6 year olds carrying anti-abortion signs

crabcake

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Makavide said:
So, at what age is okay to teach about abortion?

And if I want to protest what I find offensive, without the possiblity of injuring whomever, where do I go?
There is no magical age. Some children may be capable of comprehending it at 10; others may be older. You can't just flash some pictures of aborted fetuses at a child and say "Ewwwww, lookie! That's bad ... bad, bad, bad! :nono:" and really expect them to understand. There's a lot more to understanding human behavior, decision-making, etc. than just throwing up flash-cards.

Why do you feel a need to protest anything? Again, it's not YOUR decision to make for someone else -- the decision to abort, the decision to educate children, the decision to not educate children. If it's not your body or your child, and no laws are being broken, what makes YOU right? :shrug:

And note, having the right to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right thing to do. :yay:
 

crabcake

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getthefacts said:
You are correct. But Jesus tells us to love our enemies. He's the final word.
Quit dodging the question. If the bible says "an eye for an eye", and a person murders, then, according to "the good book", the murderer should receive the same fate. If you're gonna preach the book and its beliefs, you can't pick and choose which ones you wanna believe in. :nono:
 

Makavide

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crabcake said:
Why do you feel a need to protest anything? Again, it's not YOUR decision to make for someone else -- the decision to abort, the decision to educate children, the decision to not educate children. If it's not your body or your child, and no laws are being broken, what makes YOU right? :shrug:

And note, having the right to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right thing to do. :yay:

And I feel the law should be changed. Just becuase it is legal now, does not mean it will always be legal. Just like 50 years ago segragation was legal, and 50 years before that women could not vote. But through protest, education and such the laws were changed. So, now you have the right to vote for the candidate who sees things your way, because others protested on your behalf.
 

mAlice

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Makavide said:
So, unless you are there 100% of the time, you can not be sure of what she will learn today.


I can bet it won't be about abortion. No...wait. I take that back. There's always the possibility that she's sitting next to a 6 year old, like yours, that has been told all about abortion.

Thanks a lot.
 

Makavide

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crabcake said:
Quit dodging the question. If the bible says "an eye for an eye", and a person murders, then, according to "the good book", the murderer should receive the same fate. If you're gonna preach the book and its beliefs, you can't pick and choose which ones you wanna believe in. :nono:

Why not, the Catholics are doing that in the other thread "Catholics Church no longer swear by the Bible.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Makavide said:
Why not, the Catholics are doing that in the other thread "Catholics Church no longer swear by the Bible.


This isn't the other thread, is it? Just admit it. You can't answer the question.
 

crabcake

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Makavide said:
And I feel the law should be changed. Just becuase it is legal now, does not mean it will always be legal. Just like 50 years ago segragation was legal, and 50 years before that women could not vote. But through protest, education and such the laws were changed. So, now you have the right to vote for the candidate who sees things your way, because others protested on your behalf.
So run for office so you can make your laws. :shrug: Or write your congressman/senator. :shrug: But in the mean time ... you gotta play by the same rules as everyone else.

Makavide said:
So, unless you are there 100% of the time, you can not be sure of what she will learn today.
I'm relatively confident that her 2nd grade class will not be discussing abortion or the related pros/cons anytime soon. If I wanted her force-fed that mess, I'd send her to Catholic school. :duh: But I have had "the talk" with her because she has asked questions, and when she comes home and asks about abortion b/c she overheard it somewhere (or if I decide she's at an age appropriate to discuss it with her), I'll explain it to her in a manner as I see fit/appropriate for her age that doesn't include pictures of aborted fetuses ... because that's MY job as her parent.
 

Makavide

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crabcake said:
I'll explain it to her in a manner as I see fit/appropriate for her age that doesn't include pictures of aborted fetuses ... because that's MY job as her parent.

Very good, I do agree - it is your right as a parent to discuss the issue as you see fit, at the level you believe your children can comprehend. And I would never presume to talk to some one else's child about abortion (with out permission). And if you drove by, you would not have seen us discussing it with others children. We were just standing in protest agains something we feel is wrong.
 

getthefacts

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crabcake said:
Quit dodging the question. If the bible says "an eye for an eye", and a person murders, then, according to "the good book", the murderer should receive the same fate. If you're gonna preach the book and its beliefs, you can't pick and choose which ones you wanna believe in. :nono:

Do you know anything about Divine Revelation?

God reveled himself to humanity in the two parts of the Bible: the Old and New Testaments.

God gradually made himself known to men, to the point of becoming man himself, in order to draw to himself the whole world and unite it with himself through his Incarnate Son, Jesus Christ.

God’s definitive Word to mankind was Jesus Christ (in the New Testament).

Get the facts yourself and you'll find that that's what the largest Christian denomination on earth believes.
 

crabcake

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getthefacts said:
Do you know anything about Divine Revelation?

God reveled himself to humanity in the two parts of the Bible: the Old and New Testaments.

God gradually made himself known to men, to the point of becoming man himself, in order to draw to himself the whole world and unite it with himself through his Incarnate Son, Jesus Christ.

God’s definitive Word to mankind was Jesus Christ (in the New Testament).

Get the facts yourself and you'll find that that's what the largest Christian denomination on earth believes.
I'm not gonna sit here and debate religion; been there, done that. And there's really no debate necessary. It's a simple question that you insist dodging. :shrug:

You can believe whatever you want; that's your right. But when you subject my kid to it by holding up signs on the side of the road, you're inflicting your beliefs on my child, and that's not your right. :nono:
 

crabcake

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Makavide said:
Very good, I do agree - it is your right as a parent to discuss the issue as you see fit, at the level you believe your children can comprehend. And I would never presume to talk to some one else's child about abortion (with out permission). And if you drove by, you would not have seen us discussing it with others children. We were just standing in protest agains something we feel is wrong.
What exactly did the signs say that ya'll held up ... ver batim. :shrug:
 

kingpl2

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crabcake said:
You didn't answer my question. Who are you to judge? Your book tells you not to do that, correct?
Incorrect. If by "your book" you are referring to the Bible - which by the way I did not write I just read and try to heed. Jesus taught us to judge actions justly. John chapter 7 verse 24. If you don't have a Bible you can use one online. We are however taught not to condemn and I am not condemning anyone. What do you think I am condeming you for?

There are actions that do harm to others which are wrong no matter who does them. It is object not subjective.
You are free to stand in front of my home and denounce christianity. I would gladly talk with you.
 

Makavide

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crabcake said:
What exactly did the signs say that ya'll held up ... ver batim. :shrug:

one sign had "Stop abortion now!"
another one was "Abortion Kills"

Those are the two I remember, I will try to find out what the others had - there were maybe 5 different sign types.
 

kingpl2

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crabcake said:
What exactly did the signs say that ya'll held up ... ver batim. :shrug:
I cannot tell you the content of any home-made signs and there were at least two. The other signs read:
1. STOP ABORTION NOW
2. ABORTION KILLS CHILDREN
3. YOU CAN'T BE CATHOLIC AND PRO-ABORTION.
4. WOMEN DESERVE BETTER
5. JESUS FORGIVES AND HEALS
6. THE NATURAL CHOICE IS LIFE
7. DEFEND LIFE
8. ABORTION IS HOMICIDE / ROCK FOR LIFE
9. ABORTION STOPS A BEATING HEART

THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A FEW THAT READ
ABORTION: ONE DEAD ONE WOUNDED
 
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