What's your biggest disappointment with 9-11?

[LordStanley]

Similiar to New Orleans getting all the press and the rest of Louisana and Missispi being ignored

Exactly!!!!!!!

 

[Merlin99]

1. The ridiculous use of the word 'homeland'. Domestic is fine. US is fine. America is fine. 'Homeland' alludes to Germany's 'Fatherland' and the old Soviet 'Mother Russia' thing. We're America. Melting pot. Immigrants. Remember? This has bugged me from day one.

The term Drug Czar must reall tick you off, almost sounds like he should be the bad guy.

 

[vraiblonde]

The term Drug Czar must reall tick you off, almost sounds like he should be the bad guy.

I don't like the term "Drug Czar". I think it sounds stupid and fascist, which was probably the intention of the media freaks who actually coined the term.

 

[vraiblonde]

And to my ignorant karma leaver:

http://www.gao.gov/decisions/appro/303495.htm

We also find that ONDCP's use of the term "Drug Czar" to describe the Director of ONDCP does not constitute unlawful self-aggrandizement. This term was apparently coined in the news media many years ago and is in common usage today.

In fact, the term "Drug Czar" was first used by the media to describe Bill Bennett's position in the Bush I White House, for anyone old enough to remember.

So there.

 

[Bronwyn]

So what's your biggest beef with 9-11? I'm not talking about the war or the fact we haven't even come close to catching Bin Laden.... But what about here in the States?

I have to say IMO the political bureaucracy in NY city takes the cake!!! The simple fact that today marks five years later there's absolutely nothing to show but a huge crater where the towers stood proud has to be the worst reprenstation in this Country.

Nothing says to the terrorists that they have succeeded [in some form] better than this. The towers should have been built back, bigger and taller then before and in record time.

I saw a thing on Penn and Tellers' show Bull#### about this and the amount of "politics" and "posturing" that's been going for five years is sickening.

When a suicide bomber blows himself up at the market in Israel the authorities react quickly. They show up quickly, clear the debris, bodies and broken glass within two hours. New glass is put in place and life quickly swarms back into the market. Not saying that we could do the same in NY, but we should have acted fast too. Clean it up and rebuild. Don't let them keep us down or scar us for life! JMO

 

[sugarmama]

BS..... It wasn't the governments fault, they didn't plan it, nor did they fly the planes into the building.. IF you are going to sue someone sue the countries that financed the terrorists, freeze Osama's assets, sue him.. I can't think of ANY good reason for the Gov't to do what they did.

Then there were the few ungrateful #####es that thought the 2 or 3 million dollars was an insult. Greedy, I hope they end up with nothing and have to borrow money from their household help to buy groceries.

I completely agree. I was just saying that I think that's what the families were thinking.

 

[LordStanley]

When a suicide bomber blows himself up at the market in Israel the authorities react quickly. They show up quickly, clear the debris, bodies and broken glass within two hours. New glass is put in place and life quickly swarms back into the market. Not saying that we could do the same in NY, but we should have acted fast too. Clean it up and rebuild. Don't let them keep us down or scar us for life! JMO

cleaning up a Isreal market is a little different that cleaning up
200,000 tons of steel
425,000 cubic yards of concrete
43,600 windows
12,000 miles of electric cables
office equipment, damaged subways beneath, dead bodies
Weighing in at 500,000 tons

took 7 years to build in the first place....

I bet the isreal markets dont have to deal 2 years of design contests with political B.S. thrown in to rebuild the damage

 

[Mikeinsmd]

Political correctness by the TSA at airports. It was 20-40 year old middle eastern males involved with EVERY bombing in the last 10 years (except OK). Why are they searching Grandma?

Any idiot who doesn't think you should profile!!!

And Bustem, I'm not even gonna argue with ya because I saw your post where you said you'll take the opposite stance just to rile folks even if you agree....

 

[vraiblonde]

I bet the isreal markets dont have to deal 2 years of design contests with political B.S. thrown in to rebuild the damage

And THIS is the main reason why that space stands empty to this day.

 

[Bronwyn]

cleaning up a Isreal market is a little different that cleaning up
200,000 tons of steel
425,000 cubic yards of concrete
43,600 windows
12,000 miles of electric cables
office equipment, damaged subways beneath, dead bodies
Weighing in at 500,000 tons

took 7 years to build in the first place....

I bet the isreal markets dont have to deal 2 years of design contests with political B.S. thrown in to rebuild the damage

I do realize the difference in the task. I just feel that ground zero is still a gaping wound that needs to be mended. Where are we now with that five years later?

 

[Hessian]

Anger , Theories & 9/11

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51836

A very insightful look at why conspiracy theories cripple the war effort.
Blind hatred is just that! (but it is dangerous too!)

 

[LordStanley]

I do realize the difference in the task. I just feel that ground zero is still a gaping wound that needs to be mended. Where are we now with that five years later?

I see your passion, but its just not that easy. They started the plans in 1962 for the world trade center. It took 4 years just to break ground. Then 7 years later, having workers work no stop, they finally finished...

Here is some stats http://www.infoplease.com/spot/wtc1.html

and pictures of the progress and to put into perspective of the shear size of the task at hand. Look at how much they need to restore, before even attempting to rebuild.
http://www.panynj.gov/drp/gallery/showPics.php?year=06&month=cr08&pnav=crpicstble

 

[SamSpade]

Something that was described better on Jerry Doyle's radio show - a lack of heroism, and a permanent sense of victimhood.

I don't want us all singing and remembering, ten years from now, that terrible day when they attacked us - I want us frickin' dancing on the graves of the bastages who did it, and make it a yearly event. On Jerry Doyle's show, they brought up a story about a kid who was being buried on 9/11 after having been killed in Iraq. He was 18 years old.

Which means, he was 13, on 9-11-2001.

HIS reaction to the towers being brought down? He went to his parents and said "I want to be a Marine". At 13, he wasn't boo-hooing. Like the firefighters who ran **INTO** the collapsing towers to save people, his reaction was not to remember the victims but to remember the bastages who DID it - so he could kill them himself. A warrior mentality.

He went on to describe men like Pat Tillman - who turned down millions to become a ranger and go to fight. Maybe you don't see this as heroic, but it describes a warrior mentality that when faced with an enemy, wastes no time in going to fight it, rather than quietly mourn those who have fallen.

I'm tired of mourning. I've always been tired of mourning. I guess I'm bothered by the fact that I'm less angry than I used to be.

 

[itsbob]

Something that was described better on Jerry Doyle's radio show - a lack of heroism, and a permanent sense of victimhood.

I don't want us all singing and remembering, ten years from now, that terrible day when they attacked us - I want us frickin' dancing on the graves of the bastages who did it, and make it a yearly event. On Jerry Doyle's show, they brought up a story about a kid who was being buried on 9/11 after having been killed in Iraq. He was 18 years old.

Which means, he was 13, on 9-11-2001.

HIS reaction to the towers being brought down? He went to his parents and said "I want to be a Marine". At 13, he wasn't boo-hooing. Like the firefighters who ran **INTO** the collapsing towers to save people, his reaction was not to remember the victims but to remember the bastages who DID it - so he could kill them himself. A warrior mentality.

He went on to describe men like Pat Tillman - who turned down millions to become a ranger and go to fight. Maybe you don't see this as heroic, but it describes a warrior mentality that when faced with an enemy, wastes no time in going to fight it, rather than quietly mourn those who have fallen.

I'm tired of mourning. I've always been tired of mourning. I guess I'm bothered by the fact that I'm less angry than I used to be.

AMEN!!

 

[slaphappynmd]

I didn't get a cookie!

 

[Dickinsmd]

That our borders still aren't sealed.

 

[truby20]

1. The ridiculous use of the word 'homeland'. Domestic is fine. US is fine. America is fine. 'Homeland' alludes to Germany's 'Fatherland' and the old Soviet 'Mother Russia' thing. We're America. Melting pot. Immigrants. Remember? This has bugged me from day one.

I thought I was the only one who felt this way! The use of "homeland" is just nauseating...hopefully it will be dropped once congress realizes what a waste combining all of those agencies was.

 

[Bustem' Down]

And Bustem, I'm not even gonna argue with ya because I saw your post where you said you'll take the opposite stance just to rile folks even if you agree....

No, I'll take the opposite side just to create a good and entertaining argument. Only occasionally and rarely do I do it to rile people up.

 

[Bustem' Down]

I don't like the term "Drug Czar". I think it sounds stupid and fascist, which was probably the intention of the media freaks who actually coined the term.

Ironically, a Czar is not facist at all. Its a King, a monarch. It would be like calling Queen Elizabeth II a facist. I think they use Czar because it looks and sounds cool and has a connection to Russia, even though it was an anathema to Socialists.

 

[Larry Gude]

No...

The term Drug Czar must reall tick you off, almost sounds like he should be the bad guy.

...that one didn't really bother me because the word 'Tsar' doesn't mean or say as much as thinking of your country as 'homeland' or 'motherland' or 'fatherland' when we're talking about a nation of immigrants.

'Drug Tsar' is funny because it's the media saying out loud 'we're that stupid' and 'we think you people are as well'.