New poll: 58% favor marijuana legalization
- Thread starter Chris0nllyn
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I'm talking about from 1933 until now. Were there no taxes on booze in 1933? I know there are pretty stiff taxes on booze now. If I remember correctly, prohibition was pretty lucrative for many the bad guy, but they didn't keep their networks running after government legalized and taxed the industry.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
They didn't keep doing illegal booze because there was no longer remotely enough money in it to bother with once prohibition was repealed.
Did you read the link in post #6?
That does a good job of explaining it.
bcp
In My Opinion
Taxed on the cost of my plan and not be affected by obamacare?
Hell yes.
oh, and while we are at it, how about the stop taxing me to pay for welfare too.
edinsomd
New Member
bcp
In My Opinion
If its all the same, I can still to this day take you to a few operating stills in Virginia, and one in Carolina.
so, although it greatly reduced it, it did not stop it.
Same will be with marijuana, once the government starts to regulate it, it will have to comply with certain levels of quality and strength, if you want the good stuff, you will still most likely be able to find some stoner growing killer weed in the back yard.
It would not completely get rid of the underground market.
I was in Amsterdam this spring where you can smoke, eat or drink your pot. Went down to the red-light district on a nice Friday afternoon and it was quite a party with the girls in the widows beckoning their customers. The police were there and it was all quite civilized. It can work and the taxes can be made revenue neutral. I’m with the libertarians on this one and while you’re legalizing pot; give a working girl a chance.
bcp
In My Opinion
Would be nice to be able to get a cheap BJ without having to worry about your name showing up in the local papers.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Good. That's a start. Most people freak out about the idea of having to pay for their health care insurance and can't make the association that they are getting a tax break and therefore are in the same boat as someone seeking 'free' health care. It's not the same, of course. However, it is a form of government subsidy and very much the same in that regard.
What needed to happen 10 years ago was the elimination of the tax break to ward off where we are today.
bcp
In My Opinion
how would the elimination of tax breaks have stopped this? they would still be trying to get the leaches free insurance at the cost of the working class
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Progressive-ism 101; get a little bit, all the time. Always be 'progressing'.
The underlying premise of modern liberalism, leftists, socialists, progressives, is that YOU are getting ripped off and are owed. That they are there to make life fair for YOU.
It is easy to show how Wall Street is ripping YOU off, because it so blatantly did and is. Never mind why. It just did and is.
Bottom line is that TARP was wrong, way, way wrong IF you are a small government, personal responsibility type. If we bail out the rich, it is impossible to argue against 'helping' anyone and everyone. Goose, gander. Simply to understand.
It is easy to show how YOU are being treated unfairly in terms of health care because THEY get all these nice perqs and YOU get none. Never mind why. It just is.
Health insurance, same thing. If YOU were buying your own health care from the get go, just getting paid your money and then go take care of your business as you see fit, health care would cost WAY less, better service and much less argument to give it to others.
Most people defend it as this or that agreement with their employer. Well, that changes nothing in the fact that it is STILL subsidized by everyone else
via the tax code and it makes things exponentially worse in terms of any sort of market discipline for cost and service when someone else is paying it for you.
The 1986 Emergency Health Care thing Reagan signed into law was a typical government response to the problem; some people have this or that (government subsidized health care) so, instead of taking that away, the proper limited government approach, we give more away.
It's just gotten worse from there.
MD :shrug: what doubled the TAX on Booze some yrs ago
a 1/2 gal of Capt Morgan went from $ 13.99 to $ 25 dollars these days
what the #### is Wrong with this country, a home owner and parent cannot have the police sweep a teenagers room for drugs, if yo suspect you child is involved or using
Ya they did not go into detail as to the legalities behind it.
I just assumed it was some constitutional rights violation kinda thing.
It also 'may' have been because this was an open case because of what had transpired at the school earlier and it would have taken a court order to search his room and they did not want to risk fouling up their case.
Either way I disagree with their logic. A homeowner should be able to request this no matter who lives in the home.
I have seen articles where Private companies have started up and will sweep their dog through your place so apparently there is a workaround.
I'd like to think that after all this time I would have found anything they may have left but there is still that possibility. I will have to make a phone call and see, just for piece of mind.
Kevinthedog
New Member
My first post here ever says laws making criminals out if people who smoke weed are archaic stupid self defeating and a sad reminder of our Puritan past. Notice how government types love taxing vices?
Most people aren't so much advocating taxing it as much as trying to come up with compelling reasons for others to want to legalize it also. There are a lot of people who want it legalized just because there isn't a good reason for it to not be, protecting people from their own nature is not a good reason and foolhardy.
Kevinthedog
New Member
It is the kind of stuff that makes me worry about our country.
stupid rules and stupid laws that never end. Like our stupid war on terror. It's like we've stopped thinking. Our founding fathers would be disappointed.
bcp
In My Opinion
and then there are people like me that have no problem with it being legal as soon as they figure out how to enforce its use.
they cant even get it right with beer, and that can be tested for on the spot, how are they going to handle smoking something that can stay in your system for days after.
Plus, where should the line be drawn, pot? crack? cocaine? heroin? or should there be no line and all of it legal.
for me at least, there are just too many questions that need to be answered before I would vote yes on it.