What the Gospel of Judas really says

tommyjones

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"but what i said did folow. Religion comes from our inant morals and need for justice"

For those who believe we evolved from something... this makes since. A believer's doctrine is that we are created from God. So our belief is that God created and therefore gave mankind the "law" (morals to many by definition) in which to live.

The argument is like the chicken and the egg... God being creator would have spelled out how to live and so "religion" (your word) would come from God and not man. Those who have deviated from God's plan make religion to their liking.

From a believer's perspective, Philosopher's or any other society and religion only borrowed from that which God ordained. Their religion (from those who deviated) would certainly not be the same, for it has to be modified to fit their belief structure.

Romans 2 defines this very clearly FOR THE believer. Romans 2:12-15 (NIV) "All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15 since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)"

Note verses 14-15.

considering adam and eve deviated, adn we are ALL their children, then all of our religions "would certainly not be the same, for it has to be modified to fit their belief structure. "

seems pretty obvious.
our common ancestor (accepting your version of things) rejected gods rules and therefor were forced out on their own.....
 

fredcaudle

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considering adam and eve deviated, adn we are ALL their children, then all of our religions "would certainly not be the same, for it has to be modified to fit their belief structure. "

seems pretty obvious.
our common ancestor (accepting your version of things) rejected gods rules and therefor were forced out on their own.....
good interpretation... except for "forced" out... they left and were not forced.

Romans 5:12 (NIV) Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man [Adam], and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned
 

fredcaudle

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even the ones who were just born.
What do you mean? Children born were forced out? Not sure your point... If you are implying I think children before the age of accountability die have no hope that would be a wrong interpretation to my belief.

Check out Jesus' teachings about little children.
 
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