mamatutu
mama to two
You're right. Debating is not the same as bitching. He was bitching in his first opinion post on the subject. Debating started after other posters disagreed with his opinion(s).
Two different posts; two different stances. I can see what happens when one does not read an entire thread, before posting. Things go awry, and there is a lot of scrambling. This is why threads jump the shark, and members are saying 'what just happened?' Which is it? Someone is bitching, or debating? It can't be both ways. Or can it? Hmmmm.....