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Why with the ad hominem retorts? Where have I said you could not speak? Where have I attacked you personally? Called you a child or a fool? I did use sarcasm and I did provide numerous examples of what I believe are Muslim attacks against the West and Jews that have been supported, financed and condoned by Muslim leaders and Muslim governments. I suppose by daring to disagree you feel the justification to call me a fool, a bigot and claim I am putting forth "hate". I don't hate muslims, as a matter of fact if I saw Mike beating up a clerk at 7-11 I would be the first one to stop him.abdulhaqq said:
I am a simple person in the grand scheme of things. I judge things and people by their actions, not their words. If Christian fundamentalists were bombing mosques, beheading Muslims, blowing up Hash parlors in Saudi Arabia I would be outraged and hold them in contempt just as I do Muslim radicals. If the leaders of the Christian world did not condemn them and take strong action to stop them, take positive steps to teach tolerance and denounce violence in the most public way I would then hold the entire group in the same contempt.
Syria, quite possibly the #1 exporter of terror helping? Surely you jest. I applaud the Pakistani contribution to the war on terror but it is hardly done without expectation of reward. Pakistan is acting only for their benefit just as Yemen did after the Cole bombing. Pakistan is locked in a long running feud with India over Kashmir and helping us gets them gain 1. The US as an ally, 2. Financial and military aide in the form of hardware, 3. We did not invade them as well and depose their leaders. These countries, Iran included know there are terrorist organizations operating in their borders yet they do nothing until after they strike. Not exactly a unilateral move against terror for the sake of right, but more for the money.
Partially right, all those guys in Getmo were captured "IN" Muslim country, training, staging and operating in full view of the Muslim world untouched, undisturbed and undeterred. They did this for years all along bombing buses, pizza parlors, embassies, Marine barracks and innocent civilians. Only when they overstepped and attacked the US and caused total horror did they move ONLY because they fear reprisals because America had finally had enough.
You want me to show distinction to Syrians who you claim are helping in the war on terror when they assassinate the former prime minister of Lebanon who wanted their occupation forces out? The same Syrians who protect and funnel arms to Hezbollah so they can lob unguided rockets into an Israeli city? Pakistani soldiers who look the other way while terror organizations export opium by the ton to pollute the cities of the West and use the financial gains to make diabolical plans of new and more spectacular ways to kill "the infidel"? I believe you will be waiting a long time for that.
There are hundreds of posts on this forum that say I am the greatest man on the planet, but it does not make it true. We are beyond words, actions, clear decisive actions are what is needed now.
You cannot point to anonymous informers, I want to see the highest ranking Imams and Mullah's go on Al Jazeera and preach day in and day out to stop killing. I want them to urge everyday Palestinians to stop sending their children into crowded bus stations with C4 and blowing themselves and helpless civilians up. I want to hear them tell everyday Muslims there are no 40 virgins in heaven waiting for them if they kill an Jew, in fact they are going to hell. I want to hear them tell everyday Muslims to turn in terrorists even if it is a relative. I want to hear them tell the Lebanese Prime Minister and Assad in Syria to stop the silly madness in trying to eradicate Israel. None of which I have heard or seen.
Well I didn't expect ad hominem attacks simply because I didn't bust out a prayer rug and face Mecca either so I guess we will both be disappointed.
That's not good enough.
