Why would anyone look to the Catholic Church when

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Chuckt

Guest
Umm, yeah, ok. Like I said, salvation by grace. *Your interpretation* is on your side; I could easily say the bible is on my side as well, but it's really *my interpretation* of it. Until you get this through your head you're going to come across a lot of opposition. Stop being proud. I'm guessing you know what the bible says about pride, right?

As far as my interpretation goes, Paul is here speaking specifically of the Jews in Romans, and that puts things into a different light now doesn't it.

Btw, I never said work was faith. I said they go hand-in-hand because of grace.

Of particular concern to Paul were those to whom this letter was written—those in Rome who were “loved by God and called to be saints” (Romans 1:7).

http://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Romans.html

It is actually nonsense because much of the book of Romans is written to believers today.

[video=youtube;8-grivcX1S8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-grivcX1S8[/video]
 

Radiant1

Soul Probe
Paul was addressing Christians and referring to Jews. The verses before that clarify. It's not a hard concept to understand, or at least I didn't think so.

Are you flat out rejecting salvation by grace? Or, are you just trying to convince me and other Catholics that we believe something we don't?

As far as I know not one Catholic has left their faith by people like you attacking it; however I am aware of a couple people who have inquired about Catholicism after reading our explanations of it. So, what can I say? Keep up the good work and thank you for allowing us this opportunity to present our faith more fully. Cheers! :huggy:
 
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Chuckt

Guest
Paul was addressing Christians and referring to Jews. The verses before that clarify. It's not a hard concept to understand, or at least I didn't think so.

Are you flat out rejecting salvation by grace? Or, are you just trying to convince me and other Catholics that we believe something we don't?

As far as I know not one Catholic has left their faith by people like you attacking it; however I am aware of a couple people who have inquired about Catholicism after reading our explanations of it. So, what can I say? Keep up the good work and thank you for allowing us this opportunity to present our faith more fully. Cheers! :huggy:

Then maybe they will meet the real Jesus.
 

nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
Monsignor Carlin Said It Best.....

“Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!(G. Carlin)
 
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