What a POS!
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Joewsesnica
Joewsesnica
rack'm said:
I can see it now.....her chest deep at low tide with a nice 200 lb. block of stone with just enough chain so that she could tread water.....and me with a bucket of popcorn, just waiting for the tide to come in.
Let me know when, I'll be there sittin right beside ya!!!!!
Somdmommy
:Jeepin' in NC:
"The defense says she suffered from severe postpartum psychosis and did not know that drowning her children was wrong."
I might buy that if she killed one child MIGHT, I had pretty bad PostPartum Depression but all I did was cry untill I though my eyes would fall out.
I think this woman is evil.
She waited untill her husband went to work!!! She Waited...why? If she was insane it wouldnt have made a difference if he was there or not.
Then she ran down her 5 kids **5** After the first, I'm sure the rest ran away from her and she would have had to run around and catch each one? After the first baby she had to go and get the otheres knowing what she was going to do, I see that as premeditated.
It all comes down to her being a POS: To run down 5 kids and hold them under water while they fight you is insane, but I think you should be able to be found Insane by a Jury but still be responsible for your actions.
I might buy that if she killed one child MIGHT, I had pretty bad PostPartum Depression but all I did was cry untill I though my eyes would fall out.
I think this woman is evil.
She waited untill her husband went to work!!! She Waited...why? If she was insane it wouldnt have made a difference if he was there or not.
Then she ran down her 5 kids **5** After the first, I'm sure the rest ran away from her and she would have had to run around and catch each one? After the first baby she had to go and get the otheres knowing what she was going to do, I see that as premeditated.
It all comes down to her being a POS: To run down 5 kids and hold them under water while they fight you is insane, but I think you should be able to be found Insane by a Jury but still be responsible for your actions.
Somdmommy
:Jeepin' in NC:
I think if they find her guilty again, they should send her to the worse female prision there is. No special room, Nothing. She should have to fight to stay alive( just like her kids tried) while the women in there with her (who have kids of their own) beat the life right out of her. ..And They Will..rack'm said:
I can see it now.....her chest deep at low tide with a nice 200 lb. block of stone with just enough chain so that she could tread water.....and me with a bucket of popcorn, just waiting for the tide to come in.
Joewsesnica
Joewsesnica
Somdmommy said:
Put me in there with her!!!!! I'll take care of her a$$!!!!!!!!
Somdmommy said:
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with what the article says, BUT, if drugs had made me whack out and kill my 5 kids, once I was aware of what I had done, I wouldn't want to live. No way, no how!
Her husband did an interview on 20/20 a while back and blamed the drugs as well. :shrug:
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Bruzilla
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Pete said:
Take all the legalistic crap out of the equation and focus on the facts: first, she didn't want all those kids... her husband did. Since she didn't want them it's logical to assume she resented having to care and raise them, and as a result those kids became more and more a symbol of her anger towards her husband. She didn't hear any voices in her head, except for that one that many wives have that get them spun up from time to time (we husbands all know that voice.) So she systematically drowns each of her husband's favorite things in the World, and then immediately calls him to let him know she's done something to hurt him. That's not insanity, it's just spite.
If she had just sat there in the bathroom comotose until her husband came home, that would be one thing. If she just went about her daily business after drowning the kids and was in a state of denial that would be a sign of severe mental illness. No... she killed the kids and then immediately wanted her husband to know about it, most likely because she wanted him to experience the pain she had felt over the years. That's a lot of things... anger, vengence, animosity, cruelty, etc., but it's not insanity.
MysticalMom
Witchy Woman
I think we need one of these for people like Andrea Yates and Susan Smith.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm
Pete
Repete
OK, you have convinced me. I suppose if I were aware of all the facts of the case my opinion might have been different. One thing is for sure she is a special kind of something, be it diabolically crazy or vile, either way she needs to go away.Bruzilla said:
Answer me this. Knowing she was in Texas where they hook you up to the IV during the trial if it looks like it is going bad for you, and knowing that there is NO WAY on earth she would ever walk free another day in her life, why would she still do it out of "spite"? She could have just slipped out in the middle of the night and never come back. Why kill them unless she was koo-koo and had no concept of what was going to happen to her?
Bruzilla said:
Excellent post. Like I said yesterday IF her little story about the anti-depressant drugs was true, why would she even want to live with what she had done once she recovered from the effects?
I would have wanted to die but she is fighting for her own life?
That never has nor will make sense to me.
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Bruzilla
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Pete said:
Susan Smith placed her two young sleeping kids in her car and pushed the car into a lake. She stood there and watched the car slowly sink into the water, passing up an extended period of time to change her mind and save the kids. Why did she do it? Because she had fallen in love with another man who didn't want kids, and she didn't want to leave her husband until things were good to go with the new guy and that wouldn't happen with the kids being around. So she murdered them. Afterwards she concocts a story about the kids being kidnapped.
Lorena Bobbitt has sex with her husband. He climaxes before she does and rolls over and goes to sleep. She gets pissed, grabs a knife, and slashes off his penis. Afterwards she concocts a story about being raped and having to defend herself, but when she was arrested she was still in her full-glory "righteous indignation" mode and she told police she did it because of the inconsiderate sex. It wasn't until she was facing prision and deportation that the bogus rape allegation came into play.
These are just two cases of women doing things that are highly premeditated or just on the fly, with the full knowledge what they were doing was wrong. They are scarecely different than Yates, the only difference was the motivation. I never listen to all the crap and justifications that come out of the trial phase of these crimes because it's 90% BS. I look at the actions of the accused immediately after the crime. Susan Smith concocted her kidnapping story because she wanted the kids gone but didn't want to take the blame for it. Bobbit bragged to police about what she had done and felt she was 100% justified in doing it, and she was damn lucky her lawyer got the confession suppressed. Yates felt that her husband was forcing her to have kids when she didn't want them, and killed them in order to force some pain on her husband and immediately called him to let him know about it afterwards.
Compare these actions to those of Dee Laney who killed her sons with rocks while her husband was sleeping. Read the 911 transcript http://www.courttv.com/trials/laney/docs/calltranscript.html of the call that she made immediately afterwards. I think this call shows that she definately knew she had committed a crime, but the woman is obiously delusional... a far cry from calling your husband and telling him you've done something and that he needs to come home and admire your handiwork.
But I guess to answer your question there's no easy answer because there's a wide array of personalities out there. I would guess that Yates is a border-line sociopath who saw her kids as symbols of her husband and she viewed killing them in the same as some women view destoying their husband's property when they are angry with them. Susan Smith is a totally self-centered and selfish individual who saw her own needs and wants as more important that those of her husband and kids. Loerna Bobbit is your basic hot head who acts on impulse. All of these women knew what they we're doing was wrong, and did it anyway - but for different reasons. What bothers me is that when men act this way they are labled "deeply disturbed and dangerous", but women are labled "deeply troubled and in need of help."
