Woman beaten on Baltimore bus...........

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
One article said they were 14-15 years old, so they could have been some pretty big kids. Supposedly the driver dialed 911 and a couple passengers were injured trying to break it up. Not sure how many non-students were on the bus at the time. If it was mostly other kids they may have been too scared to do anything.

The article said their bus passes had been given to them by the school. I am a little confused by that since it was a city bus. Must be part of a program or something. Anyway - who knows what really started it? If they were not letting her sit down they were wrong. If she called them names she was wrong, but not wrong enough for them to then start whaling the tar out of her and breaking bones in her face. They showed no respect for somebody older and no regard for human life. I don't know what her boyfriend was doing. I read that the bus driver pulled the bus over and called the police. This was senseless and brutal.
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
In some cities older students don't ride school buses, so maybe that is the case in Baltimore? I know students ride city buses in DC and NYC.
 

SpriteZero

New Member
WBAL.com has a bit more info on this "attack"
Bus Attack A Hate Crime Or Provoked By Victim?
Friday, December 07, 2007
WBAL Radio and The Associated Press






Maryland Transit Administration Police are investigating Tuesday's attack aboard a Baltimore bus as a hate crime.

Twenty-six-year-old Sarah Kreager suffered broken facial bones and other injuries after she was punched, kicked and dragged off the bus by nine middle school students. A man with Kreager, Troy Ellis, was also beaten.

Kreager and Ellis are white and the students are black.

Transit police say they have found no evidence that the attack was provoked. They continue to examine video from a surveillance camera on the bus.

But some City middle school students are disputing the police version of this week's assault of a woman on an MTA bus.

The Examiner is reporting that some Poole Middle School students who were on the Number 27 bus at around 3 on Tuesday say the 26-year-old woman started the fight and used the "N" word.

The students say the woman and her boyfriend started the fight that left the woman with broken bones in her left eye socket and other injuries to her head.

One of students who rides that bus says the woman used the "N" word and punched one of the students riding the bus.

But that flies in the face of what the woman told MTA police.

The students are charged with aggravated assault and destruction of property. Police say the teens could face additional charges. Police have identified two additional victims, a third passenger and the bus driver.


Like others have said, there is more to this than what is being initally reported.
I will wait for the results of the video tape exam.
Sad that there is a racial slat to this as it may spark other attacks.

But IF she used hateful language, knowing what would result in, she put herself in harms way.
It may be useless to expect a goup of older middle schoolers to restrain themselves from a percieved attack on themselves and their culture.
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
But IF she used hateful language, knowing what would result in, she put herself in harms way. It may be useless to expect a goup of older middle schoolers to restrain themselves from a percieved attack on themselves and their culture.

So, if I look at you like I may hate you, it's OK for you to bust a cap?

If I sneer at you, it's OK for you to kick the living bejesus out of me?

If I call you ######, it's OK for you and your hommes to whail away to your heart's content?

Thanks to the Reverand, Dr. Jesse Jackson, I guess the answer to the above are all 'Yes.' Since they are all 'entitled' they are excused from conformance to social mores and common decency.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
But IF she used hateful language, knowing what would result in, she put herself in harms way.
It may be useless to expect a goup of older middle schoolers to restrain themselves from a percieved attack on themselves and their culture.

IF she did drop the N-bomb and this was their reaction then they are doing more damage to their "culture" (or lack thereof) than a mere word would or could.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
The students say the woman and her boyfriend started the fight that left the woman with broken bones in her left eye socket and other injuries to her head.
One of students who rides that bus says the woman used the "N" word and punched one of the students riding the bus.
Lord knows those little angels wouldn't lie about a thing like that.
 

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
Lord knows those little angels wouldn't lie about a thing like that.

The newer report now has the kids saying there was a knife involved too. The kids also attacked the boyfriend, an elderly passenger and the bus driver when he tried to help. Somehow I am not believing these kids and I think they are trying to justify their actions .
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
If a knife was produced then at least one of them should have bled on the deck.




Now that's a knife!
 
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ImnoMensa

New Member
Its certainly not surprising that these kids claim the victim called them a racial name. There is no way to finish this story without playing that funky race card.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
The newer report now has the kids saying there was a knife involved too. The kids also attacked the boyfriend, an elderly passenger and the bus driver when he tried to help. Somehow I am not believing these kids and I think they are trying to justify their actions .

Ya think?? Boy you're quick...

THEY (the kids ) aren't trying to justify anything. It sounds to me like ADULTS, and their parents are trying to concoct a story for them to get over on the crime. Probably people from the local church helping too, yanno, someone like a local Rev Al or Rev Jesse.. "These kids were VICITMS.. praise Jesus.. "
 

forestal

I'm the Boss of Me
maybe they would have laid you out.. Sounds like whitey was definitely outnumbered on that particular bus.


Regardless of what she said.

If I saw a bunch of punk kids doing this I would have laid them out and would have had no qualms doing it...
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
maybe they would have laid you out.. Sounds like whitey was definitely outnumbered on that particular bus.

I guess you would of just assimilated right into them and they'd be cool with you, just like the radical muslims are?:rolleyes:
 

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
Ya think?? Boy you're quick...

THEY (the kids ) aren't trying to justify anything. It sounds to me like ADULTS, and their parents are trying to concoct a story for them to get over on the crime. Probably people from the local church helping too, yanno, someone like a local Rev Al or Rev Jesse.. "These kids were VICITMS.. praise Jesus.. "

From what I read it sounded more like the kids were trying to get their butts out of trouble by claiming the woman and/or her boyfriend had called them names and had pulled a knife on them. The old "We wasn't doing anything and they started messin' with us." routine. If there was something more today I haven't read it yet.
 

cwo_ghwebb

No Use for Donk Twits
maybe they would have laid you out.. Sounds like whitey was definitely outnumbered on that particular bus.

You could have loved them til they stopped kicking your face in. Me, I'd make sure a few of them would require knee surgery.
 

forestal

I'm the Boss of Me
Sounds like they were vicious. If you had taken out a couple of knees, they would probably have pounded on you until you stopped breathing.

You don't appreciate the weak position you would have been in. Yeh, they are probably smaller than you, but there are lots more of them than you. They neutralized two adult man and an adult woman that they really didn't have any serious gripe. Imagine how they would have taken care of someone that they were really angry with. Likely some of them had knives too. You'd be a pin cushion bubba.


You could have loved them til they stopped kicking your face in. Me, I'd make sure a few of them would require knee surgery.
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
Sounds like they were vicious. If you had taken out a couple of knees, they would probably have pounded on you until you stopped breathing.

You don't appreciate the weak position you would have been in. Yeh, they are probably smaller than you, but there are lots more of them than you. They neutralized two adult man and an adult woman that they really didn't have any serious gripe. Imagine how they would have taken care of someone that they were really angry with. Likely some of them had knives too. You'd be a pin cushion bubba.
You got beat up a lot as a kid didn't you. :killingme
 
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