Where is God?

[dems4me]

Well if he is everywhere, then He is ALREADY in the bodies of believers, yes?

some things can be in two places at once... take wind for example... there can be wind in China and wind blowing here in SoMd... both winds are primarily made up of the same thing :shrug: Why can't the Lord (in spirit) be in two places at the same time such as wind :shrug: It is omnipresent.

 

[Ms. Othmar]

He respects free will. He will not enter into you, if you do not accept Him. That is the exception.

But God is I N F I N I T E -- The Alpha and the Omega, the up and the down, the in and the down, etc. etc.

If God is infinite, then He is everywhere, by definition.

Perhaps, then, He is also in the hearts of non-Christians (or whoever you or I want to label a non-believer). Yet, through free will, the non-believers chooses not to accept or recognize it.

Sort of like if I found just found out that I was left a million dollars by an essentric, long-lost relative 20 years ago.

So, for the past 20 years, I really was a millionaire. I just didn't know it. And, in not knowing it, I sure was miserable, running up debt and cursing the fact that I was always broke.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I will try this one last time. God respects free will. You can chose to accept or reject Him, but it is a conscience choice. He is omnipresent in that He is all around us and the universe. He only lives, indwells, those that invite Him. That is as plain as it gets. Now I am done.

As for you Toxic, your name says it all.

 

[Toxick]

As for you Toxic, your name says it all.

Thank you.




BTW:Check your sarcastometer again. I think it's broken.

 

[Ms. Othmar]

I have come to realize that you are here, not for enlightenment but for argument. Have a nice day.

Boy, you are quick to judge.

I am not trying to argue. I am here for enlightenment. Enlightenment comes from questioning what you (think you) know, no?

 

[Sharon]

So, for the past 20 years, I really was a millionaire. I just didn't know it. And, in not knowing it, I sure was miserable, running up debt and cursing the fact that I was always broke.

In saying that, you seem to be cursing yourself and trying to place the blame on God.

 

[Sharon]

BTW:Check your sarcastometer again. I think it's broken.

I understood you and I think we've found that rock.

 

[Ms. Othmar]

Quick now: ask him if God is so omnipotent can He make a rock so heavy that He can't lift it.

I have actually heard a pretty good, insightful answer to that conundrum but can't recall it now.

...anyone?

 

[2ndAmendment]

Thank you.




BTW:Check your sarcastometer again. I think it's broken.

I don't do sarcasm. As I have posted several times, sarcasm rarely works in person and so very rarely works in text as it is impossible to read facial expression or body language. Those that try to use sarcasm on the Internet are practicing an exercise in futility.

 

[vraiblonde]

Perhaps, then, He is also in the hearts of non-Christians (or whoever you or I want to label a non-believer). Yet, through free will, the non-believers chooses not to accept or recognize it.

That's the way I've always understood it.

 

[dems4me]

But God is I N F I N I T E -- The Alpha and the Omega, the up and the down, the in and the down, etc. etc.

If God is infinite, then He is everywhere, by definition.

Perhaps, then, He is also in the hearts of non-Christians (or whoever you or I want to label a non-believer). Yet, through free will, the non-believers chooses not to accept or recognize it.

Sort of like if I found just found out that I was left a million dollars by an essentric, long-lost relative 20 years ago.

So, for the past 20 years, I really was a millionaire. I just didn't know it. And, in not knowing it, I sure was miserable, running up debt and cursing the fact that I was always broke.

I think if you compare scripture in light of other scripture... it states that the spirit is in the heart of the believers... if it was in the heart of everyone whether believers or not - it would have stated everyone. Instead, our lives are just a blip on a radar screen to determine our eternity. And that is based on whether you have let the Lord into your heart or not and have accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior. In my opinion, if you are an unbeliever, you could not have possibly done so. :shrug:

 

[Ms. Othmar]

In saying that, you seem to be cursing yourself and trying to place the blame on God.

No, no... just trying to come up with an example.

Forget that I said I was cursing the fact that I was always broke.

Was I a millionaire simply by having the money or did it also "require" (for lack of better word) the knowledge that I had the money? I couldn't spend it if I didn't know I had it, right?

 

[Toxick]

I am not trying to argue. I am here for enlightenment. Enlightenment comes from questioning what you (think you) know, no?

Your tone and the types of responses you are supplying are not unique.

Your tone and the types of responses you are supplying are often the tone and types of responses issued from people who already have their minds made up, and have a stock set of questions which are begged, and snappy answers to go with them.

Much like my comment above about God and the heavy rock.

Your tone is challenging and overeager, rather than inquisitive.



You can say 2nd is quick to judge, but I came to the same conclusion after your first post. It's called experience. This argument is not new, not unique, and will likely wither and die like all the ones before it.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Boy, you are quick to judge.

I am not trying to argue. I am here for enlightenment. Enlightenment comes from questioning what you (think you) know, no?

Not judging. I am just quick to break off discussion from someone who seems to have a disruptive agenda. A Christian's job is not to convince, just proclaim. No one can be talked into believing.

 

[Toxick]

Those that try to use sarcasm on the Internet are practicing an exercise in futility.

That's it.

I'm going home, and throwing out all my satire.

 

[dems4me]

No, no... just trying to come up with an example.

Forget that I said I was cursing the fact that I was always broke.

Was I a millionaire simply by having the money or did it also "require" (for lack of better word) the knowledge that I had the money? I couldn't spend it if I didn't know I had it, right?

this is apples to oranges... money is a tangible item... the spirit is just that... the holy spirit.

by definition, you are a millionaire regardless whether you are aware of it or not... in terms of religion... you don't just serendipituously become a beliver by happenstance and are unaware of if. You need to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and let him enter your heart - has nothing to do with money. JMO

 

[Sharon]

I couldn't spend it if I didn't know I had it, right?

You spent it, not knowing whether you had it or not, you just thought you were in debt. Maybe had you dug a little deeper in your troll hole you'd have noticed it.

 

[2ndAmendment]

That's it.

I'm going home, and throwing out all my satire.

I remember that you and I went around on this before.

 

[Toxick]

I remember that you and I went around on this before.

Yeah, and the outcome will likely be the same.


Six months from now, I'm going to make a sarcastic response, and you are going to get offended, and I'll throw my hands up and say "hey - just kidding".




And then six months after that...

 

[jazz lady]

Yeah, and the outcome will likely be the same.


Six months from now, I'm going to make a sarcastic response, and you are going to get offended, and I'll throw my hands up and say "hey - just kidding".




And then six months after that...

:groundhogday: