itsbob
I bowl overhand
Only problem being, I'm far right of being a Democrat.
Womans SSN used by illegal immigrant. must read!
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Only problem being, I'm far right of being a Democrat.
Sure, any American would like it that way.
You are missing the point....whether he knew or didn't know, is immaterial.she is the one that has to pay the consequences, mentally , Physically and financially.
I don't think you would be so cavalier if it was you or yours.
Perhaps It would be more acceptable if I said we should go after the ones who provided him with the document(s), but get real, you know that won't happen.
As to hating illegals, you don't know me...I don't know you. So this liberal baiting is useless...my folks came here legally, paid their dues and raised a family, legally. Does this mean we didn't buy into the American dream ?
chernmax
NOT Politically Correct!!
I understand the circumstances she had to go through to get her life back and I have great empathy for any victim of a crime. That is why I am in the work that I am in, to help people. However, the first thread said law enforcement failed her. Now, as I see it, law enforcement arrested the guy who did this, but you are not willing to acknowledge that a complex and difficult investigation was successful!
What point did I prove? That you don't read things well or aren't willing to see the totality of the event?
cwo_ghwebb
No Use for Donk Twits
Seems apparent to me that there isn't an agency who wanted to take responsibility. The lady was concerned about his name being on her 401k plan. If she had died, wouldn't that have created a mess regarding her estate? The way I see it, she hounded law enforcement who then (finally) took the bull by the horns and resolved the problem. It's probably not their responsibility but they stepped up and got the job done.
I think the bold contradicts what I intially read. That law enforcement failed this woman. If that were the case, the guy wouldn't be locked up. Did law enforcement do a perfect job on this? I don't know. But the result clearly indicates it was not a "FAILURE" on law enforcement's behalf. That is all I am saying.
What your not comprehending is that the "complex and difficult investigation" was performed by her and she had to practically drag them out of the donut shop to get them to do anything.
Exactly my point...she was let down by all the agencies that should have helped her, but it seems would go all out to defend the "poor" but hardworking illegal instead.
I don't give a hoot if he was decent or all these good things....she has precedence..it was her SSN, her life, her well being in danger, not his.
If this is your rant to perform a personal attack, then so be it. All I suggested bud, knowing other police officers, that they would move heaven and earth if something similar happened to someone near and dear to them. That is a natural reaction, because blood is thicker than water. Your reaction to her difficulty was that LE did arrest the guy, but only after the hell she had to go through to get any kind of movement. As for her lawyer, I am sure the chump would have worked even quicker if he smelled more green in the air.
Are you still missing the point or are you just as guilty of that which you accuse me of ?
I don't give a hoot if he was decent or all these good things....she has precedence..it was her SSN, her life, her well being in danger, not his.
If this is your rant to perform a personal attack, then so be it. All I suggested bud, knowing other police officers, that they would move heaven and earth if something similar happened to someone near and dear to them. That is a natural reaction, because blood is thicker than water. Your reaction to her difficulty was that LE did arrest the guy, but only after the hell she had to go through to get any kind of movement. As for her lawyer, I am sure the chump would have worked even quicker if he smelled more green in the air.
Are you still missing the point or are you just as guilty of that which you accuse me of ?
It doesn't say anything like that in the article. It says she reported it to a jurisdiction who didn't do anything and she persisted and reported it again, and a detective took and interest and conducted the investigation and made an arrest. You can interpret it to be something more, and you silly little mind can make jokes about a donut shop, but I will gladly go for a run with you and the first one who stops pays the other a weeks salary? Let me know when you're ready.
The police officer arrested the guy!!!!!!!!!!! What more do you want? One cop tells the lady He can't do anything so she finds another who can! Why can you not just give credit to the cop who did! Why do you make this a negative indictment on all police officers?
You don't know me or what I do. I spend countless number of hours away from my family on holidays, during soccer and baseball games because although blood is thicker than water, I took an oath to serve the community who employees me and I do that willingly and selflessly! So before you badmouth police officers, and offer no credit to the police officers who did their job, step up and tell me what you have done!
I
In your rage , pray tell where do I badmouth ALL the police? Again, you fail to see the point that she had to prod everyone that should have gone the distance for her to do what EVERYBODY should have done in the first place, NOT JUST THE POLICE. I am happy that she was finally helped, but as a citizen, there should have been no hesitation to assist her. Instead, it seemed to me, everyone was afraid to offend the friggin illegal.
YES they arrested the guy, good for them. What if something had happened to her prior to this ? Would you say too bad? Unfortunate? Thank the man upstairs nothing happened, but its a d**n shame when this sort of thing happens.
First off, there is no rage with me. Why is it that you feel that if I don't agree with you, I am enraged?
When you agreed with the original post which said law enforcement failed this woman, that is when you implied that law enforcement did not help. If something happened prior to the guy being arrested or whenever the "prior to this" is, I would have done my duty if this were in my jurisdiction. If it were outside of my jurisdiction I would have referred her to the proper place to go! If someone did not help her there, and she had to go elsewhere, then it wouldn't be law enforcement which did not help, it would have been the guy who she went to that did not help. Some in law enforcement tried, but it was outside of their area in which they could.
What type of work do you do?
Because if I don't agree with you, you seem to take it as a personal attack on you,
As I said in my initial post, she was failed by a whole slue of people who vied with one another in ignoring her, Because she was persistant or as some others may imply, being a b***ch, she finally got some action that resulted in having the illegal arrested. That she was able to get satisfaction does not belie the fact that she had to go through heaven and high water to protect one of the things that you, me and other folks value very highly and guard jealously...our personal identities and freedoms. That she was failed by some who should have known better is a crime in itself, because they failed to protect a citizen of this country . This has been the case with too many civil servants whom don't want to be bothered to do their jobs, It is also a symptom of others in society who have become to thick skinned and tinned ear when their fellow citizens ask for help.
Fortunately it seems you are not one of these ignorers. If I implied that you were, then I personally offer my apologies. There is no excuse on my part to tarnish those who would indeed come quickly and effectively AND did to protect this citizen. My ahger is towards those who did not. as I said, including her own lawyer.
And yes I can relateto her problems because I had something similar happen to mwife and myself. Not here but in another county in this state.
A number of Cubans had moved into the house below us on a Wednesday, they had a moving in party that started in the afternoon which I had no problem with or that it lasted into early evening. However, when it went beyond midnight and into the early morning hours, then there was a serious contention as these people had their stereos turned on full blast. I called the local police to complain, I was initially told it wasn't their problem and that they had better things to do with their time, Only when my neighbor also complained did they finally send a car but to our chagrin, the officer demanded to know what we were bothering them for, that no harm was being done, When we persisted ( after all, we merely had to go to work that morning ) He left without doing a thing. We , like the lady, kept calling the precinct until we finally reached someone who assured us that someone would go out there to police the situation and that he would do it w/out revealing our identities/ Well, needless to say, party continued, I got no rest, but the worse was yet to come.
My neighbor had his van holed , I got my sideview mirrors and windshield smashed and my locked bike stolen off the back of my car. It subsequently appeared in plain view in the Cubans' back yard as an offhand warning. My wife, who is handicapped, couldn't enjoy the backyard, as these reprobates. who had no visible means of support, kept badgering her. We also had to be on guard for our little dogs for poisoned meat thrown into our yard. It was a good part of the reason that we sold off the house and moved down here. Needless to say more.
As I said in my initial post, she was failed by a whole slue of people who vied with one another in ignoring her, Because she was persistant or as some others may imply, being a b***ch, she finally got some action that resulted in having the illegal arrested. That she was able to get satisfaction does not belie the fact that she had to go through heaven and high water to protect one of the things that you, me and other folks value very highly and guard jealously...our personal identities and freedoms. That she was failed by some who should have known better is a crime in itself, because they failed to protect a citizen of this country . This has been the case with too many civil servants whom don't want to be bothered to do their jobs, It is also a symptom of others in society who have become to thick skinned and tinned ear when their fellow citizens ask for help.
Fortunately it seems you are not one of these ignorers. If I implied that you were, then I personally offer my apologies. There is no excuse on my part to tarnish those who would indeed come quickly and effectively AND did to protect this citizen. My ahger is towards those who did not. as I said, including her own lawyer.
And yes I can relateto her problems because I had something similar happen to mwife and myself. Not here but in another county in this state.
A number of Cubans had moved into the house below us on a Wednesday, they had a moving in party that started in the afternoon which I had no problem with or that it lasted into early evening. However, when it went beyond midnight and into the early morning hours, then there was a serious contention as these people had their stereos turned on full blast. I called the local police to complain, I was initially told it wasn't their problem and that they had better things to do with their time, Only when my neighbor also complained did they finally send a car but to our chagrin, the officer demanded to know what we were bothering them for, that no harm was being done, When we persisted ( after all, we merely had to go to work that morning ) He left without doing a thing. We , like the lady, kept calling the precinct until we finally reached someone who assured us that someone would go out there to police the situation and that he would do it w/out revealing our identities/ Well, needless to say, party continued, I got no rest, but the worse was yet to come.
My neighbor had his van holed , I got my sideview mirrors and windshield smashed and my locked bike stolen off the back of my car. It subsequently appeared in plain view in the Cubans' back yard as an offhand warning. My wife, who is handicapped, couldn't enjoy the backyard, as these reprobates. who had no visible means of support, kept badgering her. We also had to be on guard for our little dogs for poisoned meat thrown into our yard. It was a good part of the reason that we sold off the house and moved down here. Needless to say more.
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RadioPatrol
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Yes .... we help them improve their own country, if they are willing, and they must not be .... look @ the state of things in Mexican't ....
how do you figuring flooding the US Job Market with 10's of millions of non English speaking people is going to help America ....
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This_person
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When they intentionally violate our laws, the individual is an enemy. The countries are not (mostly, except when they're teaching their people HOW to violate our laws), but the individuals are.
And, like most intelligent people, he assumed he'd get those from the US Office of Street Corner Administration? Come on, Bob!
No, the beacon calls people to immigrate, legally.
Well, I agree, it would be exploding. I don't think we're imagining the same result though
That's a good idea - we don't need no stinking borders!
Are you serious? What defines a country more than secure borders?
I hope for us all that it never happens to any of us. Perhaps we could start by not giving away our country to those who choose to steal it instead of earn it.
Why did she have to convince her local PD to take a report?
Why did she have to pester a dispatcher to pass the report on?
Why did a detective have to take an interest in the case? His boss should have said this ones yours, just as if it were a B&E or shooting.
That is her interpretation. The likely scenario is the detective may have been investigating a shooting or a murder, but the property crime goes to the bottom of the list so the violent crimes can be solved first. The reason is most police agencies are under staffed.
I answered your questions to the best of my ability. Answer this. Why are the police not given credit for solving this complex crime? How is it a failure, if law enforcement solved the case?
I don't take it personally, and I get just as angry as you when someone in my ranks don't do their job. I take great pride in what I do and defend my peers when I see someone not giving credit where credit is due.
In this society, we can argue, disagree, and have differences of opinion. Because I don't share your opinion and feel the need to offer mine, doesn't mean I take it as a personal attack. Just because our opinons differ, doesn't mean I share any anomosity towards you.
Then peace and good life to you.