Abortion Issues

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Oh and by the way - this is exactly the gist of my reaction to this year's election. The Ohio vote was the ONLY case where the left could celebrate - virtually all of the other "wins" were trivial and not unexpected for ANY election year. But when a reliably RED STATE goes this strongly to protect abortion, it's time for better handling of the issue.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Joe Biden Wants to Force Every Hospital to Kill Babies in Abortions




EMTALA is a federal law that requires public hospitals to stabilize and care for any patient who needs emergency treatment, regardless of a patient’s ability to pay. Pro-Life President Ronald Reagan championed and signed EMTALA into law in 1986 so that vulnerable patients, including pregnant mothers in labor, would receive essential care for themselves and their preborn children.

But after the Pro-Life Dobbs v. Jackson Supreme Court ruling, the Biden Administration released new health care guidance on EMTALA stipulating that emergency rooms must offer abortions for a broad range of healthcare reasons, seeking to subvert Pro-Life states’ strong life-saving laws.

The Texas Attorney General’s Office sued the Biden Administration to block this guidance from affecting Texas’ laws and hospitals. A previous injunction by United States federal Judge James Hendrix temporarily halted the policy’s enforcement. However, the Biden Administration persisted in its appeal.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Top OBGYN Confirms Abortion Pill is Dangerous: They’re Lying to Women



The abortion pill ends one life and damages another, Rep. Bob Good, R-Va., said Monday during a panel on chemical abortion held by The Heritage Foundation, referring to the death of the baby and its effects on the mother’s mental health.

“We need to stand up [as] unashamedly, unapologetically pro-life,” Good said of the chemical abortion pill mifepristone, adding: “Government’s No. 1 responsibility is to protect the safety and security of its citizens, including unborn life in the womb.”

“Mifepristone destroys one life and tends to ruin another life as well,” the Virginia Republican said during Heritage’s event, “Abortion Pills: What’s Next?
 

herb749

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Top OBGYN Confirms Abortion Pill is Dangerous: They’re Lying to Women



The abortion pill ends one life and damages another, Rep. Bob Good, R-Va., said Monday during a panel on chemical abortion held by The Heritage Foundation, referring to the death of the baby and its effects on the mother’s mental health.

“We need to stand up [as] unashamedly, unapologetically pro-life,” Good said of the chemical abortion pill mifepristone, adding: “Government’s No. 1 responsibility is to protect the safety and security of its citizens, including unborn life in the womb.”

“Mifepristone destroys one life and tends to ruin another life as well,” the Virginia Republican said during Heritage’s event, “Abortion Pills: What’s Next?


Doesn't an abortion also effect a woman's mental health. Is the argument over a woman's right to choose more over saying you can't, but not about how many really do. It seems its more about I want to be able but likely never will.
 

Hijinx

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The only women who have a mental health problem are those persons IMO who abort because thy have no other alternative. Those who do it for Birth Control and have multiple abortions aren't bothered in the least about it. IMO they already have mental problems.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Doesn't an abortion also effect a woman's mental health.


In the past 35 yrs I have known 2 women who had abortions [ none of my kids ]

Both were devastated after the fact ... both ran off to have abortions when they found out they were pregnant by less than ideal men. without really thinking decision through - just a snap decision

one had issues a few yrs later trying to conceive, the other was bawling her eyes out on the 1 yr anniversary of the abortion, deeply regretting making such a hasty decision
 

black dog

Free America
The only women who have a mental health problem are those persons IMO who abort because thy have no other alternative. Those who do it for Birth Control and have multiple abortions aren't bothered in the least about it. IMO they already have mental problems.
Hey be careful what you say, 4 in every 10 women have had an abortion. How many women in your extended family again?
 

black dog

Free America
In the past 35 yrs I have known 2 women who had abortions [ none of my kids ]

Both were devastated after the fact ... both ran off to have abortions when they found out they were pregnant by less than ideal men. without really thinking decision through - just a snap decision

one had issues a few yrs later trying to conceive, the other was bawling her eyes out on the 1 yr anniversary of the abortion, deeply regretting making such a hasty decision
I'm just the other way, I have never met any women that felt guilty with a personal health decision they have made in their life.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Republicans Introduce Bills to Stop Joe Biden From Funding Abortions



Despite this, the bill notes that in August 2022, the Biden administration’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) sent a letter “inviting States to use Medicaid funding under the demonstration authority under section 1115 of the Social Security Act to expand access to elective abortions.”

Brecheen’s legislation claims that contrary to the text of the HHS letter, “The Hyde Amendment applies to all Medicaid funds and cannot be superseded by a waiver under section 1115 of the Social Security Act.”

The Daily Signal’s Mary Margaret Olohan reported that the “No Abortion Coverage for Medicaid Act” would amend section 1115 “to clarify that [DHS] can’t approve applications or extensions for Medicaid projects that provide funding for abortion or benefits that include abortion, such as travel expenses incurred while obtaining an abortion.”

The second bill proposed by Breechen, titled the “No Taxpayer Abortions for Unaccompanied Minors Act,” would “prohibit the Secretary of [HHS] from issuing, finalizing, implementing, or enforcing any rule or guidance to facilitate abortions or access to abortions for an unaccompanied alien child.”
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Feds Sent Nearly $2 Billion To Planned Parenthood And Other Pro-Abortion Groups, Gov’t Report Finds



The report exhibits the limits of executive action when it comes to separating the abortion industry from federal dollars. The Trump administration attempted to end federal funding of pro-abortion organizations in 2017 by establishing the Protect Life Rule, which mandated that all organizations receiving funding through Title X grants intended to assist family planning services must agree to refrain from offering referrals for abortions, and must also maintain both physical and financial separation from abortion providers.

Planned Parenthood refused to comply with the new rule and forfeited the Title X funding, which was the abortion group’s second largest source of federal funding behind Medicaid reimbursements. The GAO report found that Planned Parenthood’s refusal “led almost all affiliates to discontinue using family planning grants under Title X” in both 2020 and 2021. The Biden administration, however, rescinded the Trump administration’s Protect Life Rule in 2021.

In addition to the federal dollars that went to Planned Parenthood, another $2.03 million went to the International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF). The international organization operates in 146 different countries and works alongside 150 member associations. The IPPF brags that in 2022 alone, it provided 5 million “abortion services,” an increase of 11% since 2021. The figure includes 14,000 chemical abortions that were facilitated by the federation.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

OOPS! Karine Jean-Pierre TRIES Defending Abortion in Thread, Accidentally Makes Very Pro-Life Argument



We will say, it's pretty obvious that she's often if not always the one writing tweets for President Piddle Pants. Same voice and the same nonsense. Then again, Democrats all have the same talking points so we suppose an intern who thinks he/she/they/it (whatever) are changing the world with every single tweet could be writing some of them as well.

Anyway, we digress.

Check out this thread from KJP:






Sending abortion back to the States is chaotic and cruel.

Huh.

Seems like common sense to us.

Oh, and we'll say this more than once but abortion is not nor has it ever been or ever will be healthcare.







Dangerous abortion bans. K.

First trimester - which the majority of Americans support. Does she realize she's making a pro-life argument here? Hrm.

Also, Karine, you know what's REALLY dangerous? A freakin' abortion, for both the mother and of course, the human being who is put to death. C'mon.



 

herb749

Well-Known Member
If this woman had just gone out of state for an abortion instead of becoming the cause celebre for the abortion industry no one would know about this or care.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
If this woman had just gone out of state for an abortion instead of becoming the cause celebre for the abortion industry no one would know about this or care.


I'm an aggrieved Lefty I need to let the world know all about the situation.
 

stgislander

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I'm not a fan of abortion, but the Texas SC ruling is absolutely ridiculous.

Republicans can't help shooting themselves in the foot.
 

herb749

Well-Known Member
I'm not a fan of abortion, but the Texas SC ruling is absolutely ridiculous.

Republicans can't help shooting themselves in the foot.


Its their law so you follow or change it. Didn't people in Ohio just pass a law where you kill a full term baby.? The stoners voting for a pot law pulled the yes on this too.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Reproductive rights group urges Ohio prosecutor to drop criminal charge against woman who miscarried



Watts miscarried at home Sept. 22, days after a doctor told her that her fetus had a heartbeat but was nonviable. She twice visited Mercy Health-St. Joseph’s Hospital in Warren and twice left before receiving care. Her attorney said she was left waiting for lengthy periods and felt anxious and judged.

A nurse called police when Watts returned that Friday, no longer pregnant and bleeding. “She says her baby’s in her backyard in a bucket,” the woman told a dispatcher. Police arrived at her home, where they found the toilet clogged and the 22-week-old fetus wedged in the pipes.

A city prosecutor told a municipal judge that Watts was wrong when she tried unsuccessfully to plunge the toilet, scooped the overflow into a bucket, set it outside by the trash and callously “went on (with) her day.”


Her attorney, Traci Timko, argued Watts is being “demonized for something that goes on every day.”

An autopsy found “no recent injuries” to the fetus, which had died in utero.

The statute under which Watts is charged prohibits treating “a human corpse” in a way that would “outrage” reasonable family or community sensibilities. A violation is a fifth-degree felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $2,500 fine.
 
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