WHere Was God?

[Kain99]

The story of Job is a wonderful lesson in taking what life hands you and being joyful anyway. Don't you know people who are disabled or have had some terrible tragedy happen to them, yet they still keep their chin up and have a positive outlook? It's because no matter how bleak things look, there's always something to be thankful for. Silver linings and all.

Man, all this healthy living has gone to my head. If April wasn't so close, I'd go kill a bag of Cheetos.

Ya know something Vrai.... If Ihadn't just seen the most horifying thing of my life in Fishn's tread.... I 'd probably be able to respond.

However... I am now officially and totally brain dead.

I'll sleep and get back with something reasonable.

 

[POOH]

Look here Pooh In those times folklores was a way to keep people in line.
They was uneducated,, So the fear of God was installed because of lack of laws.

I see why your in the red

we needed folklores to make god seem bigger than he was so we could keep people in line
I see now that we is educated we don't need the fear of god cause we got laws and know that god cant kill us in a flood or some other way

WTF is that

 

[Kain99]

we needed folklores to make god seem bigger than he was so we could keep people in line
I see now that we is educated we don't need the fear of god cause we got laws and know that god cant kill us in a flood or some other way

WTF is that

That... Is your reflection.

 

[BuddyLee]

Maybe your God but not mine..... My God wants his babies to climb in his lap at the end of the day and tell him what is going on.

My God Loves.

My God this my God that.

If someone were to try to convince me of the existence of God in this fashion it would not work. If there is a God, how do you know so much about him? How do you know what he thinks, feels or plans if he even does. You're interpretation of God is no different than the local fry cook's belief. In a nut shell, no one knows jack. Everyone has their own little perception of what their God is all about. I like to think there is a God out there but I am not going to live my life pursuing him. I do things my way which is usually the 'right way' according to the bible.

 

[gumbo]

My God this my God that.

If someone were to try to convince me of the existence of God in this fashion it would not work. If there is a God, how do you know so much about him? How do you know what he thinks, feels or plans if he even does. You're interpretation of God is no different than the local fry cook's belief. In a nut shell, no one knows jack. Everyone has their own little perception of what their God is all about. I like to think there is a God out there but I am not going to live my life pursuing him. I do things my way which is usually the 'right way' according to the bible.

Mr. B.L. Everyone has a different relationship with God our father.

Lets just say a Man has 9 children.
As adults each sibling will have his or her own relationship with their father,
even though he loves them equally

Is it right for one sibling to be upset at the other because one has a better relationship with the father. (a better understanding)

Unfortunately siblings do.

Unfortunately Gods chidren (us) react in the same manner.




It's funny, no matter how someone feels about God.
When they get hurt , the first thing out of their mouth is OH GOD.

 

[Kain99]

My God this my God that.

If someone were to try to convince me of the existence of God in this fashion it would not work. If there is a God, how do you know so much about him? How do you know what he thinks, feels or plans if he even does. You're interpretation of God is no different than the local fry cook's belief. In a nut shell, no one knows jack. Everyone has their own little perception of what their God is all about. I like to think there is a God out there but I am not going to live my life pursuing him. I do things my way which is usually the 'right way' according to the bible.

I honestly, wasn't trying to convince anyone to believe in God.

Unfortunately for me, all I have is "my perception" ... Just like you.

 

[Magnum]

Untill recently I have always been the person that would say show me proof. Show me scientific proof, Something tangible. But lately I have been trying to get out of that, trying to believe in something I have never seen, never heard, and never really studied. It's hard, I have to give religious people credit, it takes a lot of will power to believe, and I am trying. I have started trying to study a bit, trying to educate myself on the matter, which I have found that if that is what I continue to do I will see/learn/read something. What I need is too feel, believe, and that is what I'm trying to do.

 

[Kain99]

Untill recently I have always been the person that would say show me proof. Show me scientific proof, Something tangible. But lately I have been trying to get out of that, trying to believe in something I have never seen, never heard, and never really studied. It's hard, I have to give religious people credit, it takes a lot of will power to believe, and I am trying. I have started trying to study a bit, trying to educate myself on the matter, which I have found that if that is what I continue to do I will see/learn/read something. What I need is too feel, believe, and that is what I'm trying to do.

That's great Magnum! I'm a little different than some Christians.

I think you draw closer to God by watching a sunset or holding a new born baby than you ever will, reading the Bible.

But that's just me....

 

[gumbo]

Untill recently I have always been the person that would say show me proof. Show me scientific proof, Something tangible. But lately I have been trying to get out of that, trying to believe in something I have never seen, never heard, and never really studied. It's hard, I have to give religious people credit, it takes a lot of will power to believe, and I am trying. I have started trying to study a bit, trying to educate myself on the matter, which I have found that if that is what I continue to do I will see/learn/read something. What I need is too feel, believe, and that is what I'm trying to do.

It's kind of like Love. You feel it , then you go with it.

 

[Magnum]

That's great Magnum! I'm a little different than some Christians.

I think you draw closer to God by watching a sunset or holding a new born baby than you ever will, reading the Bible.

But that's just me....

Well Untill about 2 months ago I had never been to church. So I've got alot of learning to do

 

[Kain99]

Well Untill about 2 months ago I had never been to church. So I've got alot of learning to do

I think you're awesome....

 

[Magnum]

I think you're awesome....

Well Thank you

 

[Penn]

A Retiring News Columnist's Views on Heroes and God

Ben Stein's Last Column...

This is not political

For many years Ben Stein has written a biweekly column for the online website called "Monday Night At Morton's." (Morton's is a famous chain of Steakhouses known to be frequented by movie stars and famous people from around the globe.) Now, Ben is terminating the column to move on to other things in his life. Reading his final column is worth a few minutes of your time.

Ben Stein's Last Column... (read all of this or you will have missed the best).
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How Can Someone Who Lives in Insane Luxury Be a Star in Today's World?

As I begin to write this, I "slug" it, as we writers say, which means I put a heading on top of the document to identify it. This heading is "eonlineFINAL," and it gives me a shiver to write it. I have been doing this column for so long that I cannot even recall when I started. I loved writing this column so much for so long I came to believe it would never end.

It worked well for a long time, but gradually, my changing as a person and the world's change have overtaken it. On a small scale, Morton's, while better than ever, no longer attracts as many stars as it used to. It still brings in the rich people in droves and definitely some stars. I saw Samuel L. Jackson there a few days ago, and we had a nice visit, and right before that, I saw and had a splendid talk with Warren Beatty in an elevator, in which we agreed that Splendor in the Grass was a super movie. But Morton's is not the star galaxy it once was, though it probably will be again.

Beyond that, a bigger change has happened. I no longer think Hollywood stars are terribly important. They are uniformly pleasant, friendly people, and they treat me better than I deserve to be treated. But a man or woman who makes a huge wage for memorizing lines and reciting them in front of a camera is no longer my idea of a shining star we should all look up to.
How can a man or woman who makes an eight-figure wage and lives in insane luxury really be a star in today's world, if by a "star" we mean someone bright and powerful and attractive as a role model? Real stars are not riding around in the backs of limousines or in Porsches or getting trained in yoga or Pilates and eating only raw fruit while they have Vietnamese girls do their nails.

They can be interesting, nice people, but they are not heroes to me any longer. A real star is the soldier of the 4th Infantry Division who poked his head into a hole on a farm near Tikrit, Iraq. He could have been met by a bomb or a hail of AK-47 bullets. Instead, he faced an abject Saddam Hussein and the gratitude of all of the decent people of the world.

A real star is the U.S. soldier who was sent to disarm a bomb next to a road north of Baghdad. He approached it, and the bomb went off and killed him.

A real star, the kind who haunts my memory night and day, is the U.S. soldier in Baghdad who saw a little girl playing with a piece of unexploded ordnance on a street near where he was guarding a station. He pushed her aside and threw himself on it just as it exploded. He left a family desolate in California and a little girl alive in Baghdad.

The stars who deserve media attention are not the ones who have lavish weddings on TV but the ones who patrol the streets of Mosul even after two of their buddies were murdered and their bodies battered and stripped for the sin of trying to protect Iraqis from terrorists.

We put couples with incomes of $100 million a year on the covers of our magazines. The noncoms and officers who barely scrape by on military pay but stand on guard in Afghanistan and Iraq and on ships and in submarines and near the Arctic Circle are anonymous as they live and die.

I am no longer comfortable being a part of the system that has such poor values, and I do not want to perpetuate those values by pretending that who is eating at Morton's is a big subject.

There are plenty of other stars in the American firmament...the policemen and women who go off on patrol in South Central and have no idea if they will return alive; the orderlies and paramedics who bring in people who have been in terrible accidents and prepare them for surgery; the teachers and nurses who throw their whole spirits into caring for autistic children; the kind men and women who work in hospices and in cancer wards.

Think of each and every fireman who was running up the stairs at the World Trade Center as the towers began to collapse. Now you have my idea of a real hero.

We are not responsible for the operation of the universe, and what happens to us is not terribly important. God is real, not a fiction; and when we turn over our lives to Him, He takes far better care of us than we could ever do for ourselves. In a word, we make ourselves sane when we fire ourselves as the directors of the movie of our lives and turn the power over to Him.

I came to realize that life lived to help others is the only one that matters. This is my highest and best use as a human. I can put it another way. Years ago, I realized I could never be as great an actor as Olivier or as good a comic as Steve Martin...or Martin Mull or Fred Willard--or as good an economist as Samuelson or Friedman or as good a writer as Fitzgerald. Or even remotely close to any of them.

But I could be a devoted father to my son, husband to my wife and, above all, a good son to the parents who had done so much for me. This came to be my main task in life. I did it moderately well with my son, pretty well with my wife and well indeed with my parents (with my sister's help). I cared for and paid attention to them in their declining years. I stayed with my father as he got sick, went into extremis and then into a coma and then entered immortality with my sister and me reading him the Psalms.

This was the only point at which my life touched the lives of the soldiers in Iraq or the firefighters in New York. I came to realize that life lived to help others is the only one that matters and that it is my duty, in return for the lavish life God has devolved upon me, to help others He has placed in my path. This is my highest and best use as a human.


Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will.
By Ben Stein

Interesting point of view.

 

[BuddyLee]

That's great Magnum! I'm a little different than some Christians.

I think you draw closer to God by watching a sunset or holding a new born baby than you ever will, reading the Bible.

But that's just me....

That's pretty much how I feel. I can get some things from reading the bible but I just don't feel God's presence (if there is one). I more so feel it by seeing things so beautiful that it is hard to comprehend.

 

[justin anemone]

Though no one (but HE) knows the time, the end times are surely upon us. He didn't create the tsunami, it happened. Those people weren't targets, they were part of destiny. Our world has been falling into degradation. We need the return of the Lord, and it's surely coming. How will we react in the face of adversity? How will we be received into the gates of heaven? We will face many things in the coming years to test our faith. How we respond will determine our destinies.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I don't know whether the tsunami was an act of God or a natural disaster. I cannot read His mind and He has not revealed His intent. I would suspect that it was a natural disaster. From what I read in the Bible, God warns man through His prophets when He is planning on wiping out a bunch of people like He did with Sodom and Gomorrah or when He sent the plagues against Egypt. The Bible does say that God's power is shown in natural things.

Psalm 77:17-19
17The clouds poured out water;
The skies gave forth a sound;
Your arrows flashed here and there.

18The sound of Your thunder was in the whirlwind;
The lightnings lit up the world;
The earth trembled and shook.

19Your way was in the sea
And Your paths in the mighty waters,
And Your footprints may not be known.

Jeremiah 23:18-20
18"But who has stood in the council of the LORD,
That he should see and hear His word?
Who has given heed to His word and listened?

19"Behold, the storm of the LORD has gone forth in wrath,
Even a whirling tempest;
It will swirl down on the head of the wicked.

20"The anger of the LORD will not turn back
Until He has performed and carried out the purposes of His heart;
In the last days you will clearly understand it.

Nahum 1:2-4
2A jealous and avenging God is the LORD;
The LORD is avenging and wrathful
The LORD takes vengeance on His adversaries,
And He reserves wrath for His enemies.

3The LORD is slow to anger and great in power,
And the LORD will by no means leave the guilty unpunished
In whirlwind and storm is His way,
And clouds are the dust beneath His feet.

4He rebukes the sea and makes it dry;
He dries up all the rivers
Bashan and Carmel wither;
The blossoms of Lebanon wither.

There are others. Make up your own mind about it. I am not sure. I do think (no special knowledge - yet - I'll let you know if any is revealed) we are in the beginning of the last days and these things will be like "birth pangs". As birth contractions get more intense and closer together, I think these things will happen more often and get more intense.

May God direct us all to His way. In His love, 2A.

 

[vraiblonde]

From what I read in the Bible, God warns man through His prophets when He is planning on wiping out a bunch of people

To be fair, God DID warn people about the tsunami - they just didn't pay attention. Lots of people survived because they saw nature preparing to smack them in the head - shores rapidly receding, animals freaking out, etc. - and reacted accordingly. There was some hotel manager that saved a bunch of people because he saw these signs and cleared the beach in front of his hotel.

 

[2ndAmendment]

To be fair, God DID warn people about the tsunami - they just didn't pay attention. Lots of people survived because they saw nature preparing to smack them in the head - shores rapidly receding, animals freaking out, etc. - and reacted accordingly. There was some hotel manager that saved a bunch of people because he saw these signs and cleared the beach in front of his hotel.

Heard similar tales. A guy on a motor scooter saw the water pull back and screamed for everyone to run; an old lady that had been through another tsunami saw the same thing and told the people around her to run.

 

[gumbo]

To be fair, God DID warn people about the tsunami - they just didn't pay attention. Lots of people survived because they saw nature preparing to smack them in the head - shores rapidly receding, animals freaking out, etc. - and reacted accordingly. There was some hotel manager that saved a bunch of people because he saw these signs and cleared the beach in front of his hotel.

It's funny how animals and birds sense these things.

And humans are the intelligent species ?

I think we stay wrapped up in our own BS selfish life's so much we don't pay attention to our surroundings.

 

[BuddyLee]

And humans are the intelligent spices ?

I had no idea spices had any kind of intellect.