What I find most interesting about the TX school shooting coverage...

[vraiblonde]

....is that the politicians and the news media and the random rabble are blaming the cops, the guns, the Republicans, the Democrats, the NRA, the defund people ....and there's very little mention of the actual, you know, shooter.

I'm personally inclined to blame him solely for the deaths of those children, but I'm having a hard time finding anyone who also feels that way. They're pointing fingers at everyone.....except the kid who actually did the shooting.

Crazy old world we live in.

 

[SamSpade]

Everyone wants to believe this is preventable - and since it largely happens only HERE, it likely is. They’re looking for what they’ve missed or reasons it happens here but not in, say, France or Germany.

 

[herb749]

Because we are not France & Germany .

 

[Kyle]

Everyone wants to believe this is preventable - and since it largely happens only HERE, it likely is. They’re looking for what they’ve missed or reasons it happens here but not in, say, France or Germany.

France, Germany and other European nations have been getting some of it and will be getting much more in the future since they diluted their culture with incompatible imports.

 

[SamSpade]

France, Germany and other European nations have been getting some of it and will be getting much more in the future since they diluted their culture with incompatible imports.

What I HAVE noticed - is that it doesn't seem to happen at all in Israel, or at nearly the frequency - and given their history, understandable.

I don't think it happens in Russia - when I was there, I noticed armed men in the front area of most large stores. No running out of the store for you - you won't make it to the parking lot - alive.

What I AM noticing is that very many of these muliple shooters are youth. The last several have been. Go back far enough, and you're dealing with youth with very little adult supervision or involvement, who were bullied or had very visible mental problems. A few years ago - so it might not be true any more - a columnist remarked that all of the top mass killers grew up fatherless or without much of a father present in the home.

What I see is that so many want to point to one statistic - the wide availablilty of guns, as the reason. So they push for more restrictions on all guns, especially "assault rifles" (a made up term I'm finding increasingly annoying).

You will NOT "get" all of the guns - I don't care what your registration says. There's hundreds of millions of guns in this country.
You will NOT stop the sale of guns - this nation clearly does not possess either the will or the ability to stop something as deadly as fentanyl, which DAILY kills more than "assault rifles". We can't control the flow of ANYTHING into this country - but we're going to ban guns?

Criminals don't buy their guns from gun dealers. Gang bangers don't buy their guns from gun dealers. They get them illegally and banning guns won't change that. On the other hand, legislators and politicians have zero interest in keeping guns out of the hands of criminals - they just want the mass killings like this one to end.

 

[BOP]

What I HAVE noticed - is that it doesn't seem to happen at all in Israel, or at nearly the frequency - and given their history, understandable.

I don't think it happens in Russia - when I was there, I noticed armed men in the front area of most large stores. No running out of the store for you - you won't make it to the parking lot - alive.

What I AM noticing is that very many of these muliple shooters are youth. The last several have been. Go back far enough, and you're dealing with youth with very little adult supervision or involvement, who were bullied or had very visible mental problems. A few years ago - so it might not be true any more - a columnist remarked that all of the top mass killers grew up fatherless or without much of a father present in the home.

What I see is that so many want to point to one statistic - the wide availablilty of guns, as the reason. So they push for more restrictions on all guns, especially "assault rifles" (a made up term I'm finding increasingly annoying).

You will NOT "get" all of the guns - I don't care what your registration says. There's hundreds of millions of guns in this country.
You will NOT stop the sale of guns - this nation clearly does not possess either the will or the ability to stop something as deadly as fentanyl, which DAILY kills more than "assault rifles". We can't control the flow of ANYTHING into this country - but we're going to ban guns?

Criminals don't buy their guns from gun dealers. Gang bangers don't buy their guns from gun dealers. They get them illegally and banning guns won't change that. On the other hand, legislators and politicians have zero interest in keeping guns out of the hands of criminals - they just want the mass killings like this one to end.

No they don't. That there is political hay, just waiting to be reaped. It's red meat that they can wave in front of the ignorati to get them all stirred up and keep the lines of division sharp and clear.

 

[Bobwhite]

....is that the politicians and the news media and the random rabble are blaming the cops, the guns, the Republicans, the Democrats, the NRA, the defund people ....and there's very little mention of the actual, you know, shooter.

I'm personally inclined to blame him solely for the deaths of those children, but I'm having a hard time finding anyone who also feels that way. They're pointing fingers at everyone.....except the kid who actually did the shooting.

Crazy old world we live in.

I'm in your corner, Vrai.

 

[Hijinx]

I don't know about the majority, but this minority of one blames the kid that did the shooting.
Yes he was crazed, mentally ill, but he was also a coward.
He did not enter a school where the kids were big enough to offer him any threat, he went to a school where the kids were all smaller than himself so they could not have a chance at stopping him. A stinking yellow coward. They are all avoiding calling him a cross dresser or tranny, That doesn't fit their agenda. But there is a picture of him in drag. Was he picked on or bullied. I don't know but if he was it was because he was a coward that he took to killing kids instead of fighting or shooting the bullies.

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

....is that the politicians and the news media and the random rabble are blaming the cops, the guns, the Republicans, the Democrats, the NRA, the defund people ....and there's very little mention of the actual, you know, shooter.

I'm personally inclined to blame him solely for the deaths of those children, but I'm having a hard time finding anyone who also feels that way. They're pointing fingers at everyone.....except the kid who actually did the shooting.

Crazy old world we live in.

Yes. The "blame", rests squarely with the kid. While the "cause", lies with the teacher that left the door open to the school.

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

What I HAVE noticed - is that it doesn't seem to happen at all in Israel, or at nearly the frequency - and given their history, understandable.

I don't think it happens in Russia

Might want to rethink that ....

Six killed in Russian university shooting, gunman in hospital

A student armed with a hunting rifle opened fire at a university in the Russian city of Perm on Monday, killing at least six people and wounding many others, investigators said.

www.reuters.com

Children killed, many wounded, in Russian school shooting

Several children and a teacher were among the dead following a shooting at a Russian school on Tuesday, which left many others wounded.

www.cnbc.com

Moscow school shooter brings an all-too-American tragedy to Russia

Russians are struggling to come to terms with a school shooting that killed two adults, in what might be the first such attack in the country.

www.csmonitor.com

Also, in Israel, they just shoot any age or gender of Palestinians instead.

 

[vraiblonde]

If I may ...


Yes. The "blame", rests squarely with the kid. While the "cause", lies with the teacher that left the door open to the school.

So leaving doors open is what causes mass shootings?

 

[Clem72]

So leaving doors open is what causes mass shootings?

That's like how broken windows cause crime. It was all the sandlot players fault the neighborhood went to hell.

 

[SamSpade]

So leaving doors open is what causes mass shootings?

If you leave your door at HOME locked, chances are good a burglar will ignore it. Thieves take advantage of unlocked cars, homes, purses left unattended. Make it harder - and they will move on. I used to leave my balcony door OPEN when I was home, because I lived on the second floor - until one day I came out of my bedroom and someone WAS THERE - and they went back out through the balcony door.

So no it doesn't cause mass shootings, but it can be an invitation.

Bear in mind, these lunatics are smart enough to attack soft targets - they don't attack army bases or police precincts, no matter how much they claim to HATE them, online. They'll attack Christian churches, or a synagogue - but if they go after a Muslim temple, they might succeed, but the vengeance on their ass will be legendary. No, they attack the places where

1. The SHOCK value alone will make the news and
2. LITTLE chance of opposition - at least at first. No point in going out in a blaze of glory if there are ZERO victims. You'll just die unknown, except possibly for being a complete idiot.

I'm horrified to think of what OTHER soft targets some of these guys will try.

What I have noticed is, they're usually KIDS. Teenagers or early twenties. Kids. I don't know WHAT do with them.

 

[vraiblonde]

That's like how broken windows cause crime. It was all the sandlot players fault the neighborhood went to hell.

Little bastages.

 

[vraiblonde]

What I have noticed is, they're usually KIDS. Teenagers or early twenties. Kids. I don't know WHAT do with them.

Yeah, for all the "see something, say something" that gets drilled into us we STILL don't say something. And if we do, it gets ignored or attacked. Look at all those sociopaths on Twitter - they're right there out in the open making threats of violence and death, saying all kinds of deranged crap, and nobody does a thing about it.

Christy said on her FB that her friend's baby was so adorable she wanted to kidnap it, and FB dinged her for that. I got banned from Twitter for calling Chelsea Handler a skank. That's the kind of crap the social media overlords are focused on so they don't have time to monitor the wacks who are making real threats.

 

[glhs837]

Yeah, for all the "see something, say something" that gets drilled into us we STILL don't say something. And if we do, it gets ignored or attacked. Look at all those sociopaths on Twitter - they're right there out in the open making threats of violence and death, saying all kinds of deranged crap, and nobody does a thing about it.

Christy said on her FB that her friend's baby was so adorable she wanted to kidnap it, and FB dinged her for that. I got banned from Twitter for calling Chelsea Handler a skank. That's the kind of crap the social media overlords are focused on so they don't have time to monitor the wacks who are making real threats.

I threatened to drive over someone with a tank, in a FB group devoted to a game that has tanks. FB told me I had a warning, and that "everyone makes mistakes".

 

[vraiblonde]

I threatened to drive over someone with a tank, in a FB group devoted to a game that has tanks. FB told me I had a warning, and that "everyone makes mistakes".

Isn't it maddening? Yet you could have a group dedicated to child sex trafficking and FB wouldn't say a word to you. You could post all sorts of disturbing things and not get so much as a warning.

I can't believe that's simple lack of oversight - it has to be by design.

 

[SamSpade]

Isn't it maddening? Yet you could have a group dedicated to child sex trafficking and FB wouldn't say a word to you. You could post all sorts of disturbing things and not get so much as a warning.

I can't believe that's simple lack of oversight - it has to be by design.

I used to be an avid follower of #Walkaway on Facebook.

Then early last year - Facebook took it down. The whole group, half a million followers and a few full-time employees.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

A "hate" group, they charged, but Walkaway had people of all races, creeds, sexual orientation - Brandon Straka, its founder, was gay. What they all had in common was, they were - mostly - former Democrats who decided to "walk away". They'd had enough of years of B.S.

If there was a platform that reached as many of my friends and family as FB, I would leave. I use it as a means of contacting just about everything, socially, from my church to my kid's organizations. I keep in touch with distant family and otherwise long lost friends. Sadly nothing is likely to take its place.

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

So leaving doors open is what causes mass shootings?

In this specific case, yes. Had that door been closed, he probably would have kept moving on.

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

If you leave your door at HOME locked,

Someone told me long ago .... That a lock, only keeps honest people honest.