Woman caught after 32 years in hiding.

ImnoMensa

New Member
I can only guess from the responses here that if we ever catch D.B. Cooper , who is probably an oil speculator now with all that money he jumped out of the plane with,, , we would just shake his hand and say," Damn. D.B. you sure had them fooled for a long time, Congratulations".

Well: We turned Patty Hearst loose after she helped rob a bank,so why punish this woman.?

Lots of good arguments pro and con to incarcerate this woman, just remember what happened to Cool Hand Luke and all he did was knock off a few parking meters.
 

willie

Well-Known Member
If she had served her term, she would have been out of prison for the last 20 years, free to live her life with no threat of the law one day catching up to her.

I tend to agree that drug use is a victimless crime, but she was a dealer. I don't have any sympathy for them. "Freedom and Liberty" don't include dealing horse, IMO.
Drug use is not a victimless crime. It affects everyone they steal from, the loved ones they deceive, the spouse and children that they abandon and in many cases dump onto the public for assistance. It creates violence from murder to suicide. Drug use is far,far from victimless.
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
Drug use is not a victimless crime. It affects everyone they steal from, the loved ones they deceive, the spouse and children that they abandon and in many cases dump onto the public for assistance. It creates violence from murder to suicide. Drug use is far,far from victimless.

Drug use in and of itself IS victimless. All those things you listed are typically associated with it because people cannot control themselves.

I see what you're saying but it is not the actual drug use that is the problem.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Drug...

Drug use is not a victimless crime. It affects everyone they steal from, the loved ones they deceive, the spouse and children that they abandon and in many cases dump onto the public for assistance. It creates violence from murder to suicide. Drug use is far,far from victimless.

...use is a victimless crime.

Stealing goes on absent drug use.

People abandon their responsibilities and lie and cheat absent drug use.

Suicide happens absent drugs.

And all of that sux for whomever it happens to.

Now, violent crime and the profound corruption that exists in our society, at every level, that is not a victimless crime; that is a crime against every single one of us regardless of drugs.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Atta...

Drug use in and of itself IS victimless. All those things you listed are typically associated with it because people cannot control themselves.

I see what you're saying but it is not the actual drug use that is the problem.

...boy! :buddies:
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
Anyone want to take bets on what the next based-on-a-true-story-made-for-tv-drama will be?
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
A busted hooker...

Anyone want to take bets on what the next based-on-a-true-story-made-for-tv-drama will be?

...who deals smack to congressmen has to escape from jail because they are trying to kill her inside jail marries Brad Pitt, lives happily ever after until he hangs himself when he finds out she has a past?
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
...who deals smack to congressmen has to escape from jail because they are trying to kill her inside jail marries Brad Pitt, lives happily ever after until he hangs himself when he finds out she has a past?
No, that's the one they'll write for the big screen....Kinda like "The Taking of Flight 847" - A TV movie staring Linda Wagner vs. "Delta Force" starring Chuck Norris. Both were based on the same story. :rolleyes:
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
Anyone remember the story of the 80-some year old man that got hauled off to jail because of his Nazi involvement in WWII? :confused: I don't remember the specifics...and it's probably not the first time that's happened, but I remember thinking it was weird that he went to jail when he was 80-some years old.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Well...

Anyone remember the story of the 80-some year old man that got hauled off to jail because of his Nazi involvement in WWII? :confused: I don't remember the specifics...and it's probably not the first time that's happened, but I remember thinking it was weird that he went to jail when he was 80-some years old.

...let's see;

19 year old drug dealer?

Concentration camp guard who, supposedly, abused and killed POW's.?

Who is worse?
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
...let's see;

19 year old drug dealer?

Concentration camp guard who, supposedly, abused and killed POW's.?

Who is worse?

Oh, I found it. Here's the story. Yes, what he did was not comparable to drug dealing, but I still thought it odd that they'd send an 86 yr old man to jail. Crap, he's practically dead anyways.
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
If she had served her term, she would have been out of prison for the last 20 years, free to live her life with no threat of the law one day catching up to her.

I tend to agree that drug use is a victimless crime, but she was a dealer. I don't have any sympathy for them. "Freedom and Liberty" don't include dealing horse, IMO.

When I was a clerk at a police department, we'd classify drug reports as victimless.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
But...

Oh, I found it. Here's the story. Yes, what he did was not comparable to drug dealing, but I still thought it odd that they'd send an 86 yr old man to jail. Crap, he's practically dead anyways.

...again, there is a rather size-able difference between a participating member of a genocidal program and selling drugs to willing buyers.

If we find a 90 year old Hitler in the jungles of Argentina, we still kill him. There was some black guy who killed a white person when he was 17 and ran and was found in NYC after some 50 years of model citizenry. We let him go.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
I didn't see anywhere in the article that she was dealing heroin.:shrug:

That article conveniently left out just what she was charged with. It almost sounds like she was just a junkie who got caught, doesn't it?

She was charged with dealing, and she pled guilty. Then she escaped from prison. She did the crime, she received a harsh sentence, but not the maximum. She couldn't handle the harsh conditions so she escaped. Sorry, but I have no sympathy.

The thought that she could just be allowed to go back to her housewife life doesn't work. She betrayed her husband by witholding the truth. Maybe he could forgive that, but I couldn't. All of her neighbors and friends now know that she's an escaped felon drug dealer. Her idyllic life is over.
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
...again, there is a rather size-able difference between a participating member of a genocidal program and selling drugs to willing buyers.

If we find a 90 year old Hitler in the jungles of Argentina, we still kill him. There was some black guy who killed a white person when he was 17 and ran and was found in NYC after some 50 years of model citizenry. We let him go.

Either way they both broke the law. It's not like they didn't know what they were doing was wrong. Do the crime, pay the time. :yay:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
That...

. All of her neighbors and friends now know that she's an escaped felon drug dealer. Her idyllic life is over.

...means we all need to meet in the town square and everyone come clean and confess every wrong and bad thing they ever did, caught or otherwise lest we be living among people who cheated on their spouse or shop lifted or gave their pals too much change when they worked at the McDonald's 20 years ago.

I have no sympathy for these criminals who hide amongst us.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
...means we all need to meet in the town square and everyone come clean and confess every wrong and bad thing they ever did, caught or otherwise lest we be living among people who cheated on their spouse or shop lifted or gave their pals too much change when they worked at the McDonald's 20 years ago.

I have no sympathy for these criminals who hide amongst us.

:shrug: Confession is good for the "soul." I've confessed all of my crimes and wrongs.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Did it...

:shrug: Confession is good for the "soul." I've confessed all of my crimes and wrongs.

...end your idyllic life?

And go ahead and list your sins so we can decide if it's OK whatever punishment you did or did not receive.

:elaine:
 
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