what would you do?

[Railroad]

2.It hurt the spirit of the child being belittled to who knows what degree?? That child is bruised for life now.

Sorry to disagree, my friend, but that's nonsense. I don't know who started that load of hooey (might have been Dr. Spock), but it's just flat not true. Fear of bruising the kid's spirit for life is probably behind a lot of the withdrawal of discipline from the job of raising kids. For fear of bruising little Johnny's psyche, little Johnny grows older, probably thinking his parents and most adults are wimps, with an ever-growing chip on his shoulder that ends up in ruination.

 

[renegadeslave]

I think we need more teachers like this. And people wonder why the high schools are peppered with metal detectors. Some kids need to be taught the hard way.

Exactly! Because the kids who are outcasts and constantly picked on by teachers and peers become mass murderers, which is much better.

I'm not saying public humiliation was the way to go, but if other parents/teachers saw what the child did, and said nothing to the teacher, then maybe it was something completely uncalled for. That's why it's best to know the situation before talking to someone else. The teacher could have been having a bad day and the child got on his/her nerves one too many times. Sure, it's not how the situation should have been handled, but we all do things we regret.

 

[kom526]

I re read the original post and it states that there may have been a bathroom accident involved. If this was the case, the manner in which it was handled was not the correct way to address it. There is enough of a stigma involved with having an "accident" at school and then to be berated for it in front of others is salt in the wound. JMHO

 

[kwillia]

I re read the original post and it states that there may have been a bathroom accident involved. If this was the case, the manner in which it was handled was not the correct way to address it. There is enough of a stigma involved with having an "accident" at school and then to be berated for it in front of others is salt in the wound. JMHO

Well, I read the post and it sounded like there isn't enough details known at this point for anyone to be jumping to a final conclusion. If there is cause for concern on a parents part, the parent should address it with the teacher and/or principal.

 

[DoWhat]

I re read the original post and it states that there may have been a bathroom accident involved. If this was the case, the manner in which it was handled was not the correct way to address it. There is enough of a stigma involved with having an "accident" at school and then to be berated for it in front of others is salt in the wound. JMHO

Maybe he took a dump on the floor.

 

[BuddyLee]

NOT. Have to disagree. That teacher belittled a child in front of others. What did that teach anyone?

Respect.

1.It taught the children watching that it is ok to embarrass someone in front of others and that it's entertaining. (Hey! A new bully is born!!)

Isn't this learned about that age anyway?

2.It hurt the spirit of the child being belittled to who knows what degree?? That child is bruised for life now.

And yet life goes on. BTW, how do you know that child is bruised for life from a simple scold? Are you a trained psychologist?

This county is all about NOT hurting a childs self respect when it comes to passing them through the school system instead of holding them back a grade when necessary or requested by a parent (and I know this from experience) I'll be damn@d if I'd stand by witness this and not say something

And its not about "my child would never do a thing such as that". When it comes down to it I feel more sorry for the teachers than the children or parents. Furthermore, I would much rather break a child early so that they hopefully will take something of learned use out of the experience than to have them be a broke cracky who robs me 20 years from now.

 

[mAlice]

When I was 15 my father came home from work to find me out front, hanging out with my friends. I walked in the house and discovered I had not done my chores. He came back out and told me to send my friends home until I had completed the chores. I told him no, I was not going to send them home, that I'd do my chores after they left. He turned me over his knee and spanked me. In front of my friends. Before that day, my father had never disciplined me. The humiliation worked and I never challenged him again.

When we came to southern Maryland, my daughter completed the 2nd grade at Ridge Elementary. As we walked down the hall to take her to her new class and new teacher, I heard an adult woman yellilng. It was my daughter's new teacher. I told myself she must be having a bad day, it will be okay. It never was. In addition to being made painfully aware of the fact that she was an outsider by her peers, she was yelled at and humiliated by her teacher, the one person who should have put a stop to the other student's behavior, the one person that should have behaved like an adult.

I must have been a bad mother because I just tried to smooth it over at home. I kept telling myself it, and her, that it wasn't as bad as it sounded, and that my daughter was being overly sensitive.

Nearing the end of the school year, the class had an end of year party at Point Lookout. I couldn't get out of work that day, so wasn't able to chaperone. While at work I got a call from my daughter asking me to come and get her, that she didn't feel well. Upon my arrival, her teacher greeted me and said she was glad I was able to join them after all. I told her my daughter had called and asked me to pick her up. She looked confused, and wasn't aware that my daughter had called. She asked her how she had called. Daughter said she walked away from the group and used the pay phone. The teacher became angry and began yelling and berating her in front of the entire group, with me standing there no less.

All of a sudden it became very clear to me and I was compelled to humiliate her in return. She's lucky that's all I did to her.

Due to the response I got from the principal, my daughter did not return to Ridge Elementary.

I wish someone had told me that my child was being mistreated.

 

[josmom]

Oh great, You have a story about Ridge Elementary school.. We just moved and my daughter will be starting there on Monday, Do you happen to still remember this womans name? My daughter is not in 2nd grade yet, but we will probably still be in that school then, and I would like to know who to watch out for. TIA

 

[Suz]

When I was 15 my father came home from work to find me out front, hanging out with my friends. I walked in the house and discovered I had not done my chores. He came back out and told me to send my friends home until I had completed the chores. I told him no, I was not going to send them home, that I'd do my chores after they left. He turned me over his knee and spanked me. In front of my friends. Before that day, my father had never disciplined me. The humiliation worked and I never challenged him again.

When we came to southern Maryland, my daughter completed the 2nd grade at Ridge Elementary. As we walked down the hall to take her to her new class and new teacher, I heard an adult woman yellilng. It was my daughter's new teacher. I told myself she must be having a bad day, it will be okay. It never was. In addition to being made painfully aware of the fact that she was an outsider by her peers, she was yelled at and humiliated by her teacher, the one person who should have put a stop to the other student's behavior, the one person that should have behaved like an adult.

I must have been a bad mother because I just tried to smooth it over at home. I kept telling myself it, and her, that it wasn't as bad as it sounded, and that my daughter was being overly sensitive.

Nearing the end of the school year, the class had an end of year party at Point Lookout. I couldn't get out of work that day, so wasn't able to chaperone. While at work I got a call from my daughter asking me to come and get her, that she didn't feel well. Upon my arrival, her teacher greeted me and said she was glad I was able to join them after all. I told her my daughter had called and asked me to pick her up. She looked confused, and wasn't aware that my daughter had called. She asked her how she had called. Daughter said she walked away from the group and used the pay phone. The teacher became angry and began yelling and berating her in front of the entire group, with me standing there no less.

All of a sudden it became very clear to me and I was compelled to humiliate her in return. She's lucky that's all I did to her.

Due to the response I got from the principal, my daughter did not return to Ridge Elementary.

I wish someone had told me that my child was being mistreated.

I was waiting for you to chime in since you normally have a good response to shiat like this (and we tend to agree most times about it).


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BUDDY LEE: quote "And yet life goes on. BTW, how do you know that child is bruised for life from a simple scold? Are you a trained psychologist?" end quote

No, I'm not. I am a individual who went through this. So I learned from true experience. And I am a Mom-who witnessed the same type of treatment to my son. Did I stand there and 'take it'? Hell no. Is that teacher still working in this school system? NO.

And I have NEVER been one of those parents who felt "my child would never do a thing such as that". Kids are kids, I was once one too. I am not stupid or ignorant.

Buddy lee I usually find humor in your posts, or see something 'bright'. Not this time, but then you still have time to grow............. Come see me in 10 years when you have kids to see if you still feel the same as you do now.

 

[nomoney]

Furthermore, I would much rather break a child early

What? are you comparing a child to a wild horse?

 

[Suz]

Respect.

Isn't this learned about that age anyway?

And yet life goes on. BTW, how do you know that child is bruised for life from a simple scold? Are you a trained psychologist?

And its not about "my child would never do a thing such as that". When it comes down to it I feel more sorry for the teachers than the children or parents. Furthermore, I would much rather break a child early so that they hopefully will take something of learned use out of the experience than to have them be a broke cracky who robs me 20 years from now.

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chicken shiat for not signing!

 

[Suz]

What? are you comparing a child to a wild horse?

good one nomoney!

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[AC/DC]

I just love it when those without children tell parents how to raise their children.

 

[Kain99]

Being a parent is not an easy job. I have three teenagers whom I will call "Great Kids!" However I have recently begun to sit back and take stock. I made mistakes. Big ones! It is obvious at this point in their lives that I was to nice and to soft.

I fell for the POP 101 crap the originator of this post is falling for. Life is tough and kids won't be coddled and babied forever. There is nothing to be gained by rushing in and filing a complaint. In the end, this kid and his parents will suffer for it.

Mind your own business and if you are kissing your kids azz just remember he's not going to grow up and kiss yours.

Love Kain99

 

[BuddyLee]

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chicken shiat for not signing!

Likewise my dear.

 

[BuddyLee]

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BUDDY LEE: quote "And yet life goes on. BTW, how do you know that child is bruised for life from a simple scold? Are you a trained psychologist?" end quote

No, I'm not. I am a individual who went through this. So I learned from true experience. And I am a Mom-who witnessed the same type of treatment to my son. Did I stand there and 'take it'? Hell no. Is that teacher still working in this school system? NO.

And I have NEVER been one of those parents who felt "my child would never do a thing such as that". Kids are kids, I was once one too. I am not stupid or ignorant.

Buddy lee I usually find humor in your posts, or see something 'bright'. Not this time, but then you still have time to grow............. Come see me in 10 years when you have kids to see if you still feel the same as you do now.

Perhaps you didn't catch my generalization. No one knew exactly what happened to the child mentioned in this thread nor was I focusing on that or any six year old for that matter. I was merely generalizing the lack of discipline 'some' children seem to have these days and the little teachers can do about it. However, as mentioned in Elaine's post, adults can lack discipline and common decency as well.

 

[K_Jo]

I'm a big fan of indecency.

 

[remaxrealtor]

Daughter said she walked away from the group and used the pay phone. The teacher became angry and began yelling and berating her in front of the entire group, with me standing there no less.


Do you think this might have been the teacher's reaction to her wandering off and not asking permission to call you?

 

[mAlice]

Do you think this might have been the teacher's reaction to her wandering off and not asking permission to call you?

Do you think yelling and berating a child in front of his/her peers is the appropriate reaction?

 

[Kain99]

Daughter said she walked away from the group and used the pay phone. The teacher became angry and began yelling and berating her in front of the entire group, with me standing there no less.


Do you think this might have been the teacher's reaction to her wandering off and not asking permission to call you?

We are crippling our children... I can remember being little and my Dad yelling "Debbie!" If I said "What?'" He went ballistic! That was disrespectful.

GD we are ruining our kids today..... I am just as guilty as the rest of ya. Mouthy little bahhhhstads!