Hijinx
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For every old one you can name I can name 5 who didn't make it.
Who had "Chandler" in the "First Friend to die" pool?
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That’s why you don’t talk in absolutes. Every single time you say something’s this ways always someone’s going to take it as a challenge to find the outlier.
Clem72
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Oh yeah? Well you just stated an absolute, but i'm not gonna spend any time to find a counter example.
SamSpade
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I honestly don't know how anyone could conclude that from what I wrote, nor how you might conclude that, about me.
I'm keenly aware of how popular the show was - my wife was a fan. I considered buying her the series once, as a present. I never watched much TV before meeting her, I didn't own a TV in the 80's, rarely watched anything on TV in the 90's except movies, and I never saw shows like Dallas or Miami Vice or The Cosby Show - but I know who JR Ewing, Sonny and Tubbs and The Huxtables were. Ditto 90's shows.
I simply do NOT get an outpouring of five days of news broadcasts about the death of a member of a show that ended twenty years ago. I'm pretty sure I will see more, today. I think if he had NOT died but simply vanished into obscurity, no one would be asking, hey whatever happened to Matthew Perry? If Michael Richards - Cosmo Kramer - passed away, would it generate the same sentiment, for a week?
Because it just happens that cast members of popular shows - often, that's the peak of their career, and many years later, people have largely forgotten them. Like Richards. We may have fond memories of them, in that role, but after that role, fans often ignore them. Ditto rock stars - we fondly remember them and are disappointed when they die young - but we just don't make much of a fuss if they've been largely off the screen or radio for many years.
Well you know how those people like to make it all about themselves. Most of them probably never even met the guy but are tweeting and TikToking how devastated they are just for attention.
"Me too!"
But they and their audience are also of an age that Friends was a big deal to them. I was more of a Seinfeld fan, Friends was too young for me, but anyone under the age of 50 was all about Friends back in the day.
My remark wasn't a knock on you, it's just acknowledging that you (and I) aren't in the age demo that would be all torn up about The One Where Chandler Dies. But I can certainly see why, for a couple of reasons, there's been such an enormous outpouring of grief.
You know what's interesting, though:
I can't think of another career field where most of your co-workers are drug addicts and alcoholics, not to mention sexual deviants. To the point where you think nothing of it, and it's only noteworthy when someone you work with *isn't* a substance abuser or predator.
Supposedly all the Friends were BFFs IRL, yet here's Matthew Perry spiraling out of control destroying himself and apparently nobody thought to intervene. I don't have any friends who are addicts. I don't even know anyone who's an addict. Yet in Hollywood, EVERYONE they know is an addict.
I can't think of another career field where most of your co-workers are drug addicts and alcoholics, not to mention sexual deviants. To the point where you think nothing of it, and it's only noteworthy when someone you work with *isn't* a substance abuser or predator.
Supposedly all the Friends were BFFs IRL, yet here's Matthew Perry spiraling out of control destroying himself and apparently nobody thought to intervene. I don't have any friends who are addicts. I don't even know anyone who's an addict. Yet in Hollywood, EVERYONE they know is an addict.
Politics?
Imagine having those slimebags as your co-workers.
Most of their appointees are about the same.
We know his secret now. He never gets in a hot tub.
SamSpade
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Could be exactly why his Friends weren't all over him for an intervention. Being high and drunk is just the normal state of affairs.
I've had construction and factory jobs way back when, where everyone drank or got high. Just not at work, and IF you showed up at work stoned or drunk, you got sent home. sometimes for good.
I also think it's why Washington is a little leary of corruption probes - they are ALL guilty at some level, of scratching someone's back for a campaign contribution. ALL OF US know that fund-raising galas EXIST for rich people to show up, pledge money IN EXCHANGE for something.
Hell no.
Food service.
frequentflier
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i didn't watch TV much in the 80's and 90's (sometimes I was too poor to own one!)
When I had my store, several of the people that worked with me ranted about Friends and I was able to figure out how to somewhat watch the series in sequence.
It did nothing for me- I guess I kept expecting it to improve and it never did. I disliked the male characters and Jennifer A is a mediocre actress at best. I went through a few seasons and decided I had better things to do with my time.
When I had my store, several of the people that worked with me ranted about Friends and I was able to figure out how to somewhat watch the series in sequence.
It did nothing for me- I guess I kept expecting it to improve and it never did. I disliked the male characters and Jennifer A is a mediocre actress at best. I went through a few seasons and decided I had better things to do with my time.
I thought Friends was entertaining. I rarely watched it when it was a regular show, just saw it in reruns. Monello was a big fan of Ally McBeal, so I felt like he should like Friends as well. We binged it from the start not too long ago and he was underwhelmed.
I love, love, love this show. This was a true TV appointment for me and my sister every week. I loved every character, as I could see my own friends in each one of them. I was really surprised how saddened I was to hear about his death. I don't usually react like that to celebrity news. I actually teared up when I read his quotes regarding not wanting to be remembered for Friends once he died. I guess it's true that when you invite these people into your living room every week for 10 years, you create some sort of bond.
Kinnakeet
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There are no good drugs left because they are all in Keith Richards body