What the Chauvin jury knows and we don't

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
It makes no difference, once placed in cuffs he was under the custody of the State. His safety and welfare was then the responsibility of the State.
Cuffs aren't always the end point. If the person is still fighting the restraint the cops have the right to bring stop him.
 

black dog

Free America
Cuffs aren't always the end point. If the person is still fighting the restraint the cops have the right to bring stop him.
To you is the end point when a person has three men siting on their side and the person in custody has stopped breathing?
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
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To you is the end point when a person has three men siting on their side and the person in custody has stopped breathing?

Let's get real:

Are you really weeping any big tears that this shitbag is no longer on the street? Really?

It's not like Minneapolis has any shortage of scumbags. If the residents want to be robbed, raped, and murdered there are still plenty of folks left who will oblige them.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
If he wanted his day in court he should have sat quietly in the squad car and let them drive him to processing.

in the case of Floyd his fate was sealed when he downed all the drugs trying to hide them ..... the entire process, Floyd just had not died yet

No sympathy for a violent shitbag criminal.

giving shitbags due process is not showing sympathy
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Pig’s head left at former home of Derek Chauvin defense witness


The one-time Northern California home of a use-of-force expert who testified for the defense at the murder trial of ex-cop Derek Chauvin was vandalized over the weekend — with a pig’s head and blood, police said.

Police said in a statement that they believe the Santa Rosa house was targeted because it was once the home of Barry Brodd, a retired cop who testified last week at Chauvin’s murder trial in the death of George Floyd.

“It appears the suspects in this vandalism were targeting Mr. Brodd for his testimony,” the department said. “Mr. Brodd has not lived at the residence for a number of years and is no longer a resident of California.”

“Because Mr. Brodd no longer lives in the city of Santa Rosa, it appears the victim was falsely targeted,” the statement said.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Well I cannot see how any juror can say there is no shadow of a doubt that the Officer is guilty.
There are too many shadows. and if they convict him they are doing it because they are biased or frightened.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
Cuffs aren't always the end point. If the person is still fighting the restraint the cops have the right to bring stop him.
All bets are off if the person is on PCP, and a cop has no way of knowing that until they start fighting. By then, it's already out of control.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
All bets are off if the person is on PCP, and a cop has no way of knowing that until they start fighting. By then, it's already out of control.

Wasn't one of the items mentioned - that Floyd insisted on putting himself on the ground?

This whole story keeps turning into something that the original "image" contradicts - that of a LEO with his knee on the neck of a man face down claiming he can't breathe.

Since then we've learned - his knee wasn't on his neck - that Floyd had BEEN saying he could not breathe a lot earlier, while he was actually standing - and that the medical examiner revealed - he died from the fentanyl - not from having his airway choked off because a cop had his knee on his neck (because - he didn't).

We have someone here making the ridiculous argument that his right to a speedy trial was denied because Floyd was too busy resisting arrest. An argument so utterly stupid, it has to be a borrowed talking point.

NEAR as I can guess - the worst that can happen in a trial is criminally negligent homicide - he died under their care due to negligence or carelessness. And to me, that's about as bad a sentence as possible, based on what even just little old me knows.
 

black dog

Free America
Let's get real:

Are you really weeping any big tears that this shitbag is no longer on the street? Really?

It's not like Minneapolis has any shortage of scumbags. If the residents want to be robbed, raped, and murdered there are still plenty of folks left who will oblige them.
Sure he was a pos, but... In most cases the law cant travel in time to the past.
Lots of folks would be found guilty on their past snd not with the facts and evidence of the case at hand...
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
Sure he was a pos, but... In most cases the law cant travel in time to the past.
Lots of folks would be found guilty on their past and not with the facts and evidence of the case at hand...
Are you always this obtuse. When his past acts are a identical to what was recorded this time, his past behavior is important.
The defense can't show for certain he actually stuffed drugs down his throat, because the video isn't clear and the eye witness has refused to testify.
But given the level of drugs in his system, his past behavior is relevant.
The prosecution is trying to convince the jury he was a sweet little guy, liked to curl up in the fetal position and cuddle with his mama.
 

black dog

Free America
Are you always this obtuse. When his past acts are a identical to what was recorded this time, his past behavior is important.
The defense can't show for certain he actually stuffed drugs down his throat, because the video isn't clear and the eye witness has refused to testify.
But given the level of drugs in his system, his past behavior is relevant.
The prosecution is trying to convince the jury he was a sweet little guy, liked to curl up in the fetal position and cuddle with his mama.

I stopped reading with your first comment....
 
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