Wolf As Pet

Radiant1

Soul Probe
Yep, we did. Tarheel Tamaskans out of Elizabeth City, NC. Looked at the website today and the puppies were born 2/4/09.

Awwww! Now you just had to go show a pic of the dame and pups. I have a tax refund coming that is already burning a hole in my pocket. I'm sure they're already spoken and paid for. Even if they're not I'm going to tell myself that anyway! :lol:

:banghead: Must. Not. Spend. Two. Grand. On. A. Dog!! :banghead:
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
Awwww! Now you just had to go show a pic of the dame and pups. I have a tax refund coming that is already burning a hole in my pocket. I'm sure they're already spoken and paid for. Even if they're not I'm going to tell myself that anyway! :lol:

:banghead: Must. Not. Spend. Two. Grand. On. A. Dog!! :banghead:

I backed out when the "war" began between the Nat'l Tamaskan Club of America and the Tamaskan Club of America. The TCA is saying that Tarheel aren't registered breeders and they are filing a complaint with the BBB. NTCA is saying they are registered breeders. Don't really know who to believe as I don't know which organization carries the most weight. Since the AKC isn't involved in the breed, there's probably no way of finding out who is right.

Personally, I don't care if they are "true" Tamaskans or not. I just like the looks of them. I could understand close to $1000 for one because I paid almost that much for my Malamute.
 

Radiant1

Soul Probe
I backed out when the "war" began between the Nat'l Tamaskan Club of America and the Tamaskan Club of America. The TCA is saying that Tarheel aren't registered breeders and they are filing a complaint with the BBB. NTCA is saying they are registered breeders. Don't really know who to believe as I don't know which organization carries the most weight. Since the AKC isn't involved in the breed, there's probably no way of finding out who is right.

Personally, I don't care if they are "true" Tamaskans or not. I just like the looks of them. I could understand close to $1000 for one because I paid almost that much for my Malamute.

Interesting. I can't say as I blame you as nobody would want to spend that kind of cash only to find out later that the dog's papers are worthless. The in-fighting probably has a lot do with breeding control and capitalizing on the $. No doubt the AKC won't bother with the Tamaskan for a long time to come. They only recently recognized the Border Collie as legitimate and BC's have been around for a long time.
 

TinaB

New Member
War???

I backed out when the "war" began between the Nat'l Tamaskan Club of America and the Tamaskan Club of America. The TCA is saying that Tarheel aren't registered breeders and they are filing a complaint with the BBB. NTCA is saying they are registered breeders. Don't really know who to believe as I don't know which organization carries the most weight. Since the AKC isn't involved in the breed, there's probably no way of finding out who is right.

Personally, I don't care if they are "true" Tamaskans or not. I just like the looks of them. I could understand close to $1000 for one because I paid almost that much for my Malamute.


Hi, this is Tina from Tarheel Tamaskan. I like to search and check on our kennel name every now and then. I noticed that you guys were discussing the "war" and did want to set the record straight. You guys seem very informed about the Tamaskan breed:) my compliments to you for your research! I love these dogs and would do anything to protect them. I do not want to bad mouth Right Puppy Kennel, Icewind Farms, or any others who have joined them...I will only speak the facts and you may back them up with the following research. If you have any questions please let me know. If I do not have the answers I will get someone from the TDR with the answer.

The TCA (Tamaskan club of america) is NOT selling pure Tamaskans. This man had 3 when he started out 1 1/2 yrs ago. He introduced a male last year named "tumble"...he admitted this was not a Tamaskan...and there is no record of that dog on the TDR registry. You will see on the site "Tamaskan Wolfdog" used...and mixed with the "Tamaskan" term now and then. He likes to confuse people as to what he does have. We have had plenty people talk to the NTCA and complain about him. He notes on his litter page that we (Tarheel Tamaskan) are not recognized breeders of the Tamaskan Wolfdog...and that is TOTALLY CORRECT. WE DO NOT HAVE WOLFDOGS! That is a name he came up with when could not get another Tamaskan. No one will sell to this man based on his past with the Tamaskan registered breeders. We have pure Tamaskans that can be backed up by the TDR. (Tamaskan Dog Register) These are the governing people overseas...who provide the pedegree for our dogs. He has forged pedegrees, and the TDR has a copy of one that shows a male who was castrated long ago and never had been a stud due to being a monochrid.
He became enraged after he was booted from the NTCA Jan 2008 after he broke rules and regulations of Tamaskan breeders. He then started the TCA. To confuse people about the NTCA (National Tamaskan Club of America) and that one has been around longer...believe me! I have been in office as secretary for a year now. He has threatened some of us, some of the NTCA members have pending legal action against him. OH! He did try to put a complaint against us (Tarheel Tamaskan) on the BBB. It was found to be bogus. You can; however, find that he really has a BBB complaint from the NTCA and see it here by cut and paste: BBB of Northwest North Carolina: BBB Reliability Report

I met that man when he was to have his first (and only) registered litter. We even talked about buying a male from him at that time, until his true colors showed. He has a puppymill with another dog breed. This is NOT allowed with Tamaskan breeders. We do not want our dogs in puppymills. He had 40 other shibu inu dogs when we saw his 3 tamaskans...since then he has kept multiple females from his first couple of litters to mate with the uknown (utanogen?) male. The pups do not look much like Tamaskans now...very sad. Yes, they look different...he is adding back more of what was bred out. I just wanted to set the record straight:) I will be happy to answer any questions...

The TDR link: http://www.tamaskan-dog.com/index2.htm
The NTCA link: The National Tamaskan Club of America | Home
our link of breeders: Tarheel Tamaskan - Breeders
Great Brittian link http://www.tamaskan-dog.co.uk/

please don't let a man such as this guy deter you from this beautiful breed. He wants to confuse the public and tries hard to do so to make money. If you look at the Right Puppy Kennel site, you will see that he is offering military discounts, referal bonus, and uses the option to paypall your payment! What else can I say? I hope this helps...

Thanks! Tina B
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
Hi, this is Tina from Tarheel Tamaskan. I like to search and check on our kennel name every now and then. I noticed that you guys were discussing the "war" and did want to set the record straight. You guys seem very informed about the Tamaskan breed:) my compliments to you for your research! I love these dogs and would do anything to protect them. I do not want to bad mouth Right Puppy Kennel, Icewind Farms, or any others who have joined them...I will only speak the facts and you may back them up with the following research. If you have any questions please let me know. If I do not have the answers I will get someone from the TDR with the answer.

The TCA (Tamaskan club of america) is NOT selling pure Tamaskans. This man had 3 when he started out 1 1/2 yrs ago. He introduced a male last year named "tumble"...he admitted this was not a Tamaskan...and there is no record of that dog on the TDR registry. You will see on the site "Tamaskan Wolfdog" used...and mixed with the "Tamaskan" term now and then. He likes to confuse people as to what he does have. We have had plenty people talk to the NTCA and complain about him. He notes on his litter page that we (Tarheel Tamaskan) are not recognized breeders of the Tamaskan Wolfdog...and that is TOTALLY CORRECT. WE DO NOT HAVE WOLFDOGS! That is a name he came up with when could not get another Tamaskan. No one will sell to this man based on his past with the Tamaskan registered breeders. We have pure Tamaskans that can be backed up by the TDR. (Tamaskan Dog Register) These are the governing people overseas...who provide the pedegree for our dogs. He has forged pedegrees, and the TDR has a copy of one that shows a male who was castrated long ago and never had been a stud due to being a monochrid.
He became enraged after he was booted from the NTCA Jan 2008 after he broke rules and regulations of Tamaskan breeders. He then started the TCA. To confuse people about the NTCA (National Tamaskan Club of America) and that one has been around longer...believe me! I have been in office as secretary for a year now. He has threatened some of us, some of the NTCA members have pending legal action against him. OH! He did try to put a complaint against us (Tarheel Tamaskan) on the BBB. It was found to be bogus. You can; however, find that he really has a BBB complaint from the NTCA and see it here by cut and paste: BBB of Northwest North Carolina: BBB Reliability Report

I met that man when he was to have his first (and only) registered litter. We even talked about buying a male from him at that time, until his true colors showed. He has a puppymill with another dog breed. This is NOT allowed with Tamaskan breeders. We do not want our dogs in puppymills. He had 40 other shibu inu dogs when we saw his 3 tamaskans...since then he has kept multiple females from his first couple of litters to mate with the uknown (utanogen?) male. The pups do not look much like Tamaskans now...very sad. Yes, they look different...he is adding back more of what was bred out. I just wanted to set the record straight:) I will be happy to answer any questions...

The TDR link: http://www.tamaskan-dog.com/index2.htm
The NTCA link: The National Tamaskan Club of America | Home
our link of breeders: Tarheel Tamaskan - Breeders
Great Brittian link http://www.tamaskan-dog.co.uk/

please don't let a man such as this guy deter you from this beautiful breed. He wants to confuse the public and tries hard to do so to make money. If you look at the Right Puppy Kennel site, you will see that he is offering military discounts, referal bonus, and uses the option to paypall your payment! What else can I say? I hope this helps...

Thanks! Tina B

Thanks for the info but they are still to expensive for me to justify buying one. I have a purebred Malamute with champion lines and she didn't cost nearly as much and the breed/kennel has the backing of the AKC which I value. They are still beautiful dogs and I will continue to admire them, just not from my own house. :lol:
 

TinaB

New Member
NO problem

Thanks for the info but they are still to expensive for me to justify buying one. I have a purebred Malamute with champion lines and she didn't cost nearly as much and the breed/kennel has the backing of the AKC which I value. They are still beautiful dogs and I will continue to admire them, just not from my own house. :lol:


No problem:) It isn't for everyone as they are new in the USA. We only have a few breeders and they are health testing and taking their time to produce healthy dogs. Of course, someone will try and come along and "crank out" more any way they can and sell them at a lower cost. A lot of record keeping and testing went into this breed to get it where it is now. People can buy a labradoodle instead of a poodle...but, don't call it a poodle. I say call it what it is...plain and simple:) I love Malamutes...I bet he/she is gorgeous! Thanks for letting me set the record straight here...apparently he does not like the term "puppymill" as my husband has recieved a call this AM to "watch his wife!" ...and the drama goes on...it's sad really. :cds:

Tina:buddies:
 
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JustinB

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Here's some pictures of my neighbors dog. She likes to come over to the treat window. I'm sure she's some kind of Husky mix with the blue eyes but I think she looks like a wolf.
 

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RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
No problem:) It isn't for everyone as they are new in the USA. We only have a few breeders and they are health testing and taking their time to produce healthy dogs. Of course, someone will try and come along and "crank out" more any way they can and sell them at a lower cost. A lot of record keeping and testing went into this breed to get it where it is now. People can buy a labradoodle instead of a poodle...but, don't call it a poodle. I say call it what it is...plain and simple:) I love Malamutes...I bet he/she is gorgeous! Thanks for letting me set the record straight here...apparently he does not like the term "puppymill" as my husband has recieved a call this AM to "watch his wife!" ...and the drama goes on...it's sad really. :cds:

Tina:buddies:

Just curious. When are you planning on breeding again? I saw on your site that all the puppies have been adopted out.

Here's my girl....
 
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Dukesdad

Well-Known Member
In the early 80's my brother had two of them that came from down south, maybe North Carolina... I "think" the big studs name might have been Apache??
They were great looking dogs; I think they were 13/16ths wolf or something like that. The male was freakin huge.
 

TinaB

New Member
hi again

Just curious. When are you planning on breeding again? I saw on your site that all the puppies have been adopted out.

Here's my girl....


Hi again,

We will skip a heat cycle before we breed her again. It would be around Nov-Dec time frame. We do not believe in back to back breeding in the NTCA/ TDR. You will notice that puppymills do practice back to back breeding, though. It is questionable and a whole other can of worms about that. There are such things as accidental breedings.... but, I digress. I will have to show you guys some new pics:) Nice pics of your dogs, by the way:) go to Tarheel Tamaskan - Home to check them out:howdy: Tina
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
Hi again,

We will skip a heat cycle before we breed her again. It would be around Nov-Dec time frame. We do not believe in back to back breeding in the NTCA/ TDR. You will notice that puppymills do practice back to back breeding, though. It is questionable and a whole other can of worms about that. There are such things as accidental breedings.... but, I digress. I will have to show you guys some new pics:) Nice pics of your dogs, by the way:) go to Tarheel Tamaskan - Home to check them out:howdy: Tina

Really? I'm kind of surprised you'd do it that soon. Although my dog's dad was used with other females, her mom wasn't bred again for almost two years.
 

TinaB

New Member
Really? I'm kind of surprised you'd do it that soon. Although my dog's dad was used with other females, her mom wasn't bred again for almost two years.

Honestly, that is the soonest we can breed her. We won't attempt it until then. She would have to be in good health, also. She had this litter without any problems at all. In fact, she kept on good weight and wonderful appetite throughout. She is in great health. I do not know why the mom of your dog was a two year wait? Females can only be bred from for a short amount of years...then they retire:) I would never want to hurt my girl. I hear the AKC recommends breeding a female in consecutive heats may be healthier and decrease scar tissue on the female. We follow the TDR guidlines at this time as the breed isn't recognized by the AKC and is so new. In a female of breeding age...they must be through at least two heat cycles and have their health tested prior to having pups. I know the puppy mills will put the male at just six months old to a ##### to try and mate! The ##### may be only through one heat cycle with that as well...very sad. You can imagine whom I am refering to.... There are minimum requirements to breeding and we insist on health testing and waiting the appropriate time limits.
 

TinaB

New Member
Honestly, that is the soonest we can breed her. We won't attempt it until then. She would have to be in good health, also. She had this litter without any problems at all. In fact, she kept on good weight and wonderful appetite throughout. She is in great health. I do not know why the mom of your dog was a two year wait? Females can only be bred from for a short amount of years...then they retire:) I would never want to hurt my girl. I hear the AKC recommends breeding a female in consecutive heats may be healthier and decrease scar tissue on the female. We follow the TDR guidlines at this time as the breed isn't recognized by the AKC and is so new. In a female of breeding age...they must be through at least two heat cycles and have their health tested prior to having pups. I know the puppy mills will put the male at just six months old to a ##### to try and mate! The ##### may be only through one heat cycle with that as well...very sad. You can imagine whom I am refering to.... There are minimum requirements to breeding and we insist on health testing and waiting the appropriate time limits.


LOL...apparently you can't use the female name for dog on here or you get #### in case you were wondering what in the world was going on..lol:killingme
 

virgovictoria

Tight Pants and Lipstick
PREMO Member
I'm surprised at the number of folks that confuse Huskies and Malamutes with Wolves/Wolf Hybrids.

I've been owned by 2 Huskies as a yewt, then owned by 4 more Huskies and my current 2 Malamutes as an adult. My girls (Mals) have had the highest amount of identity issues - via the eyes of the public.

Folks think it's cool to have "Snow Dogs" or "Wolf Dogs" or "Cool Looking Dogs w/Cool Looking Eyes" or a number of other reasons. But, they are a total handful. :faint:

Instinct and intelligence mixed with a cat-like need for lonership and come-to for affection confuse folks looking for easy trainablity and response. :lol: Moreover they train you! :duel:

With that said, having a wolf as a pet would add that additional degree of separation and lonership needs and no doubt a lot of instinctive actions that will frighten unaccostomed owners.

If you don't truly understand what the wolf is bred to be all about, you'd be nuts to consider trying to "own" one.

I know I wouldn't consider it at this point. :shrug:
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
Folks think it's cool to have "Snow Dogs" or "Wolf Dogs" or "Cool Looking Dogs w/Cool Looking Eyes" or a number of other reasons. But, they are a total handful. :faint:

I think Malamutes are pretty dogs, but I wouldn't own one. I severely dislike huskies. :lol: People get them and then complain, "My husky pulls me on the leash!" DUH! :lmao: What did you think you were getting? Plus, they're mouthy (loud), tend to be bad with small animals, and they are great escape artists. No thanks. :lol:
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
I'm surprised at the number of folks that confuse Huskies and Malamutes with Wolves/Wolf Hybrids.

I've been owned by 2 Huskies as a yewt, then owned by 4 more Huskies and my current 2 Malamutes as an adult. My girls (Mals) have had the highest amount of identity issues - via the eyes of the public.
Folks think it's cool to have "Snow Dogs" or "Wolf Dogs" or "Cool Looking Dogs w/Cool Looking Eyes" or a number of other reasons. But, they are a total handful. :faint:

Instinct and intelligence mixed with a cat-like need for lonership and come-to for affection confuse folks looking for easy trainablity and response. :lol: Moreover they train you! :duel:

With that said, having a wolf as a pet would add that additional degree of separation and lonership needs and no doubt a lot of instinctive actions that will frighten unaccostomed owners.

If you don't truly understand what the wolf is bred to be all about, you'd be nuts to consider trying to "own" one.

I know I wouldn't consider it at this point. :shrug:

:yeahthat: I get that all the time when I take my dog for a walk. Although I love Huskys too, I get annoyed that I have to say over and over again that she's a Malamute. I understand the confusion although if you really knew about Malamutes and Huskys, you'd be able to spot the differences. Most people don't though. I also get alot of comments about the Ididarod (sp?). Malamutes are used to pull weight but aren't made for distance races. They are way too bulky, IMHO, to last that kind of distance at that kind of pace.
 
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