Pete said:
First, I am totally secure in my powers of observation and cognition so you can just save your smug sanctimonious condemnation thereof.
What I am saying is I can write a 1,000,000 page book outlining how to live life but if I allow, participate, and applaud the violation of it it is nothing more than a 1,000,000 page waste of paper.
When is the last Islamic country who has captured and executed a terrorist for atrocities against the West or Jews totally of their own volition?
For something that is prohibited Muslims seem to embrace it and commit it wholesale without credible condemnation.
Why haven't the Imams in Iran and the Saudi Royal family created a force to stamp out the Taliban, Hamas and Hezbolah?
Dear Pete,
If you want me to treat you like an adult, then behave like one. If you want to look like a fool and throw temper tantrums just because someone expresses a belief or idea different from what you were raised with, then be my guest. However, don't expect to be respected as a rational autonomous agent when you do so. If you want me to respect you as a person, then you need to respect me as a person. You don't have to agree with what I'm saying, but you should agree that I have the right to say it since these rights are preserved by the Constitution. Even though what you are espousing is essentially hate speech, my dear friend, I would fight to the death to preserve your right to say it. At this point, I would like to confess that I'm a member of the American Civil Liberties Union. (please don't kill me!). I love freedom probably more than most people on this forum would be comfortable with swallowing.
I'm not sure how up to date you are on the headlines, but different Muslim countries have contributed. If you recall back in the day, Iran offered to provide assistance to Americans in the war on Terrorism. In Pakistan, top leading Al Qaeda officials were captured through the assistance of Pakistani military intelligence and army officials. In Pakistan, the war on terrorism is a low-level civil war. Everyday, Pakistani soldiers come home in body bags as they fight against people who support terrorism. In Saudi Arabia and Yemen, there were several shoot outs where terrorists were killed. Syria has been working along with the US and Canada.
All of those guys at Guantanamo Bay were captured with the assistance of Muslim leaders and countries. I don't buy your argument that Muslim governments aren't doing enough. They are trying their hardest and to say that they haven't done anything is a disservice to those who have fought and died to prosecute terrorists all over the world. We shouldn't make a distinction between such brave soldiers whether they are Muslim or non-Muslim, American or Arab or Pakistani. People all over the world are combatting the evil of terrorism. We need to support them. It undermines their credibility when you say that they haven't done anything and this is something that terrorists feed on.
As I stated repeatedly, there are hundreds of documents on the internet that clearly show the sheer size of Muslim leaders and scholars who have condemned terrorism and have taken active steps in prosecuting it.
If you like, we can create an entirely separate thread that highlights the efforts of such indivduals. Here is an example of one such person:
[URL='Devout Muslim' informer aided in Toronto conspiracy arrests]Devout Muslim Informer Aided in Toronto Terror Arrests[/URL]
Just because its covert and we don't hear about it doesn't mean that no Muslims are doing anything to combat terrorism.
I honestly didn't expect this much hostility to the Muslim faith on these forums.
With Peace
Abdulhaqq