Wood Stove Insert - help???

[dems4me]

"Dems and her threads"

 

[willie]

the house is old, they have been using it for hundreds of years, there is NO design flaw or the house would never have been inhabited. No heat = no inhabitants :shrug:

You really don't understand, do you?

 

[dems4me]

You really don't understand, do you?

yes, I do, but folks don't seem to read my posts, a professional came out and said for the make and design it just needs an insert.

 

[willie]

yes, I do, but folks don't seem to read my posts, a professional came out and said for the make and design it just needs an insert.

Who was the professional, somdcrab?

 

[dems4me]

Who was the professional, somdcrab?

I don't know I wasn't the one that owns the house, had it inspected nor am I the one that wants the insert. I was just trying to help a friend.

 

[kwillia]

I don't know I wasn't the one that owns the house, had it inspected nor am I the one that wants the insert. I was just trying to help a friend.

Dems, please let your friend know that the professionals from Great Mills Road will tell her anything she wants to hear as long as the money is right, she may of been snowed...

 

[dems4me]

Dems, please let your friend know that the professionals from Great Mills Road will tell her anything she wants to hear as long as the money is right, she may of been snowed...

thanks... don't know who it was... I was just trying to find an insert for a friend... and I even got red squares for this thread... it just reminds me why I never asked folks on here to begin with and why this was the last option

 

[Agee]

From the link KK supplied...

If you have a choice, the best possible venting method for a woodstove is insulated stainless steel chimney. If you are venting into a masonry chimney, install a stainless steel liner and provide dead-air or ceramic blanket insulation.

My insert vents directly into a masonary chimmey, and I will eventually have the liner installed to overcome having to "warm the Chimmey" to create a decent draft. I light several pieces of wadded-up newspaper, until I see the draft has been established.

Actually Dems I am in the market for a new insert so mine might be up for sale in the near future

 

[dems4me]

From the link KK supplied...

My insert vents directly into a masonary chimmey, and I will eventually have the liner installed to overcome having to "warm the Chimmey" to create a decent draft. I light several pieces of wadded-up newspaper, until I see the draft has been established.

Actually Dems I am in the market for a new insert so mine might be up for sale in the near future

Thanks!

 

[crabcake]

Dems, I'm assuming you are talking about that "historic" house in Hughesville. If the chimney is as old as the house, it may be in need of repair, and it could be dangerous to try to use it if it's not working properly...

Is this the little white house that sat up on that hill on the northbound side of Rt. 5?

 

[dems4me]

Is this the little white house that sat up on that hill on the northbound side of Rt. 5?

No, that's in the historic registry and will be a pain in the azz for whoever buys the house... that's why I think it sat there on sale for ever :shrug:

 

[kom526]

No, that's in the historic registry and will be a pain in the azz for whoever buys the house... that's why I think it sat there on sale for ever :shrug:

I think the location had more to do with that house being on the market so long. That fluorescent light on the front porch needs to go back to Wal-mart, it detracts from the overall appeal.

Back on topic now. If your friend decides to get a PELLET stove, there is a new state law that requires the chimney to have a new stainless liner installed also. I do not think this applies to wood inserts, but you may want to ask.The sales guy I was talking to at Tri County Hearth told me about this law. Good luck trying to find an insert this time of year.

 

[OldHillcrestGuy]

No, that's in the historic registry and will be a pain in the azz for whoever buys the house... that's why I think it sat there on sale for ever :shrug:

You know the bypass had to go around that house because it was on the historic registry, something to do with the wood trim or design, looks like it would have been easier to go through it. Tough little house took direct hit from the tornado and only cosmetic damage.

 

[willie]

Back on topic now. If your friend decides to get a PELLET stove, there is a new state law that requires the chimney to have a new stainless liner installed also. I do not think this applies to wood inserts, but you may want to ask.The sales guy I was talking to at Tri County Hearth told me about this law. Good luck trying to find an insert this time of year.

I'm not much on additional laws but a lot of people do underestimate creosote buildup. A previous poster mentioned stainless steel insulated chimney and that is the best way to go if you have an airtight stove or insert. Creosote will find any crack in the masonry flue and will eventually permeate the mortar joints. A flue fire is something no one wants any part of. A heat wasting regular fireplace doesn't have this problem.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I'm not much on additional laws but a lot of people do underestimate creosote buildup. A previous poster mentioned stainless steel insulated chimney and that is the best way to go if you have an airtight stove or insert. Creosote will find any crack in the masonry flue and will eventually permeate the mortar joints. A flue fire is something no one wants any part of. A heat wasting regular fireplace doesn't have this problem.

The reason every chimney should be treated with "Soot Skoot" or something similar every year. It makes the creosote burn off in a controlled manner.

 

[kom526]

I'm not much on additional laws but a lot of people do underestimate creosote buildup. A previous poster mentioned stainless steel insulated chimney and that is the best way to go if you have an airtight stove or insert. Creosote will find any crack in the masonry flue and will eventually permeate the mortar joints. A flue fire is something no one wants any part of. A heat wasting regular fireplace doesn't have this problem.

Do pellet stoves create large amounts of creosote? I'm putting a pellet stove in the new house and any info I can glean won't hurt. This law applies to new construction AND retro fits. probably a pain in the posterior to retro fit an existing chimney.

 

[willie]

Do pellet stoves create large amounts of creosote? I'm putting a pellet stove in the new house and any info I can glean won't hurt. This law applies to new construction AND retro fits. probably a pain in the posterior to retro fit an existing chimney.

My neighbor has one and he says "no". The guvmint agrees: http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumer/your_home/space_heating_cooling/index.cfm/mytopic=12570