What Say You? Shiavo - the ED Spin...

[nomoney]

Speaking of which, when Terri’s on a slab, are they going to take her slightly used organs and donate them to a needy person??

so she is dead?

 

[workin hard]

so she is dead?

nope you would have heard about it by now...

 

[Railroad]

Now this would of been an interesting way to start the thread... I would like to see some discussion on this... I lean towards the view that if their other chronic illness (alcoholism, bulemia as you mentioned) isn't under control, why should a viable organ be possibly wasted on them when there are soooo many others waiting.

Ah-HAH! Different topic altogether!!

It would be interesting to know what criteria are used to determine the relative merits of one patient over another when selecting the recipient of a donor organ. I'm sure there must be some established protocol for evaluating all the factors and making a decision.

The kind of decisions needed, and the weight of responsibility, are such that I'd have to believe a board is assembled to make the decisions. But I've not researched this (obviously, since it just came up).

 

[virgovictoria]

Now this would of been an interesting way to start the thread... I would like to see some discussion on this... I lean towards the view that if their other chronic illness (alcoholism, bulemia as you mentioned) isn't under control, why should a viable organ be possibly wasted on them when there are soooo many others waiting.

The gal with the new heart, the bulimic, I feel, has the much greater difficulty to face... Her coping mechanism lies in dealing with the world through food, even though eating disorders are NEVER about food/eating. But, the rub is, you cannot ever, never, ever, live without it... Alcoholism, also a coping mechanism, can be managed in recovery, but you can live without alcohol.

In either case, you'll always be recovering... The bulimic will have to practice restraint and self nurture with every care she intakes and will probably have to have been much further along in recovery than the alcoholic to have the self-esteem to agree to the transplant to begin with, much less practice abstinence. The alcoholic will have a much harder time even being granted a position on a donor list... :shrug:

 

[Agee]

Speaking of which, when Terri’s on a slab, are they going to take her slightly used organs and donate them to a needy person??

I heard she is going to be creamated. Family is going to send the ashes to J. Bush.

 

[Daddy_O]

ironic how the topic of a heart to a bulimic was the center for a show last week, can't think of the name but is a good show. the doctor had to lie about the womans condition due to bulimia is a factor that is used to not give a transplant. If it is your fault the organ went bad, they usually don't give the transplant.

 

[AC/DC]

I heard she is going to be creamated. Family is going to send the ashes to J. Bush.

Is he low on carbon?

and it's Michael that wants her toasted, not her family.

 

[unixpirate]

True - I haven't even read the other threads about it... I actually only posted this as a lead in for another story that I am trying to find.

A friend of mine told me about a lady who is a heart transplant recipient - being that her own "gave out" due to bulimia. We were having a discussion on the similarities and differences of how this is like giving a new liver to a recovering alcoholic. So, I actually had a path in mind. However, seeing that the neck hairs are being raised or yawns are increasing in numbers, I'll just let it go.

me, call me dirty names

 

[bresamil]

I have a friend who was born a diabetic. At 38 he needed new kidneys, new liver, new pancreas, and he was going blind. They placed him on the donor list but told him not to hold his breath, since he needed so much. He took himself off the list because he figured someone with a better chance should get the organs. He's only 42 now.

 

[Agee]

Is he low on carbon?

and it's Michael that wants her toasted, not her family.

Something told be not to post in this thread.

 

[kwillia]

I have a friend who was born a diabetic. At 38 he needed new kidneys, new liver, new pancreas, and he was going blind. They placed him on the donor list but told him not to hold his breath, since he needed so much. He took himself off the list because he figured someone with a better chance should get the organs. He's only 42 now.

That was big of him, but sad to say he is probably right... at least he isn't giving himself false hope and can live the rest of his life accordingly.

 

[AC/DC]

Something told be not to post in this thread.

Eh, it's all in fun......let's face it, it's a dead subject. :shrug:

 

[K_Jo]

Something told be not to post in this thread.

Is your nose stuffed up?

 

[dems4me]

ironic how the topic of a heart to a bulimic was the center for a show last week, can't think of the name but is a good show. the doctor had to lie about the womans condition due to bulimia is a factor that is used to not give a transplant. If it is your fault the organ went bad, they usually don't give the transplant.

It was on House, after American Idol.

 

[dems4me]

The gal with the new heart, the bulimic, I feel, has the much greater difficulty to face... Her coping mechanism lies in dealing with the world through food, even though eating disorders are NEVER about food/eating. But, the rub is, you cannot ever, never, ever, live without it... Alcoholism, also a coping mechanism, can be managed in recovery, but you can live without alcohol.

In either case, you'll always be recovering... The bulimic will have to practice restraint and self nurture with every care she intakes and will probably have to have been much further along in recovery than the alcoholic to have the self-esteem to agree to the transplant to begin with, much less practice abstinence. The alcoholic will have a much harder time even being granted a position on a donor list... :shrug:

good post

 

[Daddy_O]

It was on House, after American Idol.

thank you dems....try to watch it often but can't remember the name for some reason...

 

[virgovictoria]

Is your nose stuffed up?

 

[Agee]

Is your nose stuffed up?

I'll have to give myself a whooooooosh, cause that went right over my head

 

[Kyle]

Now this would of been an interesting way to start the thread... I would like to see some discussion on this... I lean towards the view that if their other chronic illness (alcoholism, bulemia as you mentioned) isn't under control, why should a viable organ be possibly wasted on them when there are soooo many others waiting.

Second chances may not always succeed, but they are never "wasted!"

 

[Lenny]

is she dead yet?

Now that Jesse Jackson has come out on her side she's as good a dead. First Slick Willie, then Wacko Jacko. How much longer can Terri have now?