~ What goes around ~ comes around ~

[Ponytail]

What would you do if you had to give a stranger CPR, and they had a HUGE cold sore on their lip?

Hold their mouth, blow in their nose and hope that their eyes don't pop out? :shrug: It works for dogs.

 

[RoseRed]

Hold their mouth, blow in their nose and hope that their eyes don't pop out? :shrug: It works for dogs.

Sounds like you have been a good Samaritan for some pretty ugly wimmins.

 

[Chain729]

I just look at thing this way, how would I want to be treated? Would I want somebody to step over me if I was collapsed on the ground? NO

What if it was my child, my mother, my father, somebody I care about? Again the answer is NO.

Same thing when the ambulance goes down the road and people will not get the hell out of the way, pull to the shoulder of the road, because they are all about themselves and getting where they want to go. <- huge pet peeve of mine

I have found over the course of the past year - year and a half that I have run into a lot of people that have your viewpoint and I think it is a rather sad and pathetic way to look at others and their motives. No, I’m not Ms. Suzy Fricken Sunshine, but sometimes people just do things for others without expecting gratitude, rewards, and without ulterior motives. I find it sorely offensive when you do something for someone and they think you do have ulterior motives, nothing like being bludgeon for noticing that somebody might need a favor and you stepping up to offer and help. It is the way I am, and I guess without people like me and others, since I know I’m not alone, you’ll collapse tomorrow and yes, somebody will have the heart to stop and those that are cynical will step over you.

I just have a question Chain, and I’m not attacking you or your opinion, I’m just trying to understand it. Did somebody kick you in the face to make you so cynical? I try to understand, really I do, that I don't care attitude, always watching your back wondering what people's intensions are. :shrug:

Please don't mistake me being cynical with me not understanding why people stop to help others. I help others whenever I can because I like to: That's my point. If you gain nothing other than self-satisfaction for helping someone else, that's still something. Those that stepped over the person don't care for that feeling.

Being cynical doesn't mean I think all people are cold, just that noone does anything unless it jives with them ("them" being a very broad term).

Example: If someone believes they have more to gain by lying to me than by being honest- they'll lie. If someone destests lying more than they care for what they have to gain by lying- they'll tell the truth.

Its all cuase and effect; all explainable. Anything, including people and their actions, can be calculated if you know enough of the factors.

For the record, almost everyone I've ever gotten close to- outside of blood- has burned me at one time or another. However, being cynical or being anything, for an emotional reason is foreign to me: I'm cynical simply because it works.

 

[virgovictoria]

Kizzy, I'm soo sorry to hear you had seizures this morning And I feel terrible that noone stopped to help you. If you need anything, please let me know... you are just down the street from me. I sincerely hope you feel better and are able to find the person that helped ...


:shrug:

Too many planet of the apes rejects to product test on, too little time....

 

[Ponytail]

Sounds like you have been a good Samaritan for some pretty ugly wimmins.

Never. I'm picky. I've seen it on TV though.

 

[likitysplit]

Kizzy, I'm soo sorry to hear you had seizures this morning And I feel terrible that noone stopped to help you. If you need anything, please let me know... you are just down the street from me. I sincerely hope you feel better and are able to find the person that helped ...


Vrai - you are correct about people turning against the Joe Samaritans'....when I was growing up - a family friend of my fathers pulled a man from a car after a horrific accident just minutes before the car caught on fire and he ended up getting sued for it and it was based on the grounds that the family friend didn't have any formal medical training or something or other... it was thrown out of court... but still the nerve to sue someone for something like that just makes me think... maybe he was just trying to check out of the world... :shrug:

This just in!!!

Dems4me - People having seizures are unable to use cell phones................

On a separate note, on the way to work this morning I saw a cow that was outside of the fence. I pulled over, opened a gate close by and had my wife hold the perimeter while I walked it to the gap gate. Cow is safe. Wrote down eartag # and brand on its azz. Called the sheriffs deparment.....good deed done.

Moral of this story, I was late for work, but didn't care, I was looking out for the Heifers life as well as the tons of people that speed on that road.

It took all of 10 minutes, got my shoes a little muddy but oh well. Did I do this for a medal, no............but It sure makes me feel good at work knowing I may have saved a cows life and a motorists life, and the insurance company money, and the highway departments time cleaning it up, and the State troopers time away from real crime, and .......

It's very true, what comes around goes around.

to you Kizzy...............

 

[Kizzy]

Example: If someone believes they have more to gain by lying to me than by being honest- they'll lie. If someone destests lying more than they care for what they have to gain by lying- they'll tell the truth.

Its all cuase and effect; all explainable. Anything, including people and their actions, can be calculated if you know enough of the factors.

For the record, almost everyone I've ever gotten close to- outside of blood- has burned me at one time or another. However, being cynical or being anything, for an emotional reason is foreign to me: I'm cynical simply because it works.

I believe in self foreseen prophecy, if you believe that you will eventually be hurt, than you will get hurt. If you believe people have ulterior motives, you will search and seek to find one or many motives, even if they are dreamed up. Sometimes people like to feel needed, appreciated and depended upon, why? I don’t know, they just do, I do and it can be that simple.

It is others that bludgeon our intentions and turn us into cynical people, which I find myself becoming more and more everyday, just not sure it would work for me, I'll pounder that some more, make better decisions as I go along.

 

[Nanny Pam]

Unfortunately, we've all heard stories about how Joe Samaritan stopped to help someone and got a nice fat lawsuit for his trouble. I used to think those were made-up stories - how could anyone possibly be so nonsensical and ungrateful? Then I started doing this for a living and realized that, yes, there are a lot of screwed up people in the world. (And I'm not talking about you forum folks, either)

.... which is why the laws were changed.

 

[Ponytail]

.... which is why the laws were changed.

...in Minnesota?

"...A summary of the Minnesota Statute is found below. ..."

 

[Nanny Pam]

...in Minnesota?

"...A summary of the Minnesota Statute is found below. ..."

pick, pick, pick! click


MARYLAND:


The Maryland legislature has developed several statutory sections which provide immunity for tort or civil liability to certain classes of individuals who provide assistance in emergency situations. These sections generally require that the voluntary emergency assistance be provided without a fee to the victim and absent gross negligence on the part of the assister. The following is a brief summary of the Good Samaritan statutes and interpretative case law governing the doctrine in the State of Maryland.


I. Emergency Medical Care - Specially Trained and Non-Trained Individuals: ........................

 

[Lenny]

pick, pick, pick! click

. . .and the link specifically says "Non-trained individuals will similarly not be held civilly liable for any damages which occur when providing assistance or medical aid to a victim at the scene of an emergency as long as they provide the assistance in a reasonably prudent manner, the assistance is provided without fee or other compensation, and the individual relinquishes care of the victim when someone who is licensed or certified by the State to provide medical care or services becomes available to take responsibility for the victim. Md. Code Ann., Courts and Judicial Proceedings §5-309 (c) (1995). "

Thank NP!

 

[Nanny Pam]

. . .and the link specifically says "Non-trained individuals will similarly not be held civilly liable for any damages which occur when providing assistance or medical aid to a victim at the scene of an emergency as long as they provide the assistance in a reasonably prudent manner, the assistance is provided without fee or other compensation, and the individual relinquishes care of the victim when someone who is licensed or certified by the State to provide medical care or services becomes available to take responsibility for the victim. Md. Code Ann., Courts and Judicial Proceedings §5-309 (c) (1995). "

Thank NP!

No problem.


By the way...Good job, Kizzy!

 

[Chain729]

I believe in self foreseen prophecy, if you believe that you will eventually be hurt, than you will get hurt. If you believe people have ulterior motives, you will search and seek to find one or many motives, even if they are dreamed up. Sometimes people like to feel needed, appreciated and depended upon, why? I don’t know, they just do, I do and it can be that simple.

It is others that bludgeon our intentions and turn us into cynical people, which I find myself becoming more and more everyday, just not sure it would work for me, I'll pounder that some more, make better decisions as I go along.

"Self foreseen prophecy," you remind me of my mother: I could never get her to understand it either. At any rate, I'll try again.

Everything has a reason- no exceptions. To me, "just because" translates to "because I don't wish to understand why." However, this doesn't mean that if I don't understand something, it doesn't exist. If don't understand something, I simply don't know enough about it.

People don't do anything without a motive- even if that motive is because it makes them feel good to be needed, or feel good to follow an impulse. Its not always a logical reason, but can be calculated with logic.

Why did you stop to help that woman? Because you felt you ought to, correct? Is that not a reason, not a motive? If you hadn't stopped and helped you would've felt guilty. Because you did stop and help, you feel good about your actions. So, if helping makes you feel good, than did you not gain something from the action?

Being "cynical" doesn't mean I don't trust others or their motives. I trust them fully: I trust them to be true to themselves and their owner. Someone who is "trustworthy" simply values being trustworthy and as such does what is required to remain so.

 

[Kizzy]

Actually Chain, I got it this time.

 

[carolinagirl]

for Kizzy. What you did was great!!

 

[Ponytail]

pick, pick, pick! ...................

 

[Nanny Pam]

 

[Chain729]

Actually Chain, I got it this time.

Good and thanks

Now, only if I could get my mother to understand that

 

[alex]

What would you do if you had to give a stranger CPR, and they had a HUGE cold sore on their lip?

Actually you could find something to place over the person's lips (like part of a plastic bag), put a hole through that item and continue with CPR. They now make such things for providing CPR to strangers and that this the standard practice when training for CPR. Some RNs from the hospital did this when teach CPR to boys in my son's scout troop.

 

[DoWhat]

They now make such things for providing CPR to strangers and that this the standard practice when training for CPR.

I will make sure to carry one of them things in my back pocket.