Was Christ Who He Said He Was?

Marie

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5 Comparisons Between God & Christ.


1) God is omniscient:
God knows all things.He knows the hearts andthoughts ofmen.He knows the past and the future.He knows the num-ber ofgrains of sand,and the number ofthe stars.There is nothing He does not know.

Christ is omniscient:
  • “But Jesus did not commit himselfto them,because he knew all men,and needed not that any should testify ofman:for he knew what wasin man”(John 2:24,25).
  • He knew the whereabouts of Nathaniel:“Nathaniel said to him,Where do you know me from? Jesus answered and said to him,Before Philip called you,when you were under the fig tree,I saw you”(John 1:48).
  • He knew the plot of Judas:“Jesus answered them,Have not I chosen you twelve,and one ofyou is a devil? He spoke of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon”(John 6:70,71).
  • He knew the heart ofthe Pharisees:“And Jesus knew their thoughts”(Matthew 12:25).“But when Jesus perceived their thoughts”(Luke5:22).“But he knew their thoughts”(Luke 6:8).
  • He knew the history ofthe Samaritan woman (John 4:16–29).
2) God is worshiped:
Only God can rightly be worshiped.“For you shall worship no other god:for the LORD,whose name is Jealous,is a jealous God”(Exodus 34:14).Whenever a man was worshiping another man,he was immediately rebuked:“And as Peter was coming in,Cornelius methim,and fell down at his feet,and worshiped him.But Peter took him up,saying,Stand up;I myself also am a man”(Acts 10:25,26).See also Acts14:11–15 where Paul refuses worship.Even the angels refuse worship ofmen:“I fell down to worship before the feet ofthe angel which showed methese things.Then said he to me,See you do it not:for I am your fellow-servant,and ofyour brethren the prophets,and ofthem which keep thesayings ofthis book:worship God”(Revelation 22:8,9).

Christ is worshiped:
He was worshiped by the wise men:“And when they were come intothe house,they saw the young child with Mary his mother,and felldown,and worshiped him”(Matthew 2:11).
  • He was worshiped by the leper:“And behold,there came a leper andworshiped him”(Matthew 8:2).
  • He was worshiped by the ruler:“While he spoke these things to them,behold,there came a certain ruler,and worshiped him”(Matthew 9:18).
  • He was worshiped by the angels:“And again,when he brought in thefirst begotten into the world,he said,And let all the angels ofGod wor-ship him”(Hebrews 1:6).There are many other examples ofpeople worshiping Christ.At notime did He rebuke them.He accepted their worship.
3) God forgives sin:
Only God can forgive sin,because all sin is against aholy God.No man can truly forgive sin.“Who can forgive sins but Godonly?”(Mark 2:7).

Christ forgives sin:
“When Jesus saw their faith,he said unto the sick ofthe palsy,Son,your sins be forgiven you”(Mark 2:5).
  • “And he said to her,Your sins are forgiven”(Luke 7:48).4) God creates:Only God can truly create.To form something where be-fore was nothing takes an act ofGod.Man can refashion or reform some-thing that already exists,but only God can create.Christ creates:
  • “For by him were all things created,that are in heaven,and that are inearth,visible and invisible,whether they be thrones,or dominions,orprincipalities,or powers:all things were created by him,and for him”(Colossians 1:16).
  • “All things were made by him;and without him was not anything madethat was made”(John 1:3).5)
God saves:“Salvation belongs unto the LORD”(Psalm 3:8).

Christ saves:
  • “For the Son ofman is come to save that which was lost”(Matthew18:11).
  • “For the Son ofman is not come to destroy men’s lives,but to savethem”(Luke 9:56).
  • “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;butthat the world through him might be saved”(John 3:17).
  • “Ifany man hear my words,and believe not,I judge him not:for Icame not to judge the world,but to save the world”(John 12:47).
“I said thereforeto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he,youshall die in your sins.”JOHN 8:24
 

Gwydion

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So, whats the verdict?

That all muslims are bad.

rofl

I do not understand this: “When Jesus saw their faith,he said unto the sick ofthe palsy,Son,your sins be forgiven you” somebody explain.

PS, Marie, did you lose your space bar?
 

jetmonkey

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He is who we thought he was!
 

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Marie

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:whistle: It is true that "Marie" gives out many text and quotes but no conclusions or verdicts of her own. :banghead:

Your kidding right? Where have you been for the last 6 months. I gave you plenty, you rejected all of them and two thirds of scripture and about 48 sermons by two differnt preachers.
 

tommyjones

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Your kidding right? Where have you been for the last 6 months. I gave you plenty, you rejected all of them and two thirds of scripture and about 48 sermons by two differnt preachers.

what he is saying is that you present other peoples ideas, but give little of your own opinions. You seem to base all of your position on preachers sermons, not indenpendant thought.
 

Marie

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That all muslims are bad.

rofl

I do not understand this: “When Jesus saw their faith,he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son,your sins be forgiven you” somebody explain.

PS, Marie, did you lose your space bar?

Yes,
Christ was demonstrating that he had the power to forgive sins, and telling them who we was. The sick believed he had the power to heal them that they sought him out.
 

tommyjones

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Yes,
Christ was demonstrating that he had the power to forgive sins, and telling them who we was. The sick believed he had the power to heal them that they sought him out.

the same passage could be interpreted as palsy being a penalty for sin, and christ was releving them of the afflicitons from both.
 

Starman3000m

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So is jesus god?

The Supremacy of Christ

Colossians 1:15-17 (New International Version)

15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.


1 Timothy 3:15-16 (King James Version)
15But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


John 14:8-10 (King James Version)
8Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works

God Is The Divine Spirit of Yeshua. Yeshua Is God in human form:

How does this correspond to The Trinity? Just as God created us in His own image and likeness to have:

Spirit
Soul
Body
 
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Starman3000m

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this is pretty much just a 'yes' or 'no' question.

If I were to say "yes" you could disagree with me; If I show you Yeshua's words and New Testament accounts you would need to disagree with Yeshua and the Biblical accounts of His life, ministry, suffering, death, resurrection, ascension into heaven and Deity as Saviour of mankind through His Atoning Blood.

Ultimately it is not me that you really agree or disagree with.

Whom do you say Yeshua is?
 

Xaquin44

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If I were to say "yes" you could disagree with me; If I show you Yeshua's words and New Testament accounts you would need to disagree with Yeshua and the Biblical accounts of His life, ministry, suffering, death, resurrection, ascension into heaven and Deity as Saviour of mankind through His Atoning Blood.

Ultimately it is not me that you really agree or disagree with.

Whom do you say Yeshua is?

If you say 'yes' or 'no' I'm fine either way.

If jesus is the same as god, then I'll say god didn't send his son down, but rather just himself.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Deadbeat child support resister.

this is pretty much just a 'yes' or 'no' question.
:coffee: "Starman" is doing the same as "Marie" in giving Bible text and other people's quotes but no independent thought at all.

No personal opinions or conclusions or verdicts of their own. :bigwhoop:
 

godsbutterfly

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I am not going to argue with anybody. You are asking for somebody to give a personal opinion so I am going to do that. God exists in three parts - as God the Father, God the Son (otherwise known as Jesus Christ) and God the Holy Spirit. They are known as the Trinity. Yes, God is Jesus, He is God and He is the Holy Spirit all in One Person. That is my Belief. Again - I am not going to argue with anybody.
 
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toppick08

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:coffee: "Starman" is doing the same as "Marie" in giving Bible text and other people's quotes but no independent thought at all.

No personal opinions or conclusions or verdicts of their own. :bigwhoop:

God's Word trumps all man's verdicts or conclusions......jeeeez..:smack:
 
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