www.luckyones.com and email. The email address is luckyonesdogs@yahoo.com. I monitor that. I think people call the clinic number and leave messages. It is only open two days a week and the office manager returns the call of people wanting appointments for spay/neuter. Please let me know if people are not getting returned calls for appointments. As it's our policy to not take in owner give ups unless it's a very rare situation, I think those may be the ones that don't get returned promptly. Our main goal when formed was to rescue from the shelter the ones that are not going to make it another day and we have very limited space. We encourage owners to try to place their dogs themselves. It's much better for the dogs to go from one home into another and not go into a kennel situation. I'll PM you my phone number.

 

[BrassieChic]

Good Morning, The best way to reach Lucky Ones about adopting a dog is through our website, www.luckyones.com and email. The email address is luckyonesdogs@yahoo.com. I monitor that. I think people call the clinic number and leave messages. It is only open two days a week and the office manager returns the call of people wanting appointments for spay/neuter. Please let me know if people are not getting returned calls for appointments. As it's our policy to not take in owner give ups unless it's a very rare situation, I think those may be the ones that don't get returned promptly. Our main goal when formed was to rescue from the shelter the ones that are not going to make it another day and we have very limited space. We encourage owners to try to place their dogs themselves. It's much better for the dogs to go from one home into another and not go into a kennel situation. I'll PM you my phone number.

Thanks!

 

[SoftballCrazy]

dipsh!t

Why ask me? I'm not the breeder.

I do know the Breeder has a list of people to call whenever he has a new batch of puppies, and pretty much charges whatever he wants since his Pups are in demand.

if you want a family dog, i'd think getting a pup that you can research the parents on, and spend time with beforehand, would be much better than gambling your children on a Shelter dog (who's past history is likely unknown).

From personal experience, getting a dog as a pup and knowing the bloodlines didn't help us when my dog turned on me when he was 7 yrs old. No known problems beforehand, no aggression, never threatened or mistreated, etc. I know many people who have rescued dogs of all ages, and often those dogs turn out to be the best dogs ever. Sometimes they almost seem appreciative of being rescued.

 

[somd.enigma]

dipsh!t

Why ask me? I'm not the breeder.

I do know the Breeder has a list of people to call whenever he has a new batch of puppies, and pretty much charges whatever he wants since his Pups are in demand.

if you want a family dog, i'd think getting a pup that you can research the parents on, and spend time with beforehand, would be much better than gambling your children on a Shelter dog (who's past history is likely unknown).

You may not be the breeder, but your part of the problem and the reason that "the breeder" keeps breeding "batches"

 

[somd.enigma]

You have won the idiotic post of the day.

Because i chose to get a dog from a breeder instead of a shelter dog, its my fault there are shelter dogs?

Those are 2 seperate issues (unfortunately you arent able to comprehend it), i was just commenting on the fact that someone posted that Purebreds arent as "good" as Mutts.

Why havent you addressed the fact that PETA also supports killing shelter animals?

Ok, I'll try to put it in more simple terms for you. And BTW - you may want to read the entire thread before you comment.

Everytime you buy a dog from a breeder, the breeded is going to breed another 'batch' of puppies. Out of a litter of 6 puppies, I would guess that 2 end up in good homes - but let me guess, not your problem. How many of those dogs do you think end up having mixed puppies that end up at the shelter? - but let me guess again, not your fault or problem.

As for PETA supporting killing shelter animals - why don't you go back and read the entire thread so you know my views BEFORE you ask me a question like this.

 

[somd.enigma]

Before you try sarcasm, understand how it works. read my post, i was responding to someone asking why buy a purebred.

In your inability to understand and or comprehend, saw someone who wasnt ashamed of buying a purebred, and actually gave reasons on why i bought a purebred, and in blind misplaced hatred failed to understand that the first part of my post was related to the "why buy a purebred" question.

The second Part about PETA was, directed to the main topic of this post.



Your guess is wrong, instead of trying to use a puppy mill as an example of how a reputable breeder works why dont you actually take some time to learn about facts?
Out of the 9 puppies that came from this "batch", the breeder had none left over. Your bullsh!t about the puppies starving or turning them into the shelter is wrong (a position your familiar with)
you guess 2 end up in good homes? who determines that good home? you? you've been wrong on this entire post, we're supposed to believe your a good judge of "Good" now?.



Once again, how and or why would this be my problem?

let me give you an analogy ( definition of analogy ), since you seem to have a comprehension ( definition of comprehension )issue. I went and found a definition of the harder words, i want to make sure you are able to understand

Your "problem" is the same as blaming my kids for for the fact that yours are pregnant crackheads.
It is not my "problem" that I take the time to make sure my kids are raised in an environment ( definition of environment ) where they know the difference between right and wrong, know that they are responsible ( definition of responsible )for their own well being, and dont need to rely on anyone besides themselves

It is not my "problem" that yours live in one that is conducive ( definition of conducive ) living off the government teat, and buying "bling" while you and your kids live in a shack.

I purchased my dogs for either a specific trait or working issue, buying a shelter dog, just so Crackheads like yourself can feel better, wouldnt solve the need i had.

One of the responsibilities (Look above for the definition) of a good breeder is to the Breed itself. mainly by further propogating the wanted traits of the breed.

Is all I can say at your very poor attempt to use "big" words that YOU have to look up the definition of. TFF!

 

[SoftballCrazy]

I can understand some people wanting a purebred. But, I would research the breeder, ensure they're breeding to eliminate faults/health issues and keep the line clean/etc, ask if the breeder also does rescue or if a contract is done stating that any puppies must come back to them if they are to be given up for any reason. I wouldn't buy from a BYB or a puppy mill. Many of the dogs at the shelter are given up because someone is moving and can't take the dog, the person no longer has time for the dog. There are tons of highly adoptable purebreds at shelters across the states, the only thing they need is a chance in a loving home.

 

[somd.enigma]

I can understand some people wanting a purebred. But, I would research the breeder, ensure they're breeding to eliminate faults/health issues and keep the line clean/etc, ask if the breeder also does rescue or if a contract is done stating that any puppies must come back to them if they are to be given up for any reason. I wouldn't buy from a BYB or a puppy mill. Many of the dogs at the shelter are given up because someone is moving and can't take the dog, the person no longer has time for the dog. There are tons of highly adoptable purebreds at shelters across the states, the only thing they need is a chance in a loving home.

Exactly! If everyone that wanted and bought a purebred followed this example, I'm sure there would be alot less at the rescue/shelters.

 

[SoftballCrazy]

Everytime you buy a dog from a breeder, the breeded is going to breed another 'batch' of puppies. Out of a litter of 6 puppies, I would guess that 2 end up in good homes - but let me guess, not your problem. How many of those dogs do you think end up having mixed puppies that end up at the shelter? QUOTE]
Even if all puppies are placed at first in good homes, circumstances can change as we've all seen in the classifieds and some of those pups may eventually end up at the shelter. Some breeders track their puppies over the lifetime to see how they are fairing.

 

[somd.enigma]

Everytime you buy a dog from a breeder, the breeded is going to breed another 'batch' of puppies. Out of a litter of 6 puppies, I would guess that 2 end up in good homes - but let me guess, not your problem. How many of those dogs do you think end up having mixed puppies that end up at the shelter? QUOTE]
Even if all puppies are placed at first in good homes, circumstances can change as we've all seen in the classifieds and some of those pups may eventually end up at the shelter. Some breeders track their puppies over the lifetime to see how they are fairing.

Your right, there are exceptions to the everything. I've never heard of a breeder tracking all their puppies over the lifetime, but I'm sure some do. We've lost what this thread was about though. It's about how many actually do end up at the shelters - and the fact is that there are too many that do - both pure bred & mixed. Responsible pet ownership is the only way to stop it.

 

[SoftballCrazy]

Exactly, some breeders do have those clauses. Your avg person at the flea market selling pups aren't trying to do anything except make a dollar, and who knows what kind of lineage those dogs have, even if they do have papers.

 

[SoftballCrazy]

Your right, there are exceptions to the everything. I've never heard of a breeder tracking all their puppies over the lifetime, but I'm sure some do. We've lost what this thread was about though. It's about how many actually do end up at the shelters - and the fact is that there are too many that do - both pure bred & mixed. Responsible pet ownership is the only way to stop it.

Exactly, responsible pet ownership, education, and spay/neuter programs. I've seen some breeders who do track every pup and also do rescue.

 

[BrassieChic]

Once again, proof that some people are ignorant(or bored and need a life) In either case - what did you want to accomplish with that comment? Please do tell....

Enigma! You are my Hero!

 

[somd.enigma]

Enigma! You are my Hero!

Thanks Brassie, I'm glad I'm someones hero!

 

[BrassieChic]

09-25-2006 02:56 PM Because we know who you are

Oops! I better contact the FBI to reinstate my Witness Protection Program status!

 

[TotalControl]

Some breeders do have "clauses" that state the above.

I have to agree with Nucklesack I am a breeder of AkC Shih Tzu pups I know were all my pups are ( AkC requires you to keep records) and in my contract it states I will take the pup or dog back if the owner can not keep the dog or pup .. I also state that I have to be notified if they want to give or sell the pup or dog to another party .. Just the other day I received a call from a women who bought 2 of my pups in Californa She had a situation in her home and could not keep them and wanted to give them to her friend and ASKED me if it was alright because of what was stated in my contract .. Now I know not everyone would or will do this but it is in my contract .. Also my pups are with limited registration ( to be neutered or spayed) ....Most of my pups are sold by word of mouth and at times I will get cards, letters or e-mails from my clients...I also have a client that has bought 5 of my pups over the years and they are all FIXED..

 

[kwillia]

Some breeders do have "clauses" that state the above.

I have to agree with Nucklesack I am a breeder of AkC Shih Tzu pups I know were all my pups are ( AkC requires you to keep records) and in my contract it states I will take the pup or dog back if the owner can not keep the dog or pup .. I also state that I have to be notified if they want to give or sell the pup or dog to another party .. Just the other day I received a call from a women who bought 2 of my pups in Californa She had a situation in her home and could not keep them and wanted to give them to her friend and ASKED me if it was alright because of what was stated in my contract .. Now I know not everyone would or will do this but it is in my contract .. Also my pups are with limited registration ( to be neutered or spayed) ....Most of my pups are sold by word of mouth and at times I will get cards, letters or e-mails from my clients...I also have a client that has bought 5 of my pups over the years and they are all FIXED..

How does a breeder know that the pups they sell are actually fixed when they get old enough...

 

[Chasey_Lane]

How does a breeder know that the pups they sell are actually fixed when they get old enough...

Some breeders require proof the animal has been altered. A vet bill would suffice their request.