What kind of god would send

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
I thought your formulas answer was 3.2e+32?? That's a LONG way from 6 Billion.

You stated that 6000 years was too short a period for two people to become 6 billion. The formula of population growth under ideal circumstances proves you are wrong by orders of magnitude. Now you are complaining that there would be too many people in 6000 years. Dance or morn will you.

There are other formulas but also generalize but do take into account that a population will tend to level off as the ability of the environment ceases to be able to sustain growth. There are some others too. Pick any of them and do the math. They all indicate that a population can start at 8 and wind up at 6,000,000,000 in a period of 4300 years.

And you are being obtuse as you often are when someone proves that something you have posted is in error. Now swallow hard and say, "Yep, I was mistaken." like a person of character.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
how about this one.
if you cant afford them, dont breed them.
how about you question the parents that just keep popping them out one after another.

much easier to blame God on your bad habits isnt it? that way you dont have to take responsibility for anything you do.

are you sure you are not one of the baltimore slum dwellers? you certainly sound like one.

hey, I place plenty of blame on the parents (as it is entirely their fault when they have children). Why is the child punished was the question.

I have never once said I shouldn't have to accept responsibility for my actions and if you want to keep putting words in my mouth, by all means continue.

Also, I haven't blamed god for my bad habits, so that's another false assumption on your part.

Do you need help with reading comprehension?

also, I've stated where I live a few times on this board (hint: it isn't baltimore).
 

Xaquin44

New Member
You are much like those that Jesus spoke of.
You try to use science to say that those of faith are foolish, but when those of faith use science to prove you incorrect in your assumptions, then you complain that the science must be wrong or that those of faith shouldn't use science.

look, those of faith shouldn't use science .... that's the whole point. When you add fact to faith it isn't faith anymore is it?

It's like saying I have faith that I breath oxygen .... yeah?
 
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toppick08

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look, those of faith shouldn't use science .... that's the whole point. When you add fact to faith it isn't faith anymore is it?

It's like saying I have faith that I breath oxygen .... yeah?

One day you won't........then what.............:smack:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
look, those of faith shouldn't use science .... that's the whole point. When you add fact to faith it isn't faith anymore is it?
Sure it is. Until we can prove the origins of life, the origins of the universe, all else is faith. You may have faith in science, and I may have faith in something with a deeper meaning, but it's all just faith.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
Sure it is. Until we can prove the origins of life, the origins of the universe, all else is faith. You may have faith in science, and I may have faith in something with a deeper meaning, but it's all just faith.

I was talking about more specific things really.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
look, those of faith shouldn't use science .... that's the whole point. When you add fact to faith it isn't faith anymore is it?

It's like saying I have faith that I breath oxygen .... yeah?

Many scientists are Christians.
 
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2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
that statement has nothing to do with what I was saying.

unless they use science to prove god exists, which defeats the point.

Sorry for the personal nature of my last post. I edited it, but too late.

The point is that some, including itsbob, believe that 6000 years or in reality 4300 years is too short a period to have 6 billion people on the earth. All the formula proves is that that belief is incorrect. I did not use it to try to prove God exists. I know God is real by experience that I got through first having faith.
 

Marie

New Member
what about dinosaurs?
There in the Bible! Of course the term dinosaur wasnt created yet (1840) but the Bible talks about the Bohemeeth (probably a wholly Mamoth) The Levithan ( a sea serpant) and Dragons ( Teradactiles that vomitted acid that would disolve your skin)
OBTW
The average dinosaur was under 6 ft tall except for two that I can think of.

How Do Dinosaurs Fit With the Bible?
 
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itsbob

I bowl overhand
Sorry for the personal nature of my last post. I edited it, but too late.

The point is that some, including itsbob, believe that 6000 years or in reality 4300 years is too short a period to have 6 billion people on the earth. All the formula proves is that that belief is incorrect. I did not use it to try to prove God exists. I know God is real by experience that I got through first having faith.

Actually if you read my post where you think I question the math you'll see I didn't question the population, but that Adam and Eve stayed in the Garden of Eden for Thousands or a Hundred Thousand years.. NOT possible if the earth has only existed 6000 years..
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
There in the Bible! Of course the term dinosaur wasnt created yet (1840) but the Bible talks about the Bohemeeth (probably a wholly Mamoth) The Levithan ( a sea serpant) and Dragons ( Teradactiles that vomitted acid that would disolve your skin)
OBTW
The average dinosaur was under 6 ft tall except for two that I can think of.

How Do Dinosaurs Fit With the Bible?

So according to the bible dinosaurs and humans co-existed?? Yeah right...

The Bible talks about sea serpents the same way Greek Mythology does.. it was a MYTH!!

AND that has to be the MOST ignorant website i have EVER seen.

Kids ignore EVERYTHING you are being taught in school.. all your knowledge can be found in the BIBLE!!.. Your teachers are teaching you LIES.. the only truth is in the BIBLE!!

How blinded and ignorant can a person truly be??
 
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2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Actually if you read my post where you think I question the math you'll see I didn't question the population, but that Adam and Eve stayed in the Garden of Eden for Thousands or a Hundred Thousand years.. NOT possible if the earth has only existed 6000 years..

You mean this post?

Well we KNOW Christ was born 2007 years ago..

and we KNOW that the earth is only 6000 years old.. SOOOO it would have to have been in less then a couple hundred years.. I mean to go from 2 people to couple BILLION would take more than a few years I would guess..


And there is no way you can believe Adam and Eve were the ONLY humans on the planet at that time..
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
So according to the bible dinosaurs and humans co-existed?? Yeah right...

The Bible talks about sea serpents the same way Greek Mythology does.. it was a MYTH!!

AND that has to be the MOST ignorant website i have EVER seen.

Kids ignore EVERYTHING you are being taught in school.. all your knowledge can be found in the BIBLE!!.. Your teachers are teaching you LIES.. the only truth is in the BIBLE!!

How blinded and ignorant can a person truly be??

You mean the human footprints found in the dinosaur footprints indicating they were made at the same time are not real? Well, actually, they are. Dinosaur and Human Co-existence: FOOTPRINTS

Of course you will say they are not real.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
You mean this post?

Correct, and if you read the post it refers too you'll see I was talking about how long Adam and Eve were in the garden..

You can't say Adam and Eve were in the garden 5,500 years or even 4,000 years.. if the earth has only been around 6000 years.. take your formula and figure out (starting at 2 people) how many people would be on the earth after 500 years..


And since the flood happend sometime around 2300BC.. and it being 2007 AD.. adam and EVE at the MOST could have been in the Garden 1700 years.. (beacuse we all KNOW humans lived for a thousand years back then).

No formula needed.. it's easy math.. The ark was at 2300 BC... plus 2007 = 4307 - the amount of years the earth has been here totally.. 6000.. = 1693 years.

But we KNOW there were at least a billion people on the earth at the time of the flood (Other mathmetician/ Christians have figured this number to be true.).. so working back from 2300 BC at a Billion people (ok a billion plus Noah's family). How much time would you figure to get back to the original TWO!??

Now we find Dinoasur bones from dinosaurs that were killed during the flood, amongst the one BILLION remains of the people that were killed during the same flood.. oh wait.. human remains.. where did we put those one BILLION sets of remains that were on the earth with these dinosaurs??
 
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